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Gertrude A Brown

Posted: 6 Apr 2012 1:42PM GMT
Classification: Query
Keep hitting roadblocks in trying to track down info on my mother. Her maiden name was Gertrude A Brown--born 1915 (about) in Greenville Maine. She was wed to a Raymond G Hill of Lynn Ma poss sometime in early 1940's. The oldest of the 3 brothers was born in 1946 and that is how I am figuring the year of marriage. Raymond was born in 1890 in Lynn,Mass. He was also maried before he married Gertrude. Gertrude had 3 sone with Raymond (I am youngest born in 1953.

I simply cant find any info about her either in Maine or in Mass. She died 1963 in Tampa,Fl. Am looking for information for her as a way to try and see if any of her relatives are still living. I do not anything about her parents or if she has any siblings or not. Tnanks C. Hill

Re: Gertrude A Brown

Posted: 7 Apr 2012 8:34AM GMT
Classification: Biography
Surnames: BROWN
Name: Gertrude Ada Hill
Death Date: Jan 1963
County of Death: Hillsborough
State of Death: Florida
Race: White
Gender: Female


1920
Name: Weston L Brown
[Weston S Brown]
Age: 34
Birth Year: abt 1886
Birthplace: Maine
Home in 1920: Elliottsville, Piscataquis, Maine
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Esther E Brown
Father's Birthplace: Maine
Mother's Birthplace: Maine
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
+
Name: Esther E Brown
Age: 25
Birth Year: abt 1895
Birthplace: Maine
Home in 1920: Elliottsville, Piscataquis, Maine
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Weston L Brown
Father's Birthplace: Maine
Mother's Birthplace: Maine
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Ye
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Name: Gertrude A Brown
Age: 6
Birth Year: abt 1914
Birthplace: Maine
Home in 1920: Elliottsville, Piscataquis, Maine
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
+
Name: Alvano W Brown
Age: 0
[1/12]
Birth Year: abt 1920
[abt 1919]
Birthplace: Maine
Home in 1920: Elliottsville, Piscataquis, Maine
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Son



Name: Alvano W Brown
Death Date: 4 Apr 1981
County of Death: Richmond
Gender: M (Male)
Race: White
Age: 61 Years
County of Residence: Richmond
Certificate: 014004
Date Filed: 17 Apr 1981

+
Name: Alvano Brown
SSN: 007-18-6286
Born: 23 Dec 1919
Last Benefit: 30903 Augusta, Richmond, Georgia, United States of America
Died: Apr 1981
State (Year) SSN issued: Maine (Before 1951)


Name: Alvano Weston Brown
2ND CHILD
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 23 Dec 1919
Birth Place: Camp 12 Brownville
Registration Place: China, Kennebec
Father: Welton L Brown BORN EN..FIELD, MAINE
Mother: Esther EMMERSON B BAUGAR


WW2
Name: Alvano W Brown
Birth Year: 1919
Race: White, citizen (White)
Nativity State or Country: Maine
State of Residence: Maine
County or City: Piscataquis
Enlistment Date: 30 Oct 1945
Enlistment State: Indiana
Enlistment City: Shelbyville
Branch: Signal Corps
Branch Code: Signal Corps
Grade: Corporal
Grade Code: Corporal
Term of Enlistment: Enlistment for Hawaiian Department
Component: Regular Army (including Officers, Nurses, Warrant Officers, and Enlisted Men)
Source: Enlisted Man, Philippine Scout or recall to AD of an enlisted man who had been transferred to the ERC
Education: Grammar school
Marital Status: Single, without dependents


WW1
12 SEP 1918
Name: Weston Llewellyn Brown
FARMER
WIFE ESTHER EMERSON BROWN
County: Penobscot
State: Maine
Birth Date: 31 Jan 1885
Race: White
TALL
MED BUILD
GRAY EYES
BLACK HAIR
FHL Roll Number: 1654009



