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Joseph Wagner Family --c. 1860-1922

Joseph Wagner Family --c. 1860-1922

Posted: 10 Apr 2000 12:00PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 4 Mar 2006 7:44PM GMT
Surnames: DIEDERICH, WAGNER, FRITZ, NEIS
Is there a WAGNER descendant, or anyone else, who can help me with a marriage record of Joseph WAGNER and ? DIDERICH, about 1865 in Fond du Lac County, probably in or near Mt. Calvary? This DIEDERICH family belonged to St. Paul Lutheran Church in the town of Forest, but the marriage could also have been at St. Nicholas or Holy Cross in Mt, Calvary. The obituary of Elizabeth DIEDERICH (d. August 2, 1922) lists a living sister, Mrs. Joseph WAGNER. I think this woman is my ggrandmother's sister, but I don't know her given name, or date of birth. The 1880 census of Marshfield Twp. lists my grandfather, Henry FRITZ and his brother, George, as working as farm laborers in the home of Joseph WAGNER. Elizabeth DIEDERICH died in the home of Mrs. John NEIS( Margaret FRITZ) her niece (sister to Henry and George, above). I'd appreciate any leads.

Virginia

Joseph Wagner

Christopher L. Wagner (View posts)
Posted: 2 Oct 2000 12:00PM GMT
Classification: Query
The Joseph Wagner you are looking for was my greatgrandfather. He was a very early settler of the State of Wisconsin and served in the State's Territorial Legislature and ,for many years, as a State Senator. The woman you refer to, my great grandmother ( I believe her name was Katherine) was his second wife. Family lore says that she was his housekeeper, who he married following the death of his first wife. She was many yeare his junior. My grandfather (Albert Wagner) was the youngest, and only surviving male child, of this marriage (there were three or four daughters). Several others children died in early childhood. Family lore also holds that my great grandfather became a Lutheran when he married Katherine Diederich. Therefore I believe they would have been married in St. Paul's Church, which continues as the Lutheran church serving that area of Wisconsin to this day.
Both Katherine and Joseph are buried in Forest Home Cemetary which is located immediately North of State Hwy. 23 between the villages of Mt. Calvary and St. Cloud Wi.
It is very possible that Messrs. Fritz and Neis worked for him in that he was a major landholder. Early maps of Wisconsin show him owning more than 10,000 acres of land, some of which my grandfather inherited and continued to farm with hired help through about 1929.
I am fortunate to have many of Joseph Wagner's original papers including the 1929 ( I think) newspaper clipping announcing Katherine Wagner's death but would need to do some digging. I am really interested in this man and his life and am glad to have bumped into you,almost by accident.
Hope to hear from you soon.

Joseph Wagner

Posted: 3 Oct 2000 12:00PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 4 Mar 2006 7:44PM GMT
Surnames: Wagner, Diederich
Christopher,

This is exciting. I'm so glad to have heard from you. I'm sure it is the right family. Other than the obit that lists Catherine (Mrs. Joseph Wagner) as the niece of my great aunt, Margaret Fritz Neis, I've found the bio of your grandfather Albert and also of Joseph in the History of Fond du Lac (published 1880)Albert's mother is listed as Catherine Dietrich Wagner. Write to me at rvpeter@win.bright.net and we can share information. I have the Diederich's back to their village in Bavaria.

Virginia

Re: Joseph Wagner

Mary (View posts)
Posted: 17 Dec 2001 1:05PM GMT
Classification: Query
Also a Wagner searcher. Have some info on Wagners of Marshfield. Very early marriage of a Joseph.
Mary

Re: Joseph Wagner Family --c. 1860-1922

Susan (View posts)
Posted: 23 Dec 2001 2:25PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: OLLINGER, FISCHER, GENGLER, MICHELS, LINGER, LENGER, HAUSMANN, THELEN, HETEBRUEG, OLLINGER, FISCHER, GENGLER
Virginia,

DIDERICH:
MICHELS, LINGER, LENGER, HAUSMANN, THELEN, HETEBRUEG, OLLINGER, FISCHER, GENGLER

I have just found out that some of my collateral lines are related to the GENGLER's. There were three GENGLER's who
signed my great grandfather's (Dr. Joseph LINGER, November 10, 1871-October 05, 1941) funeral book back in 1941.

Dr. Joseph LINGER's father was Dr. Christian LINGER--who had changed his name from LENGER to LINGER at some
point in time. There was a sister of Christian LINGER/LENGER, Margaret LENGER, who married a DIDERICH.

Christian LENGER/LINGER married Eva MICHELS, the daughter of George MICHELS and Anna Marie THELEN. On
checking naturalization records for George Michels I found a record for a George Michels born in the year 1795. He was 45
at the time of his arrival in the Port of Baltimore on August 16, 1840. In checking the ship record, I did not see a wife or
children listed..so am wondering if they arrived at a later date on another ship--or if George MICHELS married after arriving in
the US.

