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WHere in Armagh were they from?

MAureen Toner (View posts)
Posted: 1 Sep 2005 3:50AM GMT





About ten years ago, my husband, Hugh F. Toner, Jr., was able to obtain from the Catholic Archdiocese of Armagh, baptismal certificates for his grandfather, Patrick Toner, and three of his four siblings B all baptized between 1855 and 1865 as well as baptismal certificates for Patrick=s father, Francis Toner, and four of his siblings, all baptized between 1814 and 1825.

AChildren of Patrick and Ann Dowling ( aome certificates read ADarling=) Toner@
John Toner 2/20/1814
Francis Toner 4/20/1815
Peter Toner 7/22/1817
Patrick Toner 3/2/1823
Joseph Toner 7/26/1825

Unfortunately, for almost ten years we have been trying to find out exactly WHERE in Armagh these ancestors lived, and we are hoping that you can help us. At that time perhaps the ACatholic Parish of Armagh@ covered most of the land of the present County Armagh,. Peter stayed in Ireland. John and Joseph Toner came to America probably in the 1840's or fifty. They may have stayed in the state of Pennsylvania awhile, but we have records of them filing a land patent in Nebraska Territory, USA in 1856. Patrick and Francis Toner and Francis= familycame to the United States in 1872 Bwe have seen a copy of the ship=a manifesto.

.If you have access to a Census of Northern Ireland or a Griffith=s Valuation for 1830, 1840 and perhaps 1850 all the names of that generation of Toner brothers should appear

John, Joseph, and Patrick Toner never married. We do not whether Peter, who stayed in Ireland ever married. either. Between 1850 and 1855, Francis married Ann Hughes who may have been from County Monaghan, possibly a part of that county later linked to Armagh. The Cathilic Archdiocese of Armgh in 1995 also sent us patismal records for four of Francis and Ann Hughes= Toner=s . five children

MaryAnn Toner 8/31/1856 Baptized in Tynan, Co Armagh
Patrick Toner 3/23/1859 Baptized in Parish of Armagh
Margaret Toner 8/26/1862 Baptized in Parish of Armagh
John Toner 9/5/1864 Baptized in Parish of Armagh
Another daughter, Elizabeth was born between MaryAnn and Patrick and came to
the US with her family in 1872 but no baptismal record was sent to us for her.

Francis Toner, his wife Ann Hughes Toner, children MaryAnn, Elizabath and Patrick as well as

Francis= brother, Patrick Toner, should appear on a census or Griffith=s Valuation for 1860 if there was one. All of these names plus the names of Francis Toner=s two youngest B John Toner and Elizabeth Toner should have appeared in a 1970 British census of Northern Ireland or Griffith=s Valuation


Patrick Toner, son of Francias and Ann Hughes Toner married Mary Ann Hughes in Omaha, Nebraska, USA in 1898. Mary Ann was born in St. Louis , Missouri to Peter and Ellen Doran Hughes. Peter and his two brothers married three Doran sisters

Peter Hughes married Ellen Doran born 1828 Where?
Owen Hughes married Brigid Doran born 1826 Where? Bessbrook? USA?
Bernard Hughes born1824 married Mary Doran born 1828 Omaha, NE. USA

.While we do not have baptismal certificates for either Peter or Ellen, we do have letters from my husband=s late aunt who visited the Hughes= old homestead in Armagh in the 1920's and as well as a letter sent in the 1970's from a woman living in Mullaghbawn, Newry the widow of the man who took my husband=s aunt and her cousin to a place she referred to as AAmmakane@ and place and she also mentions Bessbrook

The three Hughes borthers as well as the Doran sisterss and two of their siblings::
Michael Doran married Ellen McNulty Kileavy Parish (?)
Margaret Doran never married

should be on a census or Griffith=s for 1830, 1840 or 1850. Michael Ellen Mc Nulty Doran were still in Armagh until they came to Omaha, Nebraska in 1870. Michel and Ellen had five children
baptized in Armagh before they left Ireland.

We have been trying for about a decade to locate from where in Armagh these ancestors came. We hope very much that you can help us

Sincerely,

Hugh and Maureen Toner









About ten years ago, my husband, Hugh F. Toner, Jr., was able to obtain from the Catholic Archdiocese of Armagh, baptismal certificates for his grandfather, Patrick Toner, and three of his four siblings B all baptized between 1855 and 1865 as well as baptismal certificates for Patrick=s father, Francis Toner, and four of his siblings, all baptized between 1814 and 1825.

