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Richard, Robert, George, Henry, Stephen, Benjamin Cole [Cowell]

Richard, Robert, George, Henry, Stephen, Benjamin Cole [Cowell]

Posted: 12 May 2003 9:36PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 15 Jul 2003 5:38PM GMT
Surnames: Cole[Cowell] Ager, Mynott, Greygoose, Dockerill and many more
Anyone reseaching these people from Shudy/Castle Camps, Cambridgeshire.Parents of above John Cole and Ann Webb.
Would love to share information on above family.

Re: Richard, Robert, George, Henry, Stephen, Benjamin Cole [Cowell]

Posted: 11 Nov 2009 3:57PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Cowell
Hi,

I am descended on my mother's side from Richard Cowell, son of John Cole and Ann Webb. My great grandmother was Fanny Cowell 1860-1934. Her father was William Cowell 1838-1902, son of Robert Cowell 1816-1886 son of aforementioned Richard Cowell 1785-1865. I'm happy to share any info I've got, but you may have it already as your post was 6 years ago!!

Re: Richard, Robert, George, Henry, Stephen, Benjamin Cole [Cowell]

Posted: 10 Oct 2012 9:56PM GMT
Classification: Query

Hi Simon

The following may make some sense of your posting below

Your post in case you have forgotten it, has been a while!
I am descended on my mother's side from Richard Cowell, son of John Cole and Ann Webb. My great grandmother was Fanny Cowell 1860-1934. Her father was William Cowell 1838-1902, son of Robert Cowell 1816-1886 son of aforementioned Richard Cowell 1785-1865. I'm happy to share any info I've got, but you may have it already as your post was 6 years
ago!!


Dear Marlene

I wonder if you can help

My great great grandfather Richard Cole was born in Castle Camps Cambridge in 1822 and to the best of my knowledge was buried in Linton Cambridge in 1882
He married Charlotte (surname unknown) who was also born in Castle Camps (1824 – 1890) also buried in Linton.
Their son George Cole (b1842) was born in Linton and is my great grandfather.
I cannot find any records going on before Richard Cole and if you could do any look-up to extend my knowledge of my family ancestry I would be very grateful.

With best wishes
John O’Connor
Dear Marlene

This is excellent information, thank you so much.

I need to study it a little to make sense of it all.

In the research I have already completed I am absolutely confident of everything in red below. I have verified this information by certificates obtained from the relevant registry offices.
The bit I am getting confused by, is the father of George Cole (1842-)

From the information you have sent me, the only name that fits is Richard Cowell which links with Charlotte

The dates for the marriage of Richard Cowell to Charlotte Carlton 09/09/1842 fit nicely with the date I have for the birth of George Cole (1842-)

But clearly there is a problem with the surnames I can’t quite figure out.

But having said that and googled that query, it seems that the surnames Cowell and Cole were used at some point interchangeably. For example I found the following on ancestry.au
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Re: Richard, Robert, George, Henry, Stephen, Benjamin Cole [Cowell]
simonhutchison (View posts)
Posted: 11 Nov 2009 3:57PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Cowell
Hi,

I am descended on my mother's side from Richard Cowell, son of John Cole and Ann Webb. My great grandmother was Fanny Cowell 1860-1934. Her father was William Cowell 1838-1902, son of Robert Cowell 1816-1886 son of aforementioned Richard Cowell 1785-1865. I'm happy to share any info I've got, but you may have it already as your post was 6 years ago!!

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So my next task is to bottom out that slight anomaly.

Your information has been absolutely invaluable. I would like to hope that I could perhaps ask for your assistance once I have made sense of what you have already sent me.
I have been down so many blind alleys, this is the first bit of light at the end of the tunnel in unravelling this complex conundrum.
Please do not expend any more of your precious time on any more searches until I can work through all this information.

Thanks Marlene once again

All the very best
John




..... 1 Richard Cole (1822 - 1882) b: Abt. 1822 in Castle Camps, Cambridge, d: 1882 in Linton, Cambridge

..... + Charlotte Unknown (1824 - 1890) b: Abt. 1824 in Castle Camps, Cambridge, d: 1890 in Linton, Cambridge

........... 2 George Cole (1842 - ) b: 1842 in Castle Camps, Cambridge

........... + Rebecca Unknown (1844 - ) b: Abt. 1844 in Linton, Cambridge

................. 3 Margaret Hannah Cole (1865 - ) b: Abt. 1865 in Linton, Cambridge

................. 3 Alice Cole (1867 - ) b: Abt. 1867 in Linton, Cambridge

................. 3 Harry Cole (1869 - ) b: Abt. 1869 in Linton, Cambridge

................. 3 Herbert Cole (1871 - ) b: Abt. 1871 in Linton, Cambridge

................. + Ada Florence Tyrrell (1871 - ) b: Abt. 1871 in Surrey, m: 1891 in Hackney registration district

....................... 4 Alfred George Cole (1892 - ) b: 1892 in Beckenham, Kent

....................... 4 Edith Ada Cole (1893 - ) b: 1893 in Beckenham, Kent

....................... 4 Florence Maud Cole (1894 - ) b: 1894 in Beckenham, Kent

....................... 4 Henry Otto Cole (1897 - ) b: 1897 in Beckenham, Kent

....................... 4 Herbert Harold Cole (1899 - ) b: 1899 in Beckenham, Kent






From: Marlene Williamson [mailto:m.williamson@paradise.net.nz]
Sent: 10 October 2012 20:30
To: 'John O'Connor'
Subject: RE: Cole family

Hello John
Heres a bit before I go to work! I will look for more tomorrow if you would like me to.

