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John Cockburn and antecedents

John Cockburn and antecedents

Posted: 7 Dec 2001 4:52AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 26 Jun 2002 12:16AM GMT
Surnames: Cockburn, Anderson
My grandfather, William Cockburn, was born in Rosebank, Lugar, Auchinlech Parish, Ayrshire,. on 22 April 1868. His mother and sibs emmigrated to Illinois circa 1885. I have no record of his father, John or mother Agnes Moffat Anderson, who were married in the parish church at Muirkirk on 30 April 1861. Does this ring a bell with anyone? William had four sisters, Agnes, Elizabeth, Martha and Nellie (Clara), and three brothers, Robert, David and John. Many of them ended up in Southern California. I have many family names but very few dates. Can you help?

Re: John Cockburn and antecedents

Posted: 17 Dec 2001 2:22AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 31 Oct 2006 3:11AM GMT
I am researching my Peden ancestors in Ayrshire and elsewhere .I find an Isabella Coburn/Cockburn born 1862 Maybole.Ayr. m David Peden in 1888 in Maybole.Ayrshire
She had the following siblings: William, James,Margaret,Mary Jane...all born Maybole.I can find no trace of the family in 1881 and wonder if the siblings and parents emigrated somewhere. Isabella and David emigrated to Canada and I have extensive records on the descendants.
Their parents were William Coburn and Elizabeth Murray both apparently born in Antrim North Ireland. Any chance of a connection?

Re: John Cockburn and antecedents

Sheena Tait (View posts)
Posted: 20 Dec 2001 4:24PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Templeton, McHutcheon, Young, Dunlop, McKinnon/McKenna
Hi Bud,
I sent the following through the AYRSHIRE-L mailing list but it hasn't appeared yet so I'll also post it here:

From the 1881 census National Index CD there are only 2 Isabel Coburns born in Ayrshire in 1862 +/- 5 years:

COBURN, Isabella Wife <1862> Ayr Ayr
COBURN, Isabella Dau <1864> Ayr Ayr

this second one looks like she could be yours:

Dwelling: Welltrees St
Census Place: Maybole, Ayr, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203605 GRO Ref Volume 605 EnumDist 6 Page 5
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
William COBURN M 55 M Down, Ireland
Rel: Head
Occ: Lab
Elizth. COBURN M 54 F Down, Ireland
Rel: Wife
Occ: Labs Wife
Mary COBURN U 19 F Maybole, Ayr, Scotland
Rel: Dau
Occ: Sprigger
Isabella COBURN U 17 M Maybole, Ayr, Scotland
Rel: Dau
Occ: Sprigger
William COBURN U 15 M Maybole, Ayr, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Shoemaker
William COBURN U 6 m M Maybole, Ayr, Scotland
Rel: G Son

All the best

Sheena



Re: John Cockburn and antecedents

William Coburn (View posts)
Posted: 23 Aug 2002 7:31AM GMT
Classification: Query
Dear Bud Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner. I forgot I had posted this inquiry. Your names don't connect with any of my known people. I'm glad Sheena pick up on your message. I'll try to do better in the future.

Re: John Cockburn and antecedents

Elizabeth Sheridan (View posts)
Posted: 30 Aug 2002 11:07PM GMT
Classification: Query
My Great Grandmother was Isabella Coburn, born 1862 and married David Peden in 1887 in Maybole. Your message gave me the first info. on Isabella's decendants. If you have any info. you can share on them I would really appreciate it.