1910
Name: Weston L Brown
Age in 1910: 25
Birth Year: 1885
Birthplace: Maine
Home in 1910: Seboeis Plantation, Penobscot, Maine
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Brother-in-law
Marital Status: Single
Father's Birthplace: Maine
Mother's Birthplace: Maine
WITH
Albert W Bickford 38
Emma A Bickford 28 (HIS SISTER)
Albert E Bickford 10
Calvin F Bickford 5
Weston L Brown 25
Willard H Brown 20 (HIS BROTHER)

RAYMOND G W HILL, MASSACHUSETTS

Posted: 7 Apr 2012 8:53AM GMT
Classification: Biography
Surnames: HILL
WW1
Name: Raymond G W Hill
MARRIED
City: Lynn
County: Essex
State: Massachusetts
Birthplace: Massachusetts;United States of America
Birth Date: 4 Jul 1890
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1674355


WW2
Name: Raymond George Hill
EMPLOYED PASSENGER YARD SERVICE, BOSTON, SUFFOLK
Birth Date: 4 Jul 1890
Birth Place: Lynn, Massachusetts
Residence: 13 LEMON ST, SALEM, Essex, Massachusetts
MAILING ADDRESS 202MARIA A ST., LYNN
WHO WILL KNOW HIM - MRS MINNIE HILL (ABOVE ADDRESS)
Race: White



Name: Raymond G W Hill
Service Info.: SN2 US NAVY WORLD WAR I
Birth Date: 4 Jul 1890
Death Date: 15 Dec 1984
Service Start Date: 3 May 1918
Interment Date: 20 Dec 1984
Cemetery: Massachusetts National Cemetery
Cemetery Address: Off Connery Avenue Bourne, MA 02532
Buried At: Section 4 Site 1080


Name: Raymond G Hill
Certificate: 056582
Death Place: Saugus
Death Date: 15 Dec 1984
Birth Place: Massachusetts
Birth Date: 4 Jul 1890


1900
Name: George T Hill
Age: 36
Birth Date: Oct 1863
Birthplace: England
Home in 1900: Lynn Ward 3, Essex, Massachusetts
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1886
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Minnie C Hill
Marriage Year: 1890
Years Married: 10
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
+
Name: Minnie C Hill
Age: 32
Birth Date: Oct 1867
Birthplace: England
Home in 1900: Lynn Ward 3, Essex, Massachusetts
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1888
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: George T Hill
Marriage Year: 1890
Years Married: 10
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Mother: number of living children: 3
Mother: How many children: 3
+
Name: Raymond G W Hill
Age: 9
Birth Date: Jul 1890
Birthplace: Massachusetts
Home in 1900: Lynn Ward 3, Essex, Massachusetts
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Son
Marital Status: Single
Father's Name: George T Hill
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Name: Minnie C Hill
Mother's Birthplace: England
+
Name: Helen M Hill
Age: 8
Birth Date: Aug 1891
Birthplace: Massachusetts
Home in 1900: Lynn Ward 3, Essex, Massachusetts
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
+
Name: Cordelia E Hill
Age: 1
Birth Date: Apr 1899
Birthplace: Massachusetts
Home in 1900: Lynn Ward 3, Essex, Massachusetts
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Daughter


1920
Name: Raymond G Hill
Age: 29
Birth Year: abt 1891
Birthplace: Massachusetts
Home in 1920: Lynn Ward 3, Essex, Massachusetts
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Ella M Hill
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Home owned: Rent
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
+
Name: Ella M Hill
Age: 25
[2]
Birth Year: abt 1895
[abt 1918]
Birthplace: Maine
Home in 1920: Lynn Ward 3, Essex, Massachusetts
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Raymond G Hill
Father's Birthplace: Maine
Mother's Birthplace: Massachusetts
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes


1930
Name: Raymond G Hill
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1891
Birthplace: Massachusetts
Race: White
Home in 1930: Lynn, Essex, Massachusetts
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Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Marie G Hill
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
+
Name: Marie G Hill
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1894
Birthplace: American Citizen
Race: White
Home in 1930: Lynn, Essex, Massachusetts
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Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's Name: Raymond G Hill
Father's Birthplace: New Hampshire
Mother's Birthplace: Canada English
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Name: Henry W Thibert
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1921
Birthplace: Massachusetts
Race: White
Home in 1930: Lynn, Essex, Massachusetts
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Marital Status: Single
Relation to Head of House: Stepson
Father's Birthplace: Vermont
Mother's Name: Marie G Hill
Mother's Birthplace: American Citizen
+
Name: Bernard M Thibert
[Bernice M Thibert]
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1923
Birthplace: Massachusetts
Race: White
Home in 1930: Lynn, Essex, Massachusetts
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Marital Status: Single
Relation to Head of House: Stepson
Father's Birthplace: Vermont
Mother's Name: Marie G Hill
Mother's Birthplace: American Citizen