Richard COWELL of this parish, son of Richard married Charlotte CARLTON in Castle Camps on 9 Sep 1842. Both made their X mark. Charlotte Carlton bn 25 Feb 1824 and bp 28 Mar 1824 dau of William (of Camps Green, labourer) and Mary Ann.
Castle Camps Baptism 1822 Sep 22 Carlton Henry William Marianne born Oct 16 1821 CG lab
Castle Camps Baptism 1824 Mar 28 Carlton Charlotte William Mary Ann born Feb 25 1824 CG lab
Castle Camps Baptism 1829 Jul 12 Carlton James William Mary born Nov 12 1826 CG lab




Richard COWEL bp 18 Aug 1822 to Richard and Susan. Here are the rest of the family from the database:

Castle Camps Baptism 1806 May 11 Cole William Richard Susanna
Castle Camps Baptism 1811 Jul 21 Cole Mary Ann Richard Susanna
Castle Camps Baptism 1811 Jan 3 Cole John Richard Susanna
Castle Camps Baptism 1813 Apr 18 Cole Elizabeth Richard Susan born Dec 21 1812 CG lab
Castle Camps Baptism 1815 Apr 9 Cole Robert Richard Susanna born Oct 10 1814 CG lab
Castle Camps Baptism 1818 Jan 11 Cowel Charles Richard Susanna born Aug 2 1817 CG lab
Castle Camps Baptism 1820 Apr 2 Cowel Sarah Richard Susanna born Jan 27 1820 CG lab
Castle Camps Baptism 1822 Aug 18 Cowel Richard Richard Susan born Jan 11 1822 CG lab

Richard COLE married Susanna HARDY in Castle Camps 4 Nov 1805. He was if this parish and they both made their mark. There is no baptism for Susanna in my database.

Richard COLE bap Shudy Camps 16 Oct 1785 son of John and Ann, who were married in Castle Camps 7 Mar 1784. John COLE of Shudy Camps to Ann WEBB . Both signed with X
There are several John and Ann COLE families – here is the listing below for you to sort out….

Shudy Camps Baptism 1768 Apr 10 Cole William John Ann
Shudy Camps Burial 1770 Jul 29 Cole Ann John Ann
Shudy Camps Baptism 1773 Jan 31 Cole John John Ann Born:27 Jan 1773
Castle Camps Baptism 1777 Mar 9 Mascoll John John Ann
Castle Camps Baptism 1779 Mar 21 Cole Mary John Ann
Castle Camps Baptism 1781 Feb 11 Mascoll Sarah John Ann
Castle Camps Baptism 1782 Sep 1 Cowl Margaret John Ann
Castle Camps Baptism 1782 Sep 1 Mascoll William John Ann
Castle Camps Baptism 1784 Aug 8 Cowl Francsd John Ann
Shudy Camps Baptism 1785 Oct 16 Cole Richard John Ann
Castle Camps Baptism 1785 Nov 13 Cowl Ann John Ann
Shudy Camps Baptism 1790 Apr 4 Cole Robert John Ann
Bartlow Baptism 1791 July 24 Cowell John John Ann of the Hamlet
Castle Camps Baptism 1793 May 12 Cole Frances John Ann
Shudy Camps Baptism 1795 May 24 Cowell George John Ann
Shudy Camps Baptism 1797 Dec 17 Cowell Henry John Ann
Shudy Camps Baptism 1802 Jun 20 Cowell Stephen John Ann 7 yrs old
Shudy Camps Baptism 1803 Jul 24 Cole Benjamin John Ann

Cheers
Marlene
From: John O'Connor [mailto:jdo.oconnor@btinternet.com]
Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2012 8:03 a.m.
To: marlene@rd29.net
Subject: Cole family

Dear Marlene

I wonder if you can help

My great great grandfather Richard Cole was born in Castle Camps Cambridge in 1822 and to the best of my knowledge was buried in Linton Cambridge in 1882
He married Charlotte (surname unknown) who was also born in Castle Camps (1824 – 1890) also buried in Linton.
Their son George Cole (b1842) was born in Linton and is my great grandfather.
I cannot find any records going on before Richard Cole and if you could do any look-up to extend my knowledge of my family ancestry I would be very grateful.

With best wishes
John O’Connor

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