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Sander/Sanders 10 year brick wall

Sander/Sanders 10 year brick wall

Posted: 23 Aug 2012 12:00AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Sander/Sanders
I have twins Richard and Rudolph Sander born in New York 6 Oct 1881, They had 2 sisters Flora and Augusta(I have almost nothing on them). I have Rudolphs death certif(attached) and Richards birth certif(attached). These documents indicate their parents as Henry or Heinrich and Marie Naecish(and another spelling). My problem is I havent been able to find any info on the parents (place of death, Immigration, burial) I've been looking for so long its time to ask for help help help. Thank you in advance for your efforts
Mr. Kelly Sanders
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Re: Sander/Sanders 10 year brick wall

Posted: 23 Aug 2012 8:49AM GMT
Classification: Query
Do you know when Henry Sander died? If not, I see from the birth certificate of his son, Richard, that Henry Sander was a tailor.

In the Manhattan City directories:
1889; Sander Henry, tailor, h. 94 First av,
1890; Sander Henry, tailor, h. 42 Av D
1891; Sander, H'y, tailor, h. 42 Av D.
Henry Sander the tailor is not listed after that, there IS a "Sander Mary, wid. of H'y" in the directories at various addresses starting in 1892.

In the NY City death index there is:
Heinrich Sander, 48 y, died Oct 9 1890, cert # 35316, Manhattan

His age of 48 years gives him a birth year of about 1842 which matches exactly with the birth year that can be calculated from his age of 39 years given on his son's 1881 birth cert. The death date of Oct 1890 may have been late enough in the year for him to be included in the 1891 city directory.

It might be worth your while to send for that death certificate.

Re: Sander/Sanders 10 year brick wall

Posted: 23 Aug 2012 1:11PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi,
If you check Castle Garden arrivals

http://www.castlegarden.org/

There was a Heinrich SANDER, age 34 tailor
Maria SANDER 28 and Richard 9mths all arrived on 8 July 1876 aboard the " Oder" from Bremen. All born Germany.

If it is the right family, then probably child Richard died before the twins were born.
I am not having much luck finding them in the 1880 census.

Good luck,
Helen

Re: Sander/Sanders 10 year brick wall

Posted: 23 Aug 2012 1:48PM GMT
Classification: Query

Re: Sander/Sanders 10 year brick wall

Posted: 23 Aug 2012 2:57PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi again,
Having found Mary/Maria in the 1905 census, with Flora 24 and Rudolf 23

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-159385-42852-96?c...

it says she has been in the US 30 years which fits with the earlier passenger list data so I am more confident that they are the right people. According to this census she was a citizen so perhaps look for her naturalization papers.

Re: Sander/Sanders 10 year brick wall

Posted: 29 Sep 2012 3:37PM GMT
Classification: Query
I'd like to thank you very much for the info. I just received the Death Certificate and it reveals a great deal of good info and the 42 Ave D fits with the Death cert.

Thanks very much
Kelly

Re: Sander/Sanders 10 year brick wall

Posted: 29 Sep 2012 4:28PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thanks for this info
My thoughts exactly

Re: Sander/Sanders 10 year brick wall

Posted: 29 Sep 2012 4:30PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thanks, Somehow I'd not seen the 1905 census of them

Thanks again
I got Heinrich's death certif so I'm making a little progress
and I've just ordered cemetery info also
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