AChildren of Patrick and Ann Dowling ( aome certificates read ADarling=) Toner@
John Toner 2/20/1814
Francis Toner 4/20/1815
Peter Toner 7/22/1817
Patrick Toner 3/2/1823
Joseph Toner 7/26/1825

Unfortunately, for almost ten years we have been trying to find out exactly WHERE in Armagh these ancestors lived, and we are hoping that you can help us. At that time perhaps the ACatholic Parish of Armagh@ covered most of the land of the present County Armagh,. Peter stayed in Ireland. John and Joseph Toner came to America probably in the 1840's or fifty. They may have stayed in the state of Pennsylvania awhile, but we have records of them filing a land patent in Nebraska Territory, USA in 1856. Patrick and Francis Toner and Francis= familycame to the United States in 1872 Bwe have seen a copy of the ship=a manifesto.

.If you have access to a Census of Northern Ireland or a Griffith=s Valuation for 1830, 1840 and perhaps 1850 all the names of that generation of Toner brothers should appear

John, Joseph, and Patrick Toner never married. We do not whether Peter, who stayed in Ireland ever married. either. Between 1850 and 1855, Francis married Ann Hughes who may have been from County Monaghan, possibly a part of that county later linked to Armagh. The Cathilic Archdiocese of Armgh in 1995 also sent us patismal records for four of Francis and Ann Hughes= Toner=s . five children

MaryAnn Toner 8/31/1856 Baptized in Tynan, Co Armagh
Patrick Toner 3/23/1859 Baptized in Parish of Armagh
Margaret Toner 8/26/1862 Baptized in Parish of Armagh
John Toner 9/5/1864 Baptized in Parish of Armagh
Another daughter, Elizabeth was born between MaryAnn and Patrick and came to
the US with her family in 1872 but no baptismal record was sent to us for her.

Francis Toner, his wife Ann Hughes Toner, children MaryAnn, Elizabath and Patrick as well as

Francis= brother, Patrick Toner, should appear on a census or Griffith=s Valuation for 1860 if there was one. All of these names plus the names of Francis Toner=s two youngest B John Toner and Elizabeth Toner should have appeared in a 1970 British census of Northern Ireland or Griffith=s Valuation


Patrick Toner, son of Francias and Ann Hughes Toner married Mary Ann Hughes in Omaha, Nebraska, USA in 1898. Mary Ann was born in St. Louis , Missouri to Peter and Ellen Doran Hughes. Peter and his two brothers married three Doran sisters

Peter Hughes married Ellen Doran born 1828 Where?
Owen Hughes married Brigid Doran born 1826 Where? Bessbrook? USA?
Bernard Hughes born1824 married Mary Doran born 1828 Omaha, NE. USA

.While we do not have baptismal certificates for either Peter or Ellen, we do have letters from my husband=s late aunt who visited the Hughes= old homestead in Armagh in the 1920's and as well as a letter sent in the 1970's from a woman living in Mullaghbawn, Newry the widow of the man who took my husband=s aunt and her cousin to a place she referred to as AAmmakane@ and place and she also mentions Bessbrook

The three Hughes borthers as well as the Doran sisterss and two of their siblings::
Michael Doran married Ellen McNulty Kileavy Parish (?)
Margaret Doran never married

should be on a census or Griffith=s for 1830, 1840 or 1850. Michael Ellen Mc Nulty Doran were still in Armagh until they came to Omaha, Nebraska in 1870. Michel and Ellen had five children
baptized in Armagh before they left Ireland.

We have been trying for about a decade to locate from where in Armagh these ancestors came. We hope very much that you can help us

Sincerely,

Hugh and Maureen Toner


















About ten years ago, my husband, Hugh F. Toner, Jr., was able to obtain from the Catholic Archdiocese of Armagh, baptismal certificates for his grandfather, Patrick Toner, and three of his four siblings B all baptized between 1855 and 1865 as well as baptismal certificates for Patrick=s father, Francis Toner, and four of his siblings, all baptized between 1814 and 1825.

AChildren of Patrick and Ann Dowling ( aome certificates read ADarling=) Toner@
John Toner 2/20/1814
Francis Toner 4/20/1815
Peter Toner 7/22/1817
Patrick Toner 3/2/1823
Joseph Toner 7/26/1825

Unfortunately, for almost ten years we have been trying to find out exactly WHERE in Armagh these ancestors lived, and we are hoping that you can help us. At that time perhaps the ACatholic Parish of Armagh@ covered most of the land of the present County Armagh,. Peter stayed in Ireland. John and Joseph Toner came to America probably in the 1840's or fifty. They may have stayed in the state of Pennsylvania awhile, but we have records of them filing a land patent in Nebraska Territory, USA in 1856. Patrick and Francis Toner and Francis= familycame to the United States in 1872 Bwe have seen a copy of the ship=a manifesto.

