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Nannestad Norway

gale hansen (View posts)
Posted: 27 Oct 2002 7:29PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Brotne
I 'm looking for more information onmy greatgreat grandparents.They were Lars and Bertha Brotne and they came from Nannestad. Norway and came to America in the 1800s and homesteaded around Morris, Minnesota. My great grandmother was Ellen Brotne. She married my great grandfather Martin Hanse at Morris, Mn. I was wonndering if there were any more Brotnes at Nannestad? Would love to hear from them. Gale Hansen from South Dakota

Re: Nannestad Norway

PR (View posts)
Posted: 28 Oct 2002 5:46PM GMT
Classification: Query
Nannestad is a district in the Akershus area of Norway, a long way from the city of Bergen.

Re: Nannestad Norway

Posted: 29 Oct 2002 3:34AM GMT
Classification: Query
Morris Minnesota is in Stevens county. You can write to their historical society and see what information they might have, for starters. Scroll down to Stevens County on this webpage to find the contact information.


http://www.mnhs.org/preserve/mho/chsclo.html

There is one Brotne that is listed on the Minnesota Death index as having died in Stevens county. You might want to send for his $8 death certificate, because there might be some information that is applicable to your search.

http://people.mnhs.org/dci/Search.cfm

under surname, type Brotne.
His name was Hans and he died in 1941.

This is the Bergen Norway query page, and as PR said, perhaps you would have better luck connecting back to Norway if you posted your query at the Akershus fylke page
but you really must include more specific timelines for someone to help you search more effectively. The 1800's is just too general. Do you have any birthdates? or even estimates? Emigration or homestead dates?
The reasons that dates are important is that there might have been a few Lars Brotne's since Brotne is most likely a farm or location name, more like an address, not a family surname as we know it now. Also, the online records are searchable, but much more easily if you can narrow down the years to search in.
Here's the Akershus fylke page
http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=l...

It seems like your ancestor Ellen had a sister named Anna Dorthea Brotne, who has a descendant that has posted some of her genealogy on the internet.
HEre's the page
http://members.truepath.com/theJESUSpage/TheHjelleJar/Geneal...

Here's what it says

Lars H BROTNE was born on 4/1/1827 in Nannestad, Norway. He died on 5/4/1887 in Morris, Minnesota. Lars married Bertha LARSON.

Bertha LARSON was born on 3/20/1834. She died on 10/27/1894. Bertha married Lars H BROTNE.


It looks like Lars's mother came to the USA too.
Gunhild was born on 7/17/1805 in Nannestad, Norway. She died on 4/15/1882 in Morris, Minnesota.

She had the following children:

M i Lars H BROTNE

Here's what it says about Anna Dorthea Brotne
Anna Dorthea BROTNE was born on 2/2/1870 in Nannestad, Norway. She died on 10/8/1908 in Stevens County, MN. Anna married Julius HAWKINSON in 10/1888.

So if you Ellen and Anna were sisters, was Ellen also born in Nannestad?
What year?
She should be in the parish records.

You could try getting the parish records on microfilm from your local LDS (Latter Day Saints/Mormon) church research center. They have research assistants that can help you arrange this.

You could also try contacting a lookups volunteer who has the farm and family history books for Nannestad, called Bygdeboks. Brotne Brotnov Brotno is farm number 77 in the books.
Go to this page, and in the top paragraph for Akershus, you will see Nannstad, and initials after that. Click on the initials to read who has the books.
http://members.tdn.com/dagwood/lookups.html

Here is another page for lookups volunteers, and a guy named Tore in Norway who sounds like a promising genealogy help for Nannestad.
http://www.rootsweb.com/~wgnorway/lookups.html#Akershus

Another page to find lookups volunteers for Nannestad is this one in Norway.
http://www.slektsbiblioteket.com/pages/eng/kilder.asp

Scroll down the page to the bottom box, type in Nannestad and click search. It will give you two results of Norwegians who have the bygdeboks for Nannestad.

Here is a farm in Nannestad in 1865 that bears a closer inspection, especially if you contact a lookups volunteer with the farm and family history books. I really think this might be your family!

http://draug.rhd.isv.uit.no/ftsoek/ftsoek.asp?kommando=boste...

Census year: 1865
Municipality: Nannestad
Municipality number: 0238
Name of domicile: Brotnov
Number of persons in this domicile: 6.
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Name Family status Marital status Occupation Birth year Birth place Ethnicity
Ole Olsen Husfader g Gaardb. Selveier 1811 Gjerdrums Prgj.
Gunil Gudbrandsdatter hans Kone g 1805 Nannestad Prgj.
Berte Olsdatter deres Datter Kone g 1834 Nannestad Prgj.
Lars Hansen Logerende g Jordarbeider 1828 Nannestad Prgj.
Hans Jakob Laresen deres Søn, Lars Hansens og Berte Olsdatter ug 1861 Nannestad Prgj.
Elen Marie Larsdatter deres Datter ug 1865 Nannestad Prgj.

