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Butler DNA

Posted: 23 May 2013 12:51PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Butler
Does anyone with an association to the Butlers of Wexford have a Y DNA test which we could compare?

Re: Butler DNA

Posted: 24 May 2013 12:58PM GMT
Classification: Query
There ae 96 Butler's in the current online telephone book.
I would look for a Butler family webpage. I have no luck with getting anyone in Ireland to participate in a DNA project. One thing we found interesting, persons with the same name, living in the same community both in Ireland and Canada did not match.

Annette Code

Re: Butler DNA

Posted: 24 May 2013 1:48PM GMT
Classification: Query
Annette

I am looking for a specific line of the Butlers one with a I2B1C (I2a2a2a) haplogroup this is currently a rare group in Ireland due to the P78 polymorphism and the low number of DNA tests carried out. I already have a match with one person from this line but I have now traced this line down to Wexford in the 1873s in a place called Maudlintown.

In all the DNA forums I belong to there is only one other Butler who has the I2B1C (I2a2a2a) haplogroup and their exact genealogy is still unresearched


The surname can often be misleading as surnames are, in DNA terms a recent occurance, when people wanted a surname they often took the name of their Lord or their occupation.

DNA some times offers more qustions than it does answers


Regards

Peter

Re: Butler DNA

Posted: 25 May 2013 2:36AM GMT
Classification: Query
Didn't Henry the VII (1491-1547) come up with the idea of surnames. US Slaves went by the name of their owners not usually normal in Ireland or England. Unless it is Garrison son of Gary or Henry the Miller becoming Henry Miller.

The Parish of Maudlintown was in the Poor Law Union of Wexford, whereas the Townland's of Maulintown were in the Parish of Kilcavan in the Poor Law Union of New Ross.

Of the Butler's in Wexford 39 are listed for Wexford
and 14 in the New Ross area.

You could try writing to the Editor of a local paper or even the Irish Times regarding the subject and your search for DNA. I sent 25 letters to individuals in the telephone book for the area I was looking for and received no answers.
The cost of at least $99.00 can be a detriment and I've offered to pay and still get no results.

Annette

Re: Butler DNA

Posted: 27 May 2013 6:05PM GMT
Classification: Query
Annette

People are often disappointed with DNA as they expect the DNA results to provide all the answers as you know it often only provides more questions. My search in Wexford comes as a result of a DNA match, I have made some progress, time and a couple of marriage certificates will define the success of the Wexford Butlers line of research I was quite surprised by the number of Butlers in Wexford.

Peter

Re: Butler DNA

Posted: 27 May 2013 7:37PM GMT
Classification: Query
You should look in Kilkenny where Butler's Chocolates come from and they had a open walled 'castle', the horses stables are absolutely beautiful and are now a shopping mall.
I have pictures but have changed computers and haven't figured out where they are. Annette, Canada.

Re: Butler DNA

Posted: 27 May 2013 7:53PM GMT
Classification: Query
I have been to Kilkenny and to "Butler Castle" my grandfather was born in Laois, near Durrow, he moved to Dulin around 1900.

There are lots of Butlers in Kilkenny but not many with DNA tests unfortunatly.

Finding a link with Butler's Chocolates would be a very good find I could certainly help them with quality control sampling.

Peter

Re: Butler DNA

Posted: 21 Apr 2016 1:22AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Butler, Carroll or Carr
Hi Peter ,
I am at a road block and was searching through the Butler threads to see if anything struck a cord. I came across a few of your posts and thought I'd reach out to you. My father just took a dna test. His great great grandfather was Thomas Butler b abt 1795 Ireland d. 1875 Brooklyn NY. I don't think he was in the US very long. He was married to Elizabeth Carroll (maybe Carr??). I believe the family was in or around Dublin - I could be wrong - and it looks like the family moved to Nottingham in the late 1840s. Two of his daughters moved to Brooklyn NY abt 1865. Anyway, I thought you might be interested in the DNA results.... I can't really find anything in them.... a bit disappointing. If you decide to take a look please let me know if you find anything interesting.
Regards.
Mike Suchan

Re: Butler DNA

Posted: 21 Apr 2016 10:54AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Butler
Mike
Always interested in any possible match with another Butler, are you aware of this site http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/butler/results it may give you some pointers as to the origins of your Butlers. If you send me a private message via Ancestry along with your email address we can compare DNA. Even if you don't match me I have other contacts. In the 10 years since having my DNA tested I have 2 close YDNA matches with other Butlers and a number of close YDNA matches with people bearing the surname Whitson in the USA, it seems the Butler DNA has crept into the Whitson line back a couple of hundred years or so.

Look forward to hearing from you,
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