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Paul Loll in WWII: How did he die?

Paul Loll in WWII: How did he die?

Posted: 1 Feb 2013 12:30AM GMT
Classification: Query
My great grandfather was Paul Loll. I know he died during WWII. I have heard some murky things, not bad, just unverifiable. He was in the Navy. But before my grandmother died, his daughter, she told me that he worked on a border job. But that wouldn't make sense for Navy, would it? I have never really heard a definative as to how he died. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanx.
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Re: Paul Loll in WWII: How did he die?

Posted: 16 Feb 2013 12:47PM GMT
Classification: Query


What was his date of birth and where was he born?

Klaus

Re: Paul Loll in WWII: How did he die?

Posted: 16 Feb 2013 5:12PM GMT
Classification: Query
Klaus,

Unfortunately I do not know any of that information. I know he was born in Germany, but don't know what town. He married Elisabeth Walter in 1931.

Re: Paul Loll in WWII: How did he die?

Posted: 16 Feb 2013 5:38PM GMT
Classification: Query
His sleeve insignia looks like a petty officer with a ordnance articifer specialty (crossed cannons) above it. If he was a navy veteran, it's quite possible he could have been assigned to water police, river patrol or some other type of marine border units. He could have left the navy and taken a customs/border job also. Have you contacted the German War Graves Commission to see if they have any records?
http://www.volksbund.de/volksbund/volksbund-en.html

another option would be the WW2 military records section of the German State Archives-
http://www.bundesarchiv.de/index.html.en

Re: Paul Loll in WWII: How did he die?

Posted: 16 Feb 2013 6:25PM GMT
Classification: Query
I found information about a german navy man Paul Loll, rank Bootsmann (boatman) born October 30, 1902 in Nippoglense, district of city of Stolp in Pommern (Pomerania)which died/missing in the Baltic Sea (german: Ostsee) on the steamership "Wilhelm Gustloff" which was hit by a russian torpedo on January 30,1945, whith approx. 10.000 refugies on board.
Could this be your ancestor?
Information about the Wilhelm Gustloff see here: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Gustloff_%28Schiff%29

also available in english.

Klaus

Re: Paul Loll in WWII: How did he die?

Posted: 16 Feb 2013 7:22PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thank you for the information. I can't say for sure, but I think that would coincide with some things.

Kathy

Re: Paul Loll in WWII: How did he die?

Posted: 13 Mar 2013 6:24PM GMT
Classification: Query
In addition to the information provided by KlausWa I would suggest contacting the "Heimatkreis" for Stolp to see if they have any additional information.

http://www.stolp.de/arbeitskreis.html

German Navy records I believe survived the war relatively intact, so there should be some information available. You need to contact the Deutsche Dienstelle and submit a tracing request. Ignore the part about payment for now - they will send a response in about a year which should contain info about his service, at which time you can opt to order copies of the actual records.

http://www.dd-wast.de/frame_e.htm

In regards to "border" it may have something to do with this:

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine-Brigade_Ehrhardt

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grenzschutz_Ost

Incidentally, on my father's side we lost three family members on the Gustloff.

Re: Paul Loll in WWII: How did he die?

Posted: 13 Mar 2013 8:26PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Loll/Walter
Thank you Ken_Sch

I have since been researching things since I read the information from KlausWa. I am trying to figure things out first before I ask too many questions of people or try obtaining information. For the tracing request, do I choose the "private matters" option?

Kathy

Re: Paul Loll in WWII: How did he die?

Posted: 14 Mar 2013 10:26AM GMT
Classification: Query
Yes.
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