Vol 14, page 36
George Michels
Port Washington, Wisconsin
Date and Port of Arrival: August 1840--Baltimore
Date of Declaration: Dec 25, 1844--Circuit Court
Date of Naturalization: October 27, 1854--Circuit Court
Date and place of birth: Prussia--aged 45 years
Witness: John Hovenkost

By 1850:
1850 Washington County Census page 216:
George Michels aged 41 born in Prussia
Mary Michels aged 37 born in Prussia
Elisa Michels aged 16 born in Prussia
Ann Michels aged 7 born in Prussia
Avah Michels aged 3 born in Prussia **
John Hafman aged 45 born in Prussia (laborer)

**Eva, future wife of Christian LENGER/LINGER (September 09, 1847-December 13, 1919)

I have been unable to find a Naturalization for Christian LENGER or LINGER. (1838-November 03, 1910)

Yesterday, I was able to get up to the Washington County Courthouse in West Bend, Wisconsin. It appears that the Gengler's
may have settled in that County in or around the Town of Trenton.

Other related names may include: MICHELS, LINGER, LENGER, HAUSMANN, THELEN, HETEBRUEG, OLLINGER,
FISCHER and DIDERICH.

I am also very interested in any families who settled/lived in an area of Milwaukee County known as GRANVILLE and
ENGELSBERG. Some attended a a mission church (St. Martin's) on what is now Appleton Ave..the church is no longer in
existence, but the cemetery is still there. I am told that the church records are in the keeping of St. Agnes Church in
Butler...originally it was a mission extension of St. Anthony's in Fussville, Waukesha County.

I would be interested in exchanging information with you, however, I will be relocating shortly after Christmas (Dec 26th
2001-January 7th 2002). My address after that time will be:
snokes@tscnet.com

snail mail:
Susan
27532 State Hwy 3 NE
Poulsbo, WA 98370

I look forward to hearing from you (or anyone other researchers possibly related to this line) who may read this in the future.



Re: Joseph Wagner

Susan (View posts)
Posted: 23 Dec 2001 2:27PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: OLLINGER, FISCHER, GENGLER, MICHELS, LINGER, LENGER, HAUSMANN, THELEN, HETEBRUEG, DIDERICH
Christopher,

Perhaps you could shed some light on my Diderich line???


DIDERICH:
MICHELS, LINGER, LENGER, HAUSMANN, THELEN, HETEBRUEG, OLLINGER, FISCHER, GENGLER

I have just found out that some of my collateral lines are related to the GENGLER's. There were three GENGLER's who
signed my great grandfather's (Dr. Joseph LINGER, November 10, 1871-October 05, 1941) funeral book back in 1941.

Dr. Joseph LINGER's father was Dr. Christian LINGER--who had changed his name from LENGER to LINGER at some
point in time. There was a sister of Christian LINGER/LENGER, Margaret LENGER, who married a DIDERICH.

Christian LENGER/LINGER married Eva MICHELS, the daughter of George MICHELS and Anna Marie THELEN. On
checking naturalization records for George Michels I found a record for a George Michels born in the year 1795. He was 45
at the time of his arrival in the Port of Baltimore on August 16, 1840. In checking the ship record, I did not see a wife or
children listed..so am wondering if they arrived at a later date on another ship--or if George MICHELS married after arriving in
the US.

Vol 14, page 36
George Michels
Port Washington, Wisconsin
Date and Port of Arrival: August 1840--Baltimore
Date of Declaration: Dec 25, 1844--Circuit Court
Date of Naturalization: October 27, 1854--Circuit Court
Date and place of birth: Prussia--aged 45 years
Witness: John Hovenkost

By 1850:
1850 Washington County Census page 216:
George Michels aged 41 born in Prussia
Mary Michels aged 37 born in Prussia
Elisa Michels aged 16 born in Prussia
Ann Michels aged 7 born in Prussia
Avah Michels aged 3 born in Prussia **
John Hafman aged 45 born in Prussia (laborer)

**Eva, future wife of Christian LENGER/LINGER (September 09, 1847-December 13, 1919)

I have been unable to find a Naturalization for Christian LENGER or LINGER. (1838-November 03, 1910)

Yesterday, I was able to get up to the Washington County Courthouse in West Bend, Wisconsin. It appears that the Gengler's
may have settled in that County in or around the Town of Trenton.

Other related names may include: MICHELS, LINGER, LENGER, HAUSMANN, THELEN, HETEBRUEG, OLLINGER,
FISCHER and DIDERICH.

I am also very interested in any families who settled/lived in an area of Milwaukee County known as GRANVILLE and
ENGELSBERG. Some attended a a mission church (St. Martin's) on what is now Appleton Ave..the church is no longer in
existence, but the cemetery is still there. I am told that the church records are in the keeping of St. Agnes Church in
Butler...originally it was a mission extension of St. Anthony's in Fussville, Waukesha County.

I would be interested in exchanging information with you, however, I will be relocating shortly after Christmas (Dec 26th
2001-January 7th 2002). My address after that time will be:
snokes@tscnet.com

snail mail:
Susan
27532 State Hwy 3 NE
Poulsbo, WA 98370

I look forward to hearing from you (or anyone other researchers possibly related to this line) who may read this in the future.