Name: Bernard M. Thibert
Last Residence: 32033 Elkton, Saint Johns, Florida, United States of America
Born: 19 Apr 1922
Died: 20 Mar 2003
State (Year) SSN issued: Massachusetts (Before 1951)

Re: RAYMOND G W HILL, MASSACHUSETTS

Posted: 7 Apr 2012 9:16AM GMT
Classification: Census
Surnames: HILL
1910
Name: George T Hill
Age in 1910: 46
Birth Year: 1864
Birthplace: England
Home in 1910: Lynn Ward 3, Essex, Massachusetts
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1884
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Minnie C Hill
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
+
Name: Minnie C Hill
Age in 1910: 42
Birth Year: 1868
Birthplace: England
Home in 1910: Lynn Ward 3, Essex, Massachusetts
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1888
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: George T Hill
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
+
Name: George W Hill
Age in 1910: 19
Birth Year: 1891
Birthplace: Massachusetts
Home in 1910: Lynn Ward 3, Essex, Massachusetts
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Son
Marital Status: Single
Father's Name: George T Hill
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Name: Minnie C Hill
Mother's Birthplace: England
+
Name: Cora E Hill
Age in 1910: 11
Birth Year: 1899
Birthplace: Massachusetts
Home in 1910: Lynn Ward 3, Essex, Massachusetts
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Daughter


1920
Name: George T Hill
Age: 56
Birth Year: abt 1864
Birthplace: England
Home in 1920: Lynn Ward 3, Essex, Massachusetts
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1882
[1892]
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Minnie C Hill
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Home owned: Own
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
+
Name: Minnie C Hill
Age: 52
Birth Year: abt 1868
Birthplace: England
Home in 1920: Lynn Ward 3, Essex, Massachusetts
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1886
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: George T Hill
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
+
Name: Cora E Hill
Age: 20
Birth Year: abt 1900
Birthplace: Massachusetts
Home in 1920: Lynn Ward 3, Essex, Massachusetts
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Daughter


1930
Name: George T Hill
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1864
Birthplace: England
Race: White
Home in 1930: Lynn, Essex, Massachusetts
View Map
Marital Status: Married
Immigration Year: 1885
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Minnie C Hill
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
+
Name: Minnie C Hill
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1868
Birthplace: England
Race: White
Home in 1930: Lynn, Essex, Massachusetts
View Map
Marital Status: Married
Immigration Year: 1889
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's Name: George T Hill
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
+
Name: Cordelia E Hill
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1899
Birthplace: Massachusetts
Race: White
Home in 1930: Lynn, Essex, Massachusetts
View Map
Marital Status: Single
Relation to Head of House: Daughter



Name: Cordelia Hill
Arrival Date: 24 Apr 1938
Birth Year: abt 1899
Birth Location: Massachusetts
Birth Location Other: Lynn
Age: 39
Gender: Female
Port of Departure: Hamilton, Bermuda
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States
Ship Name: Monarch of Bermuda
ADDRESS IN US 202 MARIANNA ST., E LYNN

Re: Gertrude A Brown

Posted: 7 Apr 2012 10:15AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Brown
Hello,

It took me a while looking through all the BROWN's in Piscataquis County, ME, and looked for people young enough to have young children in 1920. The next to last family on the list seems to be your mother's parents:

BROWN, WESTON L (1920 U.S. Census)
MAINE , PISCATAQUIS, ELLIOTTSVILLE PLANTATION
Age: 34, Male, Race: WHITE, Born: ME
Series: T625 Roll: 647 Page: 88

Weston's wife is Esther E. BROWN, 25, and this census has them with 2 children, Gertrude A. BROWN, 6, and a newborn son, Alvano W. BROWN. (Handwriting is hard to read so I don't know if it says, Alvano.) Weston is a laborer, and then it says something like a Section Man. Other neighbors say the same occupation. Everyone is from a Maine family.

