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1850 Waite family in Morehouse Parish DISAPPEAR(?)

1850 Waite family in Morehouse Parish DISAPPEAR(?)

Posted: 18 May 2012 9:42PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Waite Wait Waites Waits Weight Wayt Bonham Smith Hemphill Robison Sproles Haddox Stubblefield Hill
15 Aug 1850 US Federal Census - Ward 9, Morehouse, Louisiana
Family Number: 93
Harrison Waite 58-SC [abt 1792]
Sarah Waite 51-SC [abt 1799]
Leonard N Waite 30-SC [abt 1820]
John H Waite 23-AL [abt 1827]
James N Waite 17-AL [abt 1833]
Isham Franklin Waite 13-AL [abt 1837]
Elizabeth Amanda Waite 19-AL [abt 1831]
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What happened to them after 1850?

Below, I have tracked "a" Harrison Waite whom I believe to be the same man with the same family. I have done acrobatics with SEARCHES on each of the family members listed on the 1850 Census above --- to no avail. I am not familiar with Louisiana genealogical resources other than what is online. It seems very odd to me that the entire family seems to have disappeared after the 1850 Census.

Any tidbits ???

BTW, I have put my comments in brackets for each of the cut&pasted record transcription abstracts in this post.
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1830 US Federal Census - Wilcox, Alabama

Name: Harrison Waites
Free White Persons - Males - 5 thru 9: 1 [b 1819-1825] John(?)
Free White Persons - Males - 10 thru 14: 1 [b 1814-1820] Leonard?
Free White Persons - Males - 30 thru 39: 1 [b 1791-1800] Harrison(?)
Free White Persons - Males - 60 thru 69: 1 [b 1761-1770] [The Patriarch?]
Free White Persons - Females - Under 5: 2 [b 1826-1830] E.A. (?) + Who?
Free White Persons - Females - 20 thru 29: 2 [b 1801-1810] Sarah(?) + Who?
Slaves - Females - 10 thru 23: 1 [b 1807-1820]
Free White Persons - Under 20: 4 [b 1810-1830]
Free White Persons - 20 thru 49: 3 [b 1781-1810]
Total Free White Persons: 8
Total Slaves: 1
Total - All Persons (Free White, Slaves, Free Colored): 9
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p 49 "Records of Wilcox County Alabama" by Marilyn Davis Barefield
ISBN=0-89308-636-3:
"Page 167. LW&T of SIMON SMITH BONHAM of Wilcox Co. To his wife ELIZABETH AMANDA BONHAM as many negroes as will amount in valuation to the sum of those given her by her father, and wheel carriage, carriage horses, household furniture, etc.; to daughter ANN SMITH a negro girl; to daughter ELIZABETH AMANDA a negro girl to son JAMES WARD a negro boy and my silver watch, to daughter ELIZA CAROLINE MARGARET 1 negro girl; to my dear mother sufficient money to pay for a negro ROLF, his wife DICEY and young child. His wife named as Executrix and brother MALACHI BONHAM and friend DAVID WARDLAW, Executors. Signed 1 July 1835. Wit: JONATHAN M. HILL, ANDREW C. HEMPHILL & HARRISON WAITE. proven 17 Aug. 1835."
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p 101 "Records of Wilcox County Alabama" by Marilyn Davis Barefield
ISBN=0-89308-636-3:
"Page 99. "William Stubblefield sold to Allen Robison for $600 a tract of land. Wit: Solomon Sproles, Barvil Haddox and HARRISON WAITE. 8/9/1825."
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1840 US Federal Census - Wilcox, Alabama
Name: Harrison Waite
[Sally asks, "Who are the EXTRA people?]

Free White Persons - Males - Under 5: 1 [1835-1840] Isham(?)
Free White Persons - Males - 5 thru 9: 2 [1831-1835] James N.(?)+Who?
Free White Persons - Males - 10 thru 14: 1 [1826-1830] John(?)
Free White Persons - Males - 15 thru 19: 1 [1821-1825] Who?
Free White Persons - Males - 20 thru 29: 1 [1811-1820] Leonard(?)
Free White Persons - Males - 30 thru 39: 1 [1801-1810] Who?
Free White Persons - Males - 40 thru 49: 1 [1791-1800] Harrison(?)
Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 14: 1 [1826-1830] Amanda Eliz.(?)
Free White Persons - Females - 15 thru 19: 1 [1821-1825] Who?
Free White Persons - Females - 40 thru 49: 2 [1791-1800] Sarah(?) & Who?
Slaves - Males - 10 thru 23: 1 [1817-1830]
Slaves - Females - 10 thru 23: 1 [1817-1830]
Persons Employed in Agriculture: 4
Free White Persons - Under 20: 7 [1820-1840]
Free White Persons - 20 thru 49: 5 [1791-1820]
Total Free White Persons: 12
Total Slaves: 2
Total All Persons - Free White, Free Colored, Slaves: 14
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Respectfully yours,
Sally Randol-Hardy

Re: 1850 Waite family in Morehouse Parish DISAPPEAR(?)