Re: Joseph Wagner

Susan (View posts)
Posted: 23 Dec 2001 2:31PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: DIDERICH, MICHELS, LINGER, LENGER, HAUSMANN, THELEN, HETEBRUEG, OLLINGER, FISCHER, GENGLER
Hi, I was wondering if you could shed some light on any of these lines???

DIDERICH:
MICHELS, LINGER, LENGER, HAUSMANN, THELEN, HETEBRUEG, OLLINGER, FISCHER, GENGLER

I have just found out that some of my collateral lines are related to the GENGLER's. There were three GENGLER's who
signed my great grandfather's (Dr. Joseph LINGER, November 10, 1871-October 05, 1941) funeral book back in 1941.

Dr. Joseph LINGER's father was Dr. Christian LINGER--who had changed his name from LENGER to LINGER at some
point in time. There was a sister of Christian LINGER/LENGER, Margaret LENGER, who married a DIDERICH.

Christian LENGER/LINGER married Eva MICHELS, the daughter of George MICHELS and Anna Marie THELEN. On
checking naturalization records for George Michels I found a record for a George Michels born in the year 1795. He was 45
at the time of his arrival in the Port of Baltimore on August 16, 1840. In checking the ship record, I did not see a wife or
children listed..so am wondering if they arrived at a later date on another ship--or if George MICHELS married after arriving in
the US.

Vol 14, page 36
George Michels
Port Washington, Wisconsin
Date and Port of Arrival: August 1840--Baltimore
Date of Declaration: Dec 25, 1844--Circuit Court
Date of Naturalization: October 27, 1854--Circuit Court
Date and place of birth: Prussia--aged 45 years
Witness: John Hovenkost

By 1850:
1850 Washington County Census page 216:
George Michels aged 41 born in Prussia
Mary Michels aged 37 born in Prussia
Elisa Michels aged 16 born in Prussia
Ann Michels aged 7 born in Prussia
Avah Michels aged 3 born in Prussia **
John Hafman aged 45 born in Prussia (laborer)

**Eva, future wife of Christian LENGER/LINGER (September 09, 1847-December 13, 1919)

I have been unable to find a Naturalization for Christian LENGER or LINGER. (1838-November 03, 1910)

Yesterday, I was able to get up to the Washington County Courthouse in West Bend, Wisconsin. It appears that the Gengler's
may have settled in that County in or around the Town of Trenton.

Other related names may include: MICHELS, LINGER, LENGER, HAUSMANN, THELEN, HETEBRUEG, OLLINGER,
FISCHER and DIDERICH.

I am also very interested in any families who settled/lived in an area of Milwaukee County known as GRANVILLE and
ENGELSBERG. Some attended a a mission church (St. Martin's) on what is now Appleton Ave..the church is no longer in
existence, but the cemetery is still there. I am told that the church records are in the keeping of St. Agnes Church in
Butler...originally it was a mission extension of St. Anthony's in Fussville, Waukesha County.

I would be interested in exchanging information with you, however, I will be relocating shortly after Christmas (Dec 26th
2001-January 7th 2002). My address after that time will be:
snokes@tscnet.com

snail mail:
Susan
27532 State Hwy 3 NE
Poulsbo, WA 98370

I look forward to hearing from you (or anyone other researchers possibly related to this line) who may read this in the future.




Re: Joseph Wagner

Virginia Peter (View posts)
Posted: 26 Dec 2001 6:47PM GMT
Classification: Query
Mary,

I've found the Joseph Wagner I was looking for. He was born October 19, 1809 in Würtemburg, Germany, and married Catherine Diedrich on October 23, 1862 in Friendship Twp. Fond du Lac Co. He also had a son. Joseph Jr., from his first marriage to Mary Dubois. Joseph Jr. married Alida Updike. They had a son, Joseph, born about 1862. I have no other information on this last one, except his siblings names: Marion, George, and Addie.

Does any of this sound familiar to you?

Virginia

Re: Joseph Wagner Family --c. 1860-1922

Virginia Peter (View posts)
Posted: 26 Dec 2001 6:53PM GMT
Classification: Query
Susan,

I've checked my files and none of your names come up. Sorry. I'm still working on the Diedrichs. Some of them left Fond du Lac County between 1860-70, but I don't know where they went.

Virginia

Re: Joseph Wagner Family --c. 1860-1922

Susan (View posts)
Posted: 27 Dec 2001 9:54AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Diedrich
Virginia,

I am very interested in the information you may have on the
Diedrichs. Please attatch a copy and I may be able to help both of us..depending on the other surnames involved--I may find a relationship...I am leaving today to travel to Washington State, which is my home..an "Adventure in Moving"

What church did your Diedrichs attend and in what town/village?

My husband's e-mail address is:
greggoryj@onebox.com
Please forward the attatchment (GEDCOM or however you have your files/data saved)and I will get back to you as soon as I can.

My e-mail will be:
snokes@tscnet.com
after January 7th

Please stay in touch as I am certain there is a connection!
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