Re: John Cockburn and antecedents

Posted: 31 Aug 2002 5:02AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 31 Oct 2006 3:11AM GMT
Surnames: Peden Coburn
Here is but a brief bit of data for you. What is your link to this data?.
I have much more regarding the Peden back to the early 1800,s. I am related from a marriage of Agnes Peden to one of my Hastings ancestors. I am anxious to hear from you. I have also sent this (hopefully)to your email address. If you would reply to my email address ..Bud

Re: John Cockburn and antecedents

Posted: 31 Aug 2002 5:02AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 31 Oct 2006 3:11AM GMT
Surnames: Peden Coburn
Here is but a brief bit of data for you. What is your link to this data?.
I have much more regarding the Peden back to the early 1800,s. I am related from a marriage of Agnes Peden to one of my Hastings ancestors. I am anxious to hear from you. I have also sent this (hopefully)to your email address. If you would reply to my email address ..Bud
Descendants of William Coburn

1 William Coburn
.. +Elizabeth Murray
... 2 William Coburn
... 2 James Coburn
....... +Isabella
... 2 William Coburn
... 2 Margaret Coburn
... 2 Mary Coburn
... 2 Isabella Coburn
....... +David Peden Father: David Peden Mother: Annie McClymont
......... 3 Elizabeth Peden
............. +Richard McKie
............... 4 James McKie
................... +Jessie Donaldson
..................... 5 Jill McKie
..................... 5 Jessica McKie
......................... +Robert Dalgleish
..................... 5 Marilee McKie
......................... +David Paterson
..................... 5 Elizabeth McKie
............... 4 Dick McKie
............... 4 Jean McKie
............... 4 Billy McKie
............... 4 Mary McKie
......... 3 David Peden
......... 3 Hugh Peden
............. +Christina Brough
............... 4 Marion Peden
............... 4 Edith Peden
................... +Ernie Cole
..................... 5 Gordon Cole
..................... 5 Glen Cole
............... 4 Ethel Peden
............... 4 Doris Peden
............... 4 Glen Peden
......... 3 William Peden
............. +Elsie Baldwin
............... 4 Alice Peden
................... +Douglas Purvis
..................... 5 David Purvis
......................... +Barbara Gardener
.......................... 6 Heather Purvis
.............................. +Gerald Weins
................................ 7 Kaitlin Weins
.......................... 6 Kimberly Purvis
................................ 7 Caitlin Purvis
..................... 5 James Purvis
..................... 5 Robert Purvis
......................... +Shirley
.......................... 6 Che Purvis
..................... 5 Sally Purvis
............... 4 Jean Peden
................... +Robert Murray Father: Edwrd Stephen Murray Mother: Caroline Anne Conanat
..................... 5 Robert Murray
......................... +Cathy McDonald
.......................... 6 Kate Murray
.......................... 6 Sean Murray
..................... 5 Richard Murray
......................... +Laurie Connor
.......................... 6 Robert Murray
.......................... 6 Lee-Anna Murray
..................... 5 John Murray
............... 4 David Peden
................... +Jean Barker
..................... 5 John Peden
......................... +Karen
.......................... 6 Kirstie Peden
.......................... 6 Alex Peden
..................... 5 Roderick Peden
......................... +Sara Yarwood
..................... 5 Laura Peden
......................... +Gregory Miskiewicz
.......................... 6 Andrew Miskiewicz
............... 4 William Peden
................... +Martha Hoenman
..................... 5 Ross Peden
......................... +Pam Graham
..................... 5 Lee Peden
............... 4 Allen Peden
................... +Irene Douglas
..................... 5 [1] Hugh Peden
......................... +Tia Hoope
.......................... 6 Rachel Plumpton
..................... *2nd Wife of [1] Hugh Peden:
......................... +Cindy Miller
..................... 5 Heather Peden
......................... +Jim Moffitt
.......................... 6 Thomas Moffitt
.......................... 6 Carrie Moffitt
.......................... 6 Kristen Moffitt
..................... 5 Audrey Peden
......................... +Guy Prince
.......................... 6 Laura Prince
.......................... 6 Dianna Prince
......... 3 John Peden
............. +Mary McConochie
............... 4 Evelyn Peden
................... +Bill Kernihan
............... 4 Audrey Peden
............... 4 James Peden
................... +Pat
..................... 5 Andy Peden
..................... 5 Thomas Peden
..................... 5 John Peden
..................... 5 Joanne Peden
..................... 5 Rosemary Peden
............... 4 Luona Peden
................... +Gary Nuckles
............... 4 Betty Peden
......... 3 James Peden
......... 3 Anne Peden
............. +James Connochie
............... 4 Jean Connochie
................... +Vaino Freeman
............... 4 Mary Connochie
............... 4 James Connochie
............... 4 Elizabeth Connochie
................... +Kerry Moore
..................... 5 James Moore
......................... +Karen Sejord
.......................... 6 Julie Moore
.......................... 6 Laurie Moore
..................... 5 Kerry Moore
............... 4 Robert Connochie
................... +Jane Morrison
..................... 5 Catherine Connochie
..................... 5 Andrew Connochie
......... 3 Fred Peden
............. +Eva Maxwell
............... 4 Fred Peden
................... +Mary Pelisky
..................... 5 David Peden
..................... 5 Janice Peden
......................... +Scott Coats
..................... 5 Darrell Peden
............... 4 Olive Peden
................... +William Hordeski
..................... 5 Gordon Hordeski
..................... 5 Richard Hordeski
..................... 5 Patti Hordeski
.......................... 6 Austin Hordeski
.......................... 6 Logan Hordeski
.......................... 6 SAtephanie Hordeski
..................... 5 Audrey Hordeski
......................... +Norman Fichter
.......................... 6 Christfer Fichter
.......................... 6 Jennifer Fichter
.......................... 6 Justin Fichter
..................... 5 Shelly Hordeski
..................... 5 Andrea Hordeski
......................... +Ron Deutscher
.......................... 6 Chloe Deutscher
.......................... 6 Madson Deutscher
..................... 5 Roxanne Hordeski
..................... 5 Mark Hordeski
............... 4 Donald Peden
................... +Jaqueline McIsaac
..................... 5 Kelly Peden
......................... +Tim Yule
.......................... 6 Darby Yule
.......................... 6 Erin Yule
..................... 5 Linda Peden
......................... +Wray McCelland
..................... 5 Douglas Peden
......................... +Christine
.......................... 6 Cory Peden
..................... 5 Sandra Peden
............... 4 Florence Peden
................... +John Jackson
..................... 5 Scott Jackson
......................... +Lois Gould
.......................... 6 Douglas Jackson
.......................... 6 Stephanie Jackson
..................... 5 Stuart Jackson
..................... 5 Shawn Jackson
......................... +Cora Boersma
.......................... 6 Neil Jackson
.......................... 6 Ian Jackson
..................... 5 Patricia Jackson
......................... +Garry Brown
.......................... 6 Amanda Brown
.......................... 6 April Brown
.......................... 6 Andrew Brown
..................... 5 John Jackson
..................... 5 Linda Jackson
......................... +Karl Bexte
.......................... 6 Taylor Bexte
.......................... 6 Melissa Bexte
......... 3 Thomas Peden
......... 3 George Peden
............. +Doris Kitson
............... 4 Robert Peden
............... 4 Bruce Peden
... 2 William Coburn

