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Proof of Smith Heritage

Proof of Smith Heritage

Posted: 27 Dec 2012 6:25PM GMT
Classification: Query
I need help with proving my Smith heritage for DAR membership. I descend from Jeremiah Smith (DAR Patriot) and Jemima Holley-Smith through their son Tobias Smith who married Rebecca Narcissus Bankston about 1805 in GA. Tobias and Rebecca moved from GA along with Tobias' mother, Jemima Holley Smith, Rebecca's parents, John and Henrietta Coates Bankston. and others about 1811/1812. They are shown in Census Records in Washington Parish, LA in 1820 and 1830. Tobias served in the War of 1812 from Washington Parish, LA. Tobias, Rebecca and Family, moved from Washington/Tangipahoa Parish, LA to Smith Co., MS after 1834, before 1840. Tobias died in Smith Co., MS in April, 1860.

I need proof that Tobias Smith is a son of Jerimiah Smith and Jemimah Holley-Smith. Can anyone help?


My gg-grandmother, Leah Smith, b. abt. 1825/26 LA, is Tobias and Rebecca Smith's youngest daughter. Leah married William Whitmel Craft, about 1842/43, most likely in Smith Co., MS. The Crafts appear as a family with 4 children in the 1850 MS Census in Attala Co., MS. The Craft family moved to Rapides/Vernon Parish, LA and appear there in the 1860 LA Census.

My other roadblock is in proving that Leah is Tobias and Rebecca Bankston Smith's daughter. Can anyone help?
Thanks,
Rebecca Lunceford

Re: Proof of Smith Heritage

Posted: 23 Jan 2013 11:45PM GMT
Classification: Query
I am a descendant of Jeremiah Smith and Tobias Smith. I just received the results of my DNA which shows that I am descended from Jeremiah Smith. I requested a kit in December and just got the results. I suggested that you request a kit from Ancestry. com and do the same.

Re: Proof of Smith Heritage

Posted: 24 Jan 2013 5:51AM GMT
Classification: Query
DAR will not accept DNA results as proof, unfortunately. You need to have written evidence such as Birth, Marriage, and Death records.

Re: Proof of Smith Heritage

Posted: 24 Jan 2013 6:47AM GMT
Classification: Query
I looked on the DAR web page and found a Jeremiah Smith married to Jemima (No Surname listed) Born Abt. 1755 died Abt. 1800. State of Service is Listed as South Carolina. State of Death Listed as Greenville District South Carolina. Could this be your Patriot? If so, I would try to look for a Probate record listed for him in South Carolina. Your best bet would be to find a Will listing heirs to the Estate. You might try finding one for his wife Jemima too, by looking in Louisiana and Mississippi. There are three people who are listed as descendants of this Patriot, through a son also named Jeremiah. The generations listing for each person shows a common thread with your info. They all show the families as being from South Carolina-to Georgia-to Mississippi. You can Purchase a record copy of a previously verified application on the DAR website. It can be used as supporting documentation to help link to a patriot. It costs ten dollars. I don't know if this helps at all, I wish you luck.

Re: Proof of Smith Heritage

Posted: 24 Jan 2013 4:02PM GMT
Classification: Query
Unfortunately there don't seem to be any probate records for
either Jeremiah, Sr. or Jemima. I appreciate your input, your researach at the DAR site and efforts to help.
Rebecca

Re: Proof of Smith Heritage

Posted: 7 Feb 2014 2:38PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Smith
Sondra,
I am part of a DNA reseach project at FTDNA. Can you upload your data to the free site gedmatch.com so that we can run comparisons with your cousins who have tested at 23andMe please? There are a few of us now who have tested, but as ancestry doesn't offer any tools whatsoever we test with companies that do and would love to see if we can pinpoint any shared Smith DNA. Also, the person who made the comment about DAR accepting DNA as proof, that is partly true--they will only accept Y DNA testing specifically, as proof and I located someone a few months back who is a male Smith descendant to Y test for our line from Tobias Smith. I am, as of yesterday, the contact in the Smith Y DNA project for our Smith group. We are haplogroup R1a1a. My cousin who tested for our line has only 9 matches at 37 markers which is excellent! Furthermore 7 of the 9 are Smiths. I'm happy to share our progress and work with anyone interested in the line of Tobias Smith and Rebecca Bankston. Just drop me an email, let me know you are replying to this thread and fill me in on how you connect please. I have a thread going already and can add you to it and we have a DNA research group on facebook as well to keep everyone posted on the latest updates and who is testing etc..
Cuzzin Lisa (trackingyourroots (at) gmail.com

Re: Proof of Smith Heritage

Posted: 20 Jan 2015 9:24PM GMT
Classification: Query
I feel for you as I went through the same problem. The would not accept DNA results. However, on another note: This Jeremiah Smith and Jemimah Holley line has several DNA matches including my Thomas Smith line in Cherokee/Lumpkin/Dawson Co Ga.
Our line is through Rev War Patriot Charles Smith and Elizabeth Gillespy of Laurens Co Sc to Cherokee Co Ga. So far we are the only line who has participated through this Charles Smith's line.My Charles' son John had a son Jeremiah and so did another DNA match Jeremiah Smith 1772 SC from Laurens Co SC who married Mary Tidmore. They settled in Cherokee Co Ala. I have been in touch with them. Another match to your Tobias was John Smith (1765) and Mary Sarah Myrick from Warren Co NC to Maury Co TN.. Several in the Haplogroup: R1a1a1 have matched us but have not sent their lineage. So we all probably came from one old ancestor who died in SC since our DNA matches and we all migrated out of SC.. I am leaning toward Old Charles b abt 1735 who lived in Laurens SC.The John Smith line had someone to participate in the Sons of the American Revolution and you might try that route. Much Luck. I will see what I can find in the War of 1812 Pension files.Josie

Re: Proof of Smith Heritage

Posted: 23 Jan 2015 4:01PM GMT
Classification: Query
Josie,
Thank you. I appreciate the information and your input into the situation. I haven't given up, but I haven't made any progress either.
I have a copy of Rebecca Bankston Smith's Pension Application for Tobias Smith's service from Washington Parish, LA in the War of 1812. It provides their marriage info but I found nothing about extended family. Rebecca

Re: Proof of Smith Heritage

Posted: 29 Jan 2015 12:35AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi cousin Rebecca,
I'm still working on this line and the DNA connection as well. I've started looking at other records too, so we may yet find something. Did you join the War of 1812 on Tobias yet? I did that two years ago. I've been spending a LOT of time at Clayton the last month. My cousin got me copies of all of Tobias records including bounty land grants when she was up in DC two months ago..so that is some additional resources we can now dig into fort more info...
Hope all is well with you. Call me sometime and let's get together, I'd still like to do that.
Cuzzin Lisa in Houston
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