With that name, I went back to the 1910 census and find Weston here. He and his brother, Willard BROWN, 20, are listed as brothers-in-law to an Albert BICKFORD and his wife, Emma. They have 2 young children. Albert is from Canada/English, and they had been married for 12 yrs., with 4 children, but only 2 are living, Albert, 10, and Calvin, 5.

BROWN, WESTON L (1910 U.S. Census)
MAINE , PENOBSCOT, SEBOEIS PLANTATION
Age: 25, Male, Race: WHITE, Born: ME
Series: T624 Roll: 544 Page: 140

.. There is another Weston BROWN in another town:

BROWN, WESTON G (1910 U.S. Census)
MAINE , PENOBSCOT, CORINTH
Age: 44, Male, Race: WHITE, Born: ME
Series: T624 Roll: 544 Page: 161

.. There is another Weston BROWN in Washington Co., ME, actually in Princeton, and a neighbor of my ancestor, Joseph KIDDER.

.. I find a Weston BROWN in 1900, but at 15 he's living with a TATE family as a servant.

BROWN, WESTON C (1900 U.S. Census)
MAINE , PENOBSCOT, CORINTH
Age: 15, Male, Race: WHITE, Born: ME
Series: T623 Roll: 597 Page: 46

There is this Weston, an older man:

BROWN, WESTON (1900 U.S. Census)
MAINE , LINCOLN, SOMERVILLE
Age: 67, Male, Race: WHITE, Born: ME
Series: T623 Roll: 596 Page: 147

In 1880 these 2 Westons are listed:

BROWN, WESTON (1880 U.S. Census)
MAINE , LINCOLN, SOMERVILLE
Age: 46, Race: WHITE, Born: ME
Series: T9 Roll: 483 Page: 550

BROWN, WESTON J. (1880 U.S. Census)
MAINE , WASHINGTON, PRINCETON
Age: 29, Race: WHITE, Born: ME
Series: T9 Roll: 489 Page: 41


A quick look at www.familysearch.org and I only find the Weston BROWN, b~1885, mentioned for the 3 census years. No other information.

I just looked for an Alvano BROWN and find him here:

Name: Alvano W Brown
Residence: , Piscataquis, Maine
Estimated Birth Year: 1920
Age: 0
Birthplace: Maine
Relationship to Head of Household: Son
Gender: Male
Race: White
Marital Status: Single
Father's Birthplace: Maine
Mother's Birthplace: Maine
Film Number: 1820647
Digital Folder Number: 4301002
Image Number: 00181
Sheet Number: 4
Household Gender Age
Parent Weston L Brown M 34y
Parent Esther E Brown F 25y
Gertrude A Brown F 6y
Alvano W Brown M 1m
Alice Emerson F 68y

Back at HeritageQuest, Mrs. Alice EMERSON, widow, is listed as a boarder.

This is unusual. In 1930 Alvano is listed as a step-son:

Name: Alvano W Brown
Event: Census
Event Date: 1930
Event Place: Seboeis, Penobscot, Maine
Gender: Male
Age: 9
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Birthplace: Maine
Estimated Birth Year: 1921
Immigration Year:
Relationship to Head of Household: Stepson
Father's Birthplace: Maine
Mother's Birthplace: Maine
Enumeration District Number: 0092
Family Number: 9
Sheet Number and Letter: 1A
Line Number: 25
NARA Publication: T626, roll 838
Film Number: 2340573
Digital Folder Number: 4584738
Image Number: 00373
Household Gender Age
William P Pierce M 34
Caroline E Pierce F 35
Alvano W Brown M 9
Robert E Brown M 7

.. Earlier Alvano's mother is listed as Esther E. BROWN, but here she is listed as Caroline E. (?) (BROWN) PIERCE.

Hope this helps a little.