Re: John Cockburn and antecedents

Posted: 1 Sep 2002 7:12AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 31 Oct 2006 3:11AM GMT
Due to some email glitch I lost all the replies to this email. Would the several respondents please be kind enough to reply again. Sorry and thank you in advance. It would appear we all have found new kin. Exciting!!!!

Alexander Cockburn & Auchinlek c.1532, barony of Barry

Shirley (View posts)
Posted: 20 Aug 2003 9:49AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Cockburn, Adare, Adair
Am trying to pinpoint this Monastery or Abbey, perhaps renting land to Alexander Cockburn.
A witness was Alexander auchinlek,
another was James bane ADARE -
a family I am researching.
Any help identifying this area appreciated. Thankyou.

Alexander COCKBURN, Ayr (?), Scotland
James Bane ADARE, (Ayr ?), Scotland, c.AD1532

10 October, 1532.
Be it kend till all men be thir present letteres
Me alexander cokburne in the grange of balmerynache
To be bundyne and oblist And be the tenour of this present lettir bindis and oblissis me my aieris etc. .....
Onto.....
Robert abbote of balmerynache and conuent of the samyn ....
That forsamekle the said abbote and conuent hes set to me and my aieris in feuferme ... the thrid part of the grange of barry upper barrymure nethirbarrymure Cotwallis The Kirk halch Tua aikir of land in the cotside that Thomas stene occupijt ...
liand withtin the baronnry of barry ...
lik as is contenit in the chartter of fewferme....

Herfor I the said alexander bindis and oblissis me my aieris etc.....
to fulfill and keip all the poynttis in the said chartter

In speciall sall pay the few maile contenit in the said chartir at tua usuale termis ...vndir the pane of tuenty schillingis
And for the secund fyftene dais / fourty schillingis
An sua furtht Ilk fiftene dais fourty schillingis

Secundly I and my aieris etc ... sall resaue the abbote and conuent quhen thai sall cum to our houssis one our expensis anis or twiss in the yere for ane day or tua and treit thame honestlie as efferis

Alsua sall pas witht our cornis to the myllis of the said baronnry quhen thai haue watir to grynd the saidis cornis

And sall ride witht the said abbote and conuent to the kingis Weyris at all generall proclamatiounis one our awin expensis quhen I or thai beiss requirit tharto be the said abbote and conuent and thar successouris
And quhen I ame requirit to ride witht thame to thar honest erandis one thar expensis
And sall tak thar afald and plane part in all lafull honest causis
And sall neuir cum in the contrare of thame eftir the auth of fidelite maide be me to thame as is requirit be the law of the forme of fidelite of few Capitulo.... questione... de forma de Iuramento / Ego etc.
And sall ansuere to our thre hed courtis and to vthiris courtis quhen we ar warnyt be our officiaris to do seruice tharin siclik as vthiris tennenttis dois
And sall nocht truble molest perturbe na Inquiete the tennentis withtin our baronnry

And .... I the said alexander bindis and oblissis me my aieris etc. .....
vndir the paine of tene pundis usuale money for the first tyme gif I or my aieris failzeis of the premissis
The secund tyme tuenty pundis
The thrid tyme fourtty pundis
The ferd tyme ane hundretht puindis
The fift tyme tua hundretht pundis
The quhilk soume abone writin nocht beand pait ...
The saidis landis to be apprisit to ws for the samyne Bochtwithtstanding the poynttis abone writin.

In Witnes herof I the said Alexander hes seilit and subsciuit this obligacione...
At balmerynache the tene day of october
In the yere of god ane thousand fiwe hundrethe thretty and tua zeris
Befor thir Witnes
Androw kinlocht in luthre
Alexander auchinlek
Jame(s) stirk
henry boitour
Jok sanders
Paule stirk
Robert dune youngare
Jok thomsone baxstar
Dauid boitour
Jame(s) bane Adare
and schir Alexander Car notar witht vythiris diuersis.
(with the diocese ?).

Alexander Cowbron witht my hand twechand the peyn.

Alexander Cockburn, 1532, barony of Barry, Balmerino, Fife

Shirley (View posts)
Posted: 20 Aug 2003 10:19AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Cockburn, Adair
Thankyou, I have found it, evidently Balmerynache was
Balmerino in Fife.

Book by: Scottish History Society, Third Series
Published: Edinburgh, 1951
Series/Item: 26.43
Title: Miscellany of the Scottish History Society.
Notes: Vol. viii. (124)
Contents: Miscellaneous monastic charters. Edited by D. E. Easson. [Latin, with English abstracts. Scone, Balmerino and Inchcolm, 1230-1532.]


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