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Matej Votava of Radkovice -- Two marriages

Matej Votava of Radkovice -- Two marriages

Posted: 13 Aug 2012 3:53PM GMT
Classification: Query
Matej Votava of Radkovice, son of Frantisek (Franz) was married twice. I am not sure I am reading the birth records of his children correctly, because in each marriage a daughter named Frantiska was born. The births are only 3 years apart, both lived, and marriage records are found for both.

This is the Matej whose father's name was listed as "Knap" in another post. Birth record, previously transcribed:
http://actapublica.eu/matriky/brno/prohlizec/6695/?strana=29

All records, House 8.

Births of children -- cannot read mother's name; village possibly Lipnik:
30 Nov 1826 Marianna
http://actapublica.eu/matriky/brno/prohlizec/6695/?strana=59
19 Sep 1829 Frantiska
http://actapublica.eu/matriky/brno/prohlizec/6695/?strana=62

17 Jun 1831 Death of first wife (Theresia?)
http://actapublica.eu/matriky/brno/prohlizec/6695/?strana=98

26 Aug 1831 Marriage record 2:
Marie Nemeskal, from Przispach, Příštpo (Pristpo)
http://actapublica.eu/matriky/brno/prohlizec/6431/?strana=16

Births of children:
25 May 1832 Frantiska (is this name correct?)
http://actapublica.eu/matriky/brno/prohlizec/6695/?strana=67
21 Nov 1834 Katharina
http://actapublica.eu/matriky/brno/prohlizec/6695/?strana=71
1 Nov 1836 Caecilia (Signatura 10817)
http://actapublica.eu/matriky/brno/prohlizec/6696/?strana=23

13 Jun 1848 Marriage record of first Frantiska, age 18 (second record on left -- direct ancestor):
http://actapublica.eu/matriky/brno/prohlizec/6696/?strana=7
(We have found the birth records for 10 children, the first in 1850.)

1857 Marriage record of second Frantiska, age 25 (third record on left):
http://actapublica.eu/matriky/brno/prohlizec/6696/?strana=11

There are events here that really make me wonder if I have the right records. Please correct any inaccuracies.

Thank you.
Mary Levesque

Re: Matej Votava of Radkovice -- Two marriages

Posted: 14 Aug 2012 7:23AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 14 Aug 2012 9:45AM GMT
30 Nov 1826/ Mariana/ Matthäus Wotawa (Matěj Votava), Halblahner zu Ratkowitz/ Theresia (Terezie) gebohrene Wenzel Schwarz, Häusler zu Bojanowitz (Bojanovice)/ Wenzl Padielek, Halblahner zu Littowan, Barbara dessen Eheweib.

19 Sep 1829/ Francisca/ Matthäus Wotawa (Matěj Votava), Halblahner zu Ratkowitz/ Theresia gebohrene Wenzel Schwarz, Häusler zu Bojanowitz (Bojanovice)/ Paul Futschik, Ganzlahner zu Ratkowitz, Mariana dessen Eheweib.

17 Jan 1831/ Theresia, Eheweib des Mathäus Wotawa, Halblahner zu Ratkowitz/ Abzehrung (consumption).

26 April 1831/ Matthäus Wotawa (Matěj Votava), Halblahner zu Ratkowitz Nro 8, ehelicher Sohn des Franz Wottawa, Ausgedingers dort und dessen Gattin Mariana geborene Hloch/ Margareth (Markéta), eheliche Tochter des Joseph Nemeschkal (Josef Nemeškal), Halblahners in Prispach (Příštpo) und dessen Gattin Susanna geborene Stuchlik, im mutterlichen Hause in diensten/ Franz Matauschek, Halblahner von da, Franz Schumpela, Halblahner von Ratkowitz.