.If you have access to a Census of Northern Ireland or a Griffith=s Valuation for 1830, 1840 and perhaps 1850 all the names of that generation of Toner brothers should appear

John, Joseph, and Patrick Toner never married. We do not whether Peter, who stayed in Ireland ever married. either. Between 1850 and 1855, Francis married Ann Hughes who may have been from County Monaghan, possibly a part of that county later linked to Armagh. The Cathilic Archdiocese of Armgh in 1995 also sent us patismal records for four of Francis and Ann Hughes= Toner=s . five children

MaryAnn Toner 8/31/1856 Baptized in Tynan, Co Armagh
Patrick Toner 3/23/1859 Baptized in Parish of Armagh
Margaret Toner 8/26/1862 Baptized in Parish of Armagh
John Toner 9/5/1864 Baptized in Parish of Armagh
Another daughter, Elizabeth was born between MaryAnn and Patrick and came to
the US with her family in 1872 but no baptismal record was sent to us for her.

Francis Toner, his wife Ann Hughes Toner, children MaryAnn, Elizabath and Patrick as well as

Francis= brother, Patrick Toner, should appear on a census or Griffith=s Valuation for 1860 if there was one. All of these names plus the names of Francis Toner=s two youngest B John Toner and Elizabeth Toner should have appeared in a 1970 British census of Northern Ireland or Griffith=s Valuation


Patrick Toner, son of Francias and Ann Hughes Toner married Mary Ann Hughes in Omaha, Nebraska, USA in 1898. Mary Ann was born in St. Louis , Missouri to Peter and Ellen Doran Hughes. Peter and his two brothers married three Doran sisters

Peter Hughes married Ellen Doran born 1828 Where?
Owen Hughes married Brigid Doran born 1826 Where? Bessbrook? USA?
Bernard Hughes born1824 married Mary Doran born 1828 Omaha, NE. USA

.While we do not have baptismal certificates for either Peter or Ellen, we do have letters from my husband=s late aunt who visited the Hughes= old homestead in Armagh in the 1920's and as well as a letter sent in the 1970's from a woman living in Mullaghbawn, Newry the widow of the man who took my husband=s aunt and her cousin to a place she referred to as AAmmakane@ and place and she also mentions Bessbrook

The three Hughes borthers as well as the Doran sisterss and two of their siblings::
Michael Doran married Ellen McNulty Kileavy Parish (?)
Margaret Doran never married

should be on a census or Griffith=s for 1830, 1840 or 1850. Michael Ellen Mc Nulty Doran were still in Armagh until they came to Omaha, Nebraska in 1870. Michel and Ellen had five children
baptized in Armagh before they left Ireland.

We have been trying for about a decade to locate from where in Armagh these ancestors came. We hope very much that you can help us

Sincerely,

Hugh and Maureen Toner













Re: WHere in Armagh were they from?

Eileen (View posts)
Posted: 2 Sep 2005 1:42AM GMT
Classification: Query
Peter Toner found in:

International Records: Index to Griffith's Valuation of Ireland, 1848-1864
County: Armagh Parish: Lisnadill
Location: Ballyards

International Records: Index to Griffith's Valuation of Ireland, 1848-1864
County: Armagh Parish: Keady
Location: Granemore

International Records: Index to Griffith's Valuation of Ireland, 1848-1864
County: Armagh Parish: Creggan
Location: Cloghoge

Francis Toner found in:

International Records: Index to Griffith's Valuation of Ireland, 1848-1864
County: Armagh Parish: Keady
Location: Lagan

International Records: Index to Griffith's Valuation of Ireland, 1848-1864
County: Armagh Parish: Armagh
Location: City of Armagh Charter School Lane

International Records: Index to Griffith's Valuation of Ireland, 1848-1864
County: Armagh Parish: Lisnadill
Location: Farranamucklagh

International Records: Index to Griffith's Valuation of Ireland, 1848-1864
County: Armagh Parish: Lisnadill
Location: Farranamucklagh

International Records: Index to Griffith's Valuation of Ireland, 1848-1864
County: Armagh Parish: Lisnadill
Location: Foley

Patrick, Sr. Toner found in:

International Records: Index to Griffith's Valuation of Ireland, 1848-1864
County: Armagh Parish: Lisnadill
Location: Corran

International Records: Index to Griffith's Valuation of Ireland, 1848-1864
County: Armagh Parish: Kilclooney
Location: Clady More

Patrick, Jr. Toner found in:

International Records: Index to Griffith's Valuation of Ireland, 1848-1864
County: Armagh Parish: Kilclooney
Location: Clady More

Re: WHere in Armagh were they from?

elizabeth (View posts)
Posted: 17 Oct 2005 2:47AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Loo, Quinn, Beattie, Farrell
Hi Maureen, I have a Patrick Toner married to Maria Loo in 1864 but no other details. My g grandfather Bernard Loo's first marriage in Derrynoose Parish, Keady had a witness called Mary Hughes. His daughter Mary Loo born 1870 in Tynan. Maybe some of that information will give you places to search. Elizabeth

Re: WHere in Armagh were they from?