The mother-in-law Gunild ended up in MInnesota, according to the guy who had posted his genealogy. Lars H. Brotne could be this Lars Hansen (son of Hans) married to the daughter of this farm Berte Olsdatter. The son Hans Jakob Larsen could be the death certificate in Minnesota Hans Brotne in Stevens county. And of course born in 1865, the last entry is their daughter Elen Marie Larsdatter from Brotnov.

(Spelling changes and Americanizations occured all the time.)

I think that this tells about the farm in 1886, after the family had left of course - it was a farm and farm owner tax census in Norway
http://www.rhd.uit.no/matrikkelsoek/matrikkelsoek.asp?komman...

Fylke: Akershus (like a "state" in Norway)
Kommune: Nannestad (similar to a county)
Sogn: Holter (local parish church)
GÃ¥rdsnummer: 77 (main farm number, which is how the books are usually organized.)
Gammelt matrikkelnr: 78 (old numbering system)
Navn på gård: Brotno (Name of the main farm)
Merknad: Udtales Brotnu; alm. skr. Brotnov. (note: Pronounced Brotnu, also written Brotnov.)
Antall bruk registrert på matrikkelgården: 6. (Total subfarms (called bruk in Norwegian) registered at this main farm - 6.

Then it shows the number of the subfarm, it's name, and the owner, plus the amount of tax they pay.
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Bruksnr Løpenr Bruksnavn Brukers navn Skyld i mark og øre Daler-Ort-Skilling
1 125a Brotno Karl Jensen Grani 1.6 0.2.16
2 125b Brotno Tore Larsen Sundby 0.22 0.0.14
3 126 Brotno Nils Larsen Haugerud 1.28 0.3.6
4 127a Brotno Lars Haakensen 0.37 0.0.23
5 127b, 128a Brotno Karen Olsdatter Kjærstad 1.9 0.2.18
6 127c, 128b Brotno Ole Olsen Kjærstad 1.9 0.2.18

From the digging I did on the internet, you might find people who came from that farm, but are still in Norwa today, using the spelling Brotnov for their last name. They may or may not be related to you. The bygdebok could better find your relatives.

By the tax census of 1950, the main farm of Brotno was split into 9 subfarms.
http://www.dokpro.uio.no/cgi-bin/stad/matr50?task=s&fnr=...

Here is another census record on a different archive showing the family in 1865.
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbas...

Good luck with your search,
Taryn

Re: Nannestad Norway

Posted: 29 Oct 2002 12:47PM GMT
Classification: Query
I think that the US guy that had his genealogy posted had some gaps in his research, but it was helpful to find some information from him. I think Berthe's father was Ole Olsen Brotno(v), so her patronym was Olsen, not Larsen. Gunild was more likely Berthe's mother, not Lars's, from what the 1865 census indicates.

http://draug.rhd.isv.uit.no/ftsoek/ftsoek.asp?kommando=boste...

Census year: 1865
Municipality: Nannestad
Municipality number: 0238
Name of domicile: Brotnov
Number of persons in this domicile: 6.
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Name Family status Marital status Occupation Birth year Birth place Ethnicity
Ole Olsen Husfader g Gaardb. Selveier 1811 Gjerdrums Prgj.
(Ole Olsen, house's father, married, farmer, owns the farm, born in 1811 in Gjerdrums parish)
Gunil Gudbrandsdatter hans Kone g 1805 Nannestad Prgj.
(Gunil Gudbrandsdatter, his wife, married, born 1805 in Nannestad parish)
Berte Olsdatter deres Datter Kone g 1834 Nannestad Prgj.
(Berte Olsdatter, their daughter, a wife, married, born 1834 in Nannestad parish)
Lars Hansen Logerende g Jordarbeider 1828 Nannestad Prgj.
(Lars Hansen, lodger, married, farm worker, born 1828 in Nannestad parish)
Hans Jakob Laresen deres Søn, Lars Hansens og Berte Olsdatter ug 1861 Nannestad Prgj.
(Hans Jakob Laresen, their son, Lars Hansen's and Berte Olsdatter's, unmarried, born 1861 in Nannestad)
Elen Marie Larsdatter deres Datter ug 1865 Nannestad Prgj.
(Elen Marie Larsdatter, their daughter, unmarried, born 1865 in Nannestad)

So the Minnesota death index has the death certificate for Hans Brotne, and I think that their son Hans born in 1861 might be the person with the 1941 death certificate. Check that out with Stevens County, and also send for it for $8.

I'm looking for them on the emigration out of Oslo and also on the census for 1880 for Minnesota.
I just don't seem to find them, not even an Elen or Ellen with any last name. She should be 15 by 1880 census. Could they be in South Dakota already, or still in Norway? I guess Stevens county would have the answer to that too.

When people left a parish in Norway, they had to "sign out" basically, with the parish minister. There should be some record of that in the Nannestad parish records.
Good luck,
Taryn

Re: Nannestad Norway

gale hansen (View posts)
Posted: 31 Oct 2002 5:30PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: brotne
thank you Taryn with all the information you sent. I had so little and its coming together now . I went this week to Mn. and found alot of information in the graveyard of a small church.Thank you so much, Gale
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