Posted: 19 May 2012 2:35AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Sally,

I can tell you that not all of the Waite family disappeared after the 1850 census. I found Sarah and two of the boys on the 1860 census for Morehouse Parish. The name was "Wait". Sarah, LN [1817 SC] and JN [1836 AL] were in the household of JG Harrison [1828 AL]. Also in the household were BA Harrison [1830 AL] and JF Harrison [1837 AL]. I found the three Harrison boys on the 1850 census with their parents. The Harrison family was in dwelling #89 while the Waite family was in dwelling #92. I feel sure that the two families were related. Harrison and Thomas were of about the same age. It may be that they were first cousins. Harrison's mother could have been a Harrison before her marriage, thus she would have given her son the name of Harrison. Just a thought...

JG was James G, BA was Benjamin A and JF was John F. I also found that the Thomas Harrison family was in Wilcox Co., AL. It is likely that both families moved from SC together and then moved from AL together.

I was able to find James G [JG] Harrison on the 1870 and 1880 census.

Harrison Waite likely died between 1850 and 1860. Perhaps some of the kids did, too.

The only Waite in SC on the 1820 census was a John Waite who was likely the father of Harrison.

The "extra people" you asked about were likely children who died before the next census, so you would not know their names.

Hope this info helps in your research.

Cheryl

Re: 1850 Waite family in Morehouse Parish DISAPPEAR(?)

Posted: 19 May 2012 6:51AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Wait Waite Waits Waites Armstrong Harrison
Cheryl,

I am delighted with what you have shared! They sure did elude me.

Your thoughts are right with mine on the Harrison being kin. My son's paternal line goes from:
Henry HARRISON Waite [1847 AL -1932 AL]
whose father was Francis Waite [b ~1807 SC & d 1860-1870 AL]

I am trying to find out who Francis Waite's parents were. Tracking Harrison's and Armstrong's may, indeed, lead me to the answer.

Thank you for your time and wonderful attention to detail.
Sally

Re: 1850 Waite family in Morehouse Parish DISAPPEAR(?)

Posted: 19 May 2012 8:17PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Sally,

You may already be aware of this, but on the FamilySearch site [Mormon] I found that a woman named Joan has an amazing genealogy on the Waite family which goes back to 1588 in England. She has a Francis Waite [bn SC] who married a Nancy Armstrong on 6/20/1837 in Wilcox Co., AL. However, she has ca 1795 as his year of birth. She shows him as being born in Abbeville Co., SC. You didn't mention the name of Francis' wife. Was it Nancy? Is it possible that the couple married in Wilcox Co. is the couple you are researching?

As I mentioned, the genealogy goes back quite a few generations in SC and in England.

Also, Francis' father is shown as John. Remember that there is a John Waite on the 1820 SC census.

Cheryl

Re: 1850 Waite family in Morehouse Parish DISAPPEAR(?)

Posted: 19 May 2012 9:50PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hey, again, Cheryl,

Yes, the info you found is likely the "Forced Fit" that has been afloat for about 14 years. [John & Susannah Freer Waight/Waite (?)]

Ty [my son's] line may tie back into the line cited . . . but not via the same Francis who was the LAST child of John and Susannah.

Per Bible records our Francis had younger siblings b AFTER the death of John Waite [d 1807] Unfortunately, trees are being copied with the "forced fit" so it's going to be tougher to track the "real deal"

I cannot imagine the marriages recorded in the Bible being for Francis and his "COUSINS" about the same age as he --- but that one consideration would make me re-visit the "forced fit"

I am trying to find the parents of:

Siblings(?) who ALL m in Wilcox Co., AL 1834-1841:
FRANCIS ~1807 SC
JESSE 20 Apr 1809 SC
RUSSELL ~ 1810 NC or GA
MARY [m John Stanford]
ELIZABETH [m Thomas B. Billingsham]

I am trying to put the evidence I have on my tree as the "DIG" progresses.

Thank you soooo much for your time,
Sally

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