Betty (near Lowell, MA)


(on Lists and Boards for 10 yrs.; now an Admin for 9 Lists and 3 Boards, including CAN-USA-Migration and a Board for New-England-Research) (already a List for New-Eng-Gen)


Re: Gertrude A Brown

Posted: 7 Apr 2012 12:52PM GMT
Classification: Query
This query was 1st posted in December, I did some research on the Weston Brown family at that time:

http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.northam.usa.states.mai...

I did a little research on the Gertrude A Brown that is the daughter of Weston Brown and Esther Caroline Emerson. Weston died sometime between 1920 and 1930. Esther Caroline remarried William Phineous Pierce. There is an obituary online for William Pierce that mentions his stepchildren.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2457&dat=19740603&...;...

Gertrude is Gertrude Pierce of Bristol, CT in the obituary. The Connecticut Death Index gives this information:

Name: Gertrude A Pierce
Father's Surname: Brown
Death Date: 20 Mar 1990
Death Place: Bristol, Hartford, Connecticut
Age: 76 Years
Birth Place: Maine
Birth Date: 30 May 1913
Marital Status: Widowed
Spouse: Franc
State File #: 05459
Occupation: HMEMKR
Industry: OWN RES
Education: Primary/Secondary
Residence : Bristol, Hartford, Connecticut
Address: 396 Fall Mountain Rd 060105985

Gertrude and Frank Pierce are in the 1930 Census, married and living in Milo, Maine.

Francis (Frank/Franc) H Pierce also died in CT, so it appears that they were married sometime in 1930 and were married until 1985 when Frank died.

Re: Gertrude A Brown

Posted: 7 Apr 2012 1:02PM GMT
Classification: Query
http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.hill/5611/mb.ashx?pnt=1
Gertrude A. Hill obituary 1963 - Tampa Tribune

"MRS. GERTRUDE A. HILL - Mrs. Gertrude A. Hill, 48, 8410 Ashley St., died Saturday morning at a Tampa hospital. A native of Brownville, Maine, she had lived in Tampa four years. She was a member of St. Andrew's Episcopal Church. Survivors include her husband, Raymond G. Hill; three sons, Raymond F. Hill, George F. Hill and Charles E. Hill, all of Tampa."

Published in The Tampa Morning Tribune, Sunday, January 27, 1963.

Re: Gertrude A Brown

Posted: 7 Apr 2012 2:29PM GMT
Classification: Query
Have you gotten a copy of your mother's death certificate? It should name your mother's parents.

Have you tried to get a copy of your parent's marriage certificate? It should also name your mother's parents.

Re: Gertrude A Brown b. abt 1915 Greenville, ME

Posted: 11 Apr 2012 5:02AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Brown, Reed,
Dear C. Hill,

I have order many a record from the Greenville Town Clerk's Office, both in person and through the mail. They are very helpful. Give them a call for complete directions. Info is on the town site. If Gertrude was born in Greenville they will have a record of it. It will include her parents' name and place of birth.


There is a railroad that goes through Greenville and one in New Haven and may help to explain why she moved around as seen in the index record data below. Charles worked for the RR. Notice that they are a little bit older parents for an only child. In 1930 she is with her grandfather. I hope it belongs to her family!

1930 Census
Name:Gertrude Brown
Gender:Female
Birth Year:abt 1915
Birthplace:Maine
Race:White
Home in 1930:Lynn, Essex, Massachusetts
Marital Status:Single
Relation to Head of House:Granddaughter
Elmer Reed52
Alice Reed63
Gertrude Brown15 born in Maine (parents born in NH & ME]

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1920 Census
Age:5
Birth Year:abt 1915
Birthplace:Maine
Home in 1920:New Haven Ward 12, New Haven, Connecticut
Race:White
Gender:Female
Relation to Head of House:Daughter
Marital Status:Single
Father's Name:Charles Brown
Father's Birthplace:Massachusetts
Mother's Name:Nina Brown
Mother's Birthplace:New Hampshire
Household Members:NameAge
Charles Brown42
Nina Brown36
Gertrude Brown5 b. in Maine

==============

Let me know what you think,
Deb T.
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