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ENGEL family Freudental South Russia now Ukraine

ENGEL family Freudental South Russia now Ukraine

Rene (View posts)
Posted: 4 Jul 2004 7:02PM GMT
Classification: Query
looking for more info on my ancestors from Freudental for 4 or more generations. If you have any connections with this surname or village, please contact me.

Re: ENGEL family Freudental South Russia now Ukraine

G.E. (View posts)
Posted: 14 Jan 2005 3:25PM GMT
Classification: Query
Were your relatives Germans, who lived in souther part of Russia by the Black sea? Then they could be a part of a German colonies out there.

Re: ENGEL family Freudental South Russia now Ukraine

G.E. (View posts)
Posted: 14 Jan 2005 3:58PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Fridental
There should be place Freydental, or Fridental south of city of Sevastopol in Krimea. Fridental was created in 1805, as one of three German colonies in that region.

Re: ENGEL family Freudental South Russia now Ukraine

G.E. (View posts)
Posted: 14 Jan 2005 4:26PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Fridental/ Kurortne
Nowdays Fridental is called Kurortnoye, or Kurortne. ttp://travel.kyiv.org/crimea/map/crmap_l2_h5.htm You can see it on this map, where the green geometric line is on a left. Town Kurortne belongs to Sudak district.

There are German clubs in Krimea, their newspaper Hoffnung ( Hope), charches, sunday schools, radio and TV programs, faculty in Univercity.
Coloinies, neighbouring Fridental were Neyzats( now Krasnogorskoe), and Rozental ( now Aromatnoye of Belogorsk District).

Re: ENGEL family Freudental South Russia now Ukraine

Rene (View posts)
Posted: 22 Jan 2005 6:40PM GMT
Classification: Query
Yes they were Lutheran Germans.

Re: ENGEL family Freudental South Russia now Ukraine

Rene' (View posts)
Posted: 22 Jan 2005 6:43PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: ENGEL, TRICK, TRIK, TRUECK, TRUCK
Yes, their is a couple spelling variations for Freudental - Alt Freudental, Freydental, Freudenthal...

I have done extensive research on the village and my family, but I'm trying to find out what happened to my great grandmother's siblings after 1914 when she came to America. Several of them were left behind.

Re: ENGEL family Freudental South Russia now Ukraine

G.E. (View posts)
Posted: 22 Jan 2005 9:06PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Engel, Trik
You have to place on this web site an exect place where your ancestor's town Fridental was located. There were many of them across Russia. Surnames could have changed over time, but in relation to location people might respond faster, also knowing location, they will try to recall their ancestors' names, ask questions and such.
Here are former locations of towns Fridental:
1. Dagestan Autonomous Republic-Freydental ( Freydenfeld, Ostrahovka, Ostrohovka) 500 (1926)
2. Kalmik Autonomous Republic-Fridental, Western Ulus - 49 (1926)
3. Crimea Autonomous Republic-
Fridental, Okrech, Ichkin District ( Feodosia District - 273/223___
Fridental ( Khan Tokus, Kantakuzi) Zuysk District (Simferopol Dstrict) 369/320
4. Volga Germans Autonomous Republic-
Fridental. Gmelinskiy canton( Pallasovskiy canton) - 137/129
Fridental - two villages in Zelmanskiy canton. (old name for district)
Fridental - the outskirts of village, Erenbahskiy canton ( Kamenskiy canton) 66/66

This list shows old soviet names for districts, before 1941, many have changed since, but this information is useful during research.

Re: ENGEL family Freudental South Russia now Ukraine

G.E. (View posts)
Posted: 22 Jan 2005 9:20PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Engel
Here is what I found on Russian site:
"Engel Yakov Ivanovich, of German nationality, born 1920, in village Grafskoye, Fedorovskiy District, Rostov Oblast. He was arrested by military on 04-22-1943 under Rusian law. He got 6 years of jail and also got the loss of his rights for 5 years".
That would meen that his father's name was Ivan.
Could he be those siblings child?

Re: ENGEL family Freudental South Russia now Ukraine

G.E. (View posts)
Posted: 22 Jan 2005 9:46PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Engel
Engel Andrey Kasparovich, German, resident of village Gnadendorf ( Nikolayevka), Krasnoturansk District,( KK Republic) with brothers Karl and Yakov were subjected to repression in 1937-38.

Engel Anton Antonovich with brother Pavel, Germans, in 1941 were sent with mother from town Engels of Autonomous Republic .....( words are shortened, I can't figure out)......in KK. Since 1942 they live in Bahta, Turuhansk District KK.

Engel Dorophea Konradovna, women, German, born 6-10 1897 in Krasniy Yar, Saratov Oblast. Was in excile since 1947 until 7-20-1955 in Stariy Turuhansk, Turuhansk District, KK with her daughter Engel Maria Fedorovna. Were freed in 1956.

Engel Ekaterina Yakovlevna, German woman, born 04-07-1920 in Krasniy Yar, Saratov Oblast. Was in exile since 08-02-1942 in Baiha, Kostinskiy Selsovet, Turuhansk District, KK, worked in colhoz "Krasniy Ribak" ( Red Fisher".

Re: ENGEL family Freudental South Russia now Ukraine

Posted: 4 Dec 2011 6:51AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi ,
My grandfather was from Freudental too. His name is Dick Ivan(Johann). I am looking for any info on my ancestors from Freudental village, South Russia now Ukraine(Dick, Pfaff, Oster, Neumuller, Zehmaister, Enzy
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