25 May 1832/ Franziska/ Matthäus Wotawa, Halblahner zu Ratkowitz/ Margaretha gebohren Joseph Nemeschkal, Halblahner in Przisbach/ Georg Nemeschkal, Dienstknecht in Przisbach, Katharina dessen Schwester, Dienstmagd in Przisbach.

21 Nov 1834/ Katharina/ Matthäus Wotawa, Halblahner zu Ratkowitz/ Margaretha gebohren Joseph Nemeschkal, Halblahner in Przisbach/ Georg Nemeschkal, Dienstknecht in Przisbach, Katharina dessen Schwester, Dienstmagd in Przisbach.

1 Nov 1836/ Cäcilia (Cecilie)/ Matthäus Wotawa, Halblahner zu Ratkowitz/ Margaretha gebohren Joseph Nemeschkal, Halblahner in Przisbach/ Mathias Juraczek, Schafmeister in Ratkowitz, Josepha, dessen Eheweib.

13 June 1848/ 4/ Wenzl Zaufal (Václav Coufal), Halblahner zu Ratkowitz, Sohn des Mathias Zaufal, Ganzlahner in Udersch (Udeřice) und der Rosalia, gebohrene Franz Sedlaczek Halblahner in Budischkowitz, dessen Eheweib/ Franziska, Tochter des Mathäus Wottawa Ausgedingler in Ratkowitz und der Theresia gebohrene Franz Schwarz Häusler in Bojanowitz, dessen Eheweib/ Mathias Prochaska, Ganzlahner in Ratkowitz, Pelan Jakob, Ganzlahner in Lochschitz.

29 Sep 1857/ 74/ Joseph Lawinger, Häusler in Strzelitz (Střelice), Sohn des Christian Lawinger Halblahners in Paulitz und dessen Eheweib Petronilla, gebohrene Anton Strnad, Halblahner in Paulitz (Pavlice)/ Franziska, Tochter des Mathäus Wottawa, Halblahnerausgedingler in Ratkowitz und dessen Eheweib Margaretha gebohrene Joseph Nemeschkal, Halblahner in Przidbach/ Wenzl Zaufal, Halblahner in Ratkowitz, Anton Wottawa, Ganzlahner in Ratkowitz.

Re: Matej Votava of Radkovice -- Two marriages

Posted: 20 Oct 2012 6:38PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thank you, Kamil. It has taken me a couple of months to get back to this and sort through things. It looks like I confused Jan and Jun, Apr and Aug. For one of the pathen (sponsors), I thought it was Franz, but you transcribed it as Georg, and that looks right. It seems like the other sponsor was his sister, Katharina (Nemeschkal), so I will be looking for them as siblings of Matheus Votava.

Can we look at Katharina's record again, for the pathen - sponsors? (4th record on left)
http://actapublica.eu/matriky/brno/prohlizec/6695/?strana=71

And is the text at the bottom of this marriage record meaningful to genealogy? (2nd record from the top left.)
http://actapublica.eu/matriky/brno/prohlizec/6696/?strana=7

Thanks.

Re: Matej Votava of Radkovice -- Two marriages

Posted: 21 Oct 2012 3:12PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Mary. I’m sorry, I had confused it copying preceding record. In Katerina’s birth record as witnesses are listed Johann Wetasl and Katharina his wife. The surname Wetasl is undoubtably misspelled. Correct spelling is Johann Weytasa (Jan Vejtasa) and Katharina (Kateřina née Nemeškal), who got married on February 10 1834.
The text at the bottom of the marriage record is an accordance of the spouse's fathers with the marriage of the underage spouses.

Re: Matej Votava of Radkovice -- Two marriages

Posted: 21 Oct 2012 4:00PM GMT
Classification: Query
As usual, you give me another new piece of data. (The other marriage.) Thank you so much.

Yes, Frantiska was 18, and Vaclav was young, too. The first baby was born nearly two years after the marriage. They had eleven children in Moravia, and one born in the US in 1878. Vaclav died in an accident in 1888. Frantiska died about 1898, I believe.
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