Posted: 6 Dec 2006 2:36PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: McNulty.
I have only scannd your note but I can help. Ellen McNulty is my husband's Gt gt (gt) aunt and she was one of the McNulty family from Armekane off the Sturgan Road about 2 miles from the village of Camlough and 5 miles from Newry.

Ellen was one of four members of the family who emigrated and many ended up in Nebraska. Daniel was the eldest (and brother to Ellen) and as he had about 14 children they are spread around the US.

We visited with his Gt gt grandchilren Ralph McNulty and Phyllis Stevenson and his grandson Everett's widow(Elsye) in Cozad in 1996. They have been to visit us in Liverpool and Armagh.

Ellen's parents were Pter McNulty and Ros Quinn-there is a photo of her available somewhere.

My husband's grandmother was Ellen's niece Roseann but there are still McNultys living in Armakane (there are several spellings for this).

We spend quitem a bit of time in Armagh-if I can help let me know.

Best wishes Anne McCann

Re: WHere in Armagh were they from?

Posted: 4 Jan 2007 11:02PM GMT
Classification: Query
You may be able to help us. My great grandfather was Edward McNulty from Newry. Supposedly he was a school teacher in Newry, but as of lately we have been told he was a head master. Immigrated to Boston late 1800s, early 1900s with son Thomas J. and wife Kathrine.
Dates and information conflict. We have found a birth certificate for Edward, but the date conflicts with all other family information. This is the only information we have been able to get from Ireland. From Family history, we know Thomas was 7 years old when he came to the states, but we are unable to find birth certificate for him.
If anyone comes across information of a headmaster named Edward McNulty in their searches, could you please pass any information on. Also, would be willing to pay for research in Ireland. McNultyLandscaping@verizon.net
Thanks
Tom McNulty

Re: WHere in Armagh were they from?

Posted: 4 Jan 2007 11:07PM GMT
Classification: Query
Looking for information for Edward McNulty. Through family history we know that Edward was a teacher, possibly a head master in the Newry area. Lived in Newry before immigrating to Massachusetts late 1800s, early 1900s with 7 year old son, Thomas J., and Wife Kathrine to work in Qaury.
We have some more information, but dates do not match ages, etc. Have been to Newry, but we were short on time, and were searching the wrong McNulty Family. Edward and Kathrine's parish has been destroyed by fire.
If anyone finds information on an Edward McNulty who was a headmaster in the Newry area in the 1800s, could you please pass it along? McNultyLandscaping@verizon.net
Thanks, Tom McNulty

Re: WHere in Armagh were they from?

Posted: 11 May 2007 4:18PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Maureen,
I stumbled across your posting while looking for details of Armakane Co Armagh, where my ancestors are from.
The Ellen McNulty you refer to as marrying Michael Doran was my Gt Gt Aunt. Her parents, Peter McNulty and Rose Quinn were my Gt Gt Grandparents.
Can you help with connecting the Dorans to the Hughes and Toner families, and information on the 5 children baptized in Ireland.

Regards, Barry Moloney, Ottawa, Canada

Re: WHere in Armagh were they from?

Posted: 14 Oct 2011 2:29PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: toner
i hope you get this mesage fingers crossed
peter toner 22 may 1817 married catherine mcgill 1856 armagh
had o son owen toner b 1859 armagh,elizabeth 1868 armagh,sarah 1870 armagh.
owen was my greatgrandfather he moved to scotland and married catherine bell 1885 bathgate west lothian, they had peter b 1886 linlithgow, william 1887 linlithgow,catherine 1890 mary 1892,lizzie 1896 all born motherwell, if these toners are in your tree please message me thanks tina

Re: WHere in Armagh were they from? toner mcgill

Posted: 14 Oct 2011 2:59PM GMT
Classification: Query
There is a marriage between a Peter Toner and Catherine McGill in Ballymacnab RC parish in 1856. You'd have to go to the ifhf site and pay the 5 euro to see the details.

Re: WHere in Armagh were they from?

Posted: 16 Oct 2011 7:01PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello Barry, I've only just come across your posting, 5 years since you wrote it! I was updated because someone else had posted on the site!
I have heard of you from your cousin Gill. John (my husband ) and myself were with her last weekend. You have probably realised that I have the McCann Family site and I do update quite frequently. As more records become available from Ireland I've been able to add to it recently. Unfortunately the McNultys don't appear on the Freeholders lists from 1818- 1835. there are none after that becuase only land with a higher value was listed (probably linked to having the vote or something). John's family the Mccanns are down but noit the McNultys. You will find them on the Dublin records for the 1901 and 1911 census. They are on my tree.

I'm not sure how much access you have to my tree buit if you cannot open all of thew attachments let me have your email address and I'll list you as having full access.

Again sorry for the (very) late response but as I explained I have not checked that post for a long time. If we can help in any way please let us know. Best wishes Anne McCann
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