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Miramontes Family History

Miramontes Family History

Dawn Miramontes (View posts)
Posted: 12 Jan 2005 9:24AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Miramontes Soria Cruz Landa
Hello. I am in the beginning stages of my genealogy work and am looking for any information anyone may be able to provide to fill in the blanks. The information I have so far is:
Pedro Miramontes married Herculana Soria. One of their sons was Delfin Miramontes Soria who married Maria Cruz Torres in Huejuquilla El Alto Jalisco Mexico. I have an unconfirmed date of Delfin's death, 1940. One of their sons was Jesus Miramontes Landa born in Huejuquilla El Alto Jalisco Mexio, who married Consuelo Landa Pacheco. Jesus and Consuelo had 2 childred: Jesus J. Miramontes Landa born 07/04/58 in Huejuquilla El Alto Jalisco Mexio and Maria Olga Miramontes Landa also born in Huejuquilla El Alto Jalisco Mexio.
One of Delfin & Maria's other sons was Delfino Miramontes Cruz born July 6, 1941 in Huejuquilla El Alto Jalisco Mexico. Delfino married Consuelo Landa Pacheco, his brother's widow, on October 12, 1961, Tijuana BC Mexico. Delfino died May 19, 2000 in San Diego, CA.
Delfino & Consuelo had 3 children all born in Tijuana BC Norte Mexico:
Jose born 09/27/61
Martha born 11/24/63
and Sigifredo 10/02/66
Sigifredo married Dawn Marie Miller 12/26/98 in San Diego, CA. Dawn was born 04/19/64 Tacoma, WA. They have one son, Alejandro Miller Miramontes born 11/07/99 in San Diego, CA.
Any prior history that is available at all would be a huge help. Thank you in advance.

Re: Miramontes Family History

Posted: 25 Jun 2008 8:29PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Miramontes Landa
Yo conoci una Martha Miramontes Landa en la UABC (universidad de Baja California) en el 82. Lo que recuerdo de ella era que su papa El sr. Miramontes (por cierto padecia de algo en los ojos porque siempre traia puestos lentes oscuros)habia trabajado por muchos anos en una gasolineria en el bl Agua Caliente col. cacho esquina con la calle guanajuato y recuerdo que contaba que tenia un hermano que trabajaba en Pizzas Guiseppes (las mas famosas de aquel entonces) enseguida de donde trabajaba su papa (gasolineria).Ella es Contadora Publica, se que se caso, pero ya le pedi el rastro sera de la familia de uds.






Re: Miramontes Family History

Posted: 10 Jun 2009 3:09AM GMT
Classification: Query
My name is Marsela. My grandparents Fransica Miramontes married to Jesus Miramontes raised in Sacatexa ,Mexico they had 11 children eldest Emilio;Helinda;Memo;Armando;Josefina;Maria;Miguel(my father);Jesus Jr.;Salvidor;Geraldo. It would take forever if I named off everyone and where they live and there kids and grandkids and great grand kids but for myself I live in Aurora ,Illinois born in Bloomington il. I am married with 4 children of my own. If anyone has more info let me know.

Re: Miramontes Family History

Posted: 29 Jun 2012 4:53AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Miramontes, Ortiz, Caldera
Hi! I hope you were able to find more information on your family line. I'm just starting my search. Harder than I could ever imagine. I'm trying to find out who the parents are for my mothers ancestors Jose Ortiz Caldera (approx yr of birth 1894) & Maria Concepcion Miramontes (approx yr of birth 1900). They are both from Huejuquilla El Alto Jalisco. They married & had children: Mosies Ortiz (my grandfather), Maria Juana Ortiz, Juan Ortiz, & Carolina Ortiz. Not sure if they had anymore kids since I"m going off the 1930 Mexico Census but my mom confirmed the names listed as her uncles/aunts. My grandfather was killed when my mom was young & my mom has very little info from his side of the fam. Just wondering if your Miramontes family might be connected with mine. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. !

Re: Miramontes Family History

Posted: 30 Jun 2012 12:32AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello! I am slowly but surely gathering names and dates of ancestors. I am going to forward your message to two of the more experienced geneologists in our family as I am a beginner too. She may be able to recognize some of the names and/or dates. My husband's uncle was also killed before he was born, leaving behind his wife & 2 children. He was also on the Miramontes side of the family.

Re: Miramontes Family History

Posted: 30 Jun 2012 3:15AM GMT
Classification: Query
Thanks for your prompt reply. I look forward to hearing more. Thanks again.

Re: Miramontes Family History

Posted: 30 Jun 2012 8:40PM GMT
Classification: Query
Daisy, one of our family geneologists just sent me an updated email last night. Talk about a coincidence! I will past the majority of her message below:
I have been working on some stuff here the last couple of weeks. I haven't said anything, because I wanted to surprise both of you! I have actually found some stuff on a website. I hit the jackpot with my mother-in-law's family that I now have names for as far back as the early 1870's. I was really having a hard time with the Landa's though! There were some Landa's coming up here and there, but nobody that I could connect! Not Doroteo, not Florencia, not Inocencio or any of the other kids. It was driving me mad because they were the ones I REALLY wanted to find! (not that I'm upset about what I've found on my mother-in-law's family!) It has been time consuming to say the least. There are thousands of Birth/Death/Marriage records to look at. Some are VERY hard to read! And these are both civil and Catholic Church records. So, I guess the cat's out of the bag now and I'll have to give up my secret earlier than I had planned.

I finally found Doroteo in the 1930 census, living with his son Inocencio, Inocencio's wife Vicenta Escamilla, and their 12 kids. It says that Doroteo was 85 years old and...here's the "juicy" part...he was DIVORCED!!!! (no divorce documents online that I can find!)
I have found 3 marriage documents for Florencia and Doroteo, 1 civil and 2 from the church. Their civil marriage was 26 May 1874 in the home of Cristobal Landa (have yet to connect him). Their church marriage took place 27 May 1874. Doroteo's parents were Policarpo Landa and Juliana Talavera. Florencia's parents were Jorge Landa and Severiana Caldera. Only Policarpo was still living when they were married. One of the church documents states that they are blood related "en segundo con tercer grado". I am not sure what that means...second cousins? Third cousins? I have also found that Florencia had a sister named Faustina and Doroteo had a sister named Tomasa. Tomasa was married to Juan Escovedo on 23 July 1874. Faustina was married to Agustin Figueroa on 11 December 1872.
It also seems that they interchange Landa and de Landa all the time. Almost all the Landa's in the 1880's are in Huejuquilla and not at the Rancho de Los Landa (also known as San Cayetano de los Landa and San Cayetano).
I have not yet found birth/baptism/death records for Doroteo or Florencia. I have done some searching to no avail, but we need to remember that there are thousands of documents to go through page by page. So far I have found some records for their children (Jose)Ysabel, Maclovio, Maria Cruz and Maximina. I have yet to find Inocencio and Virginia (with the exception of Inocencio in the 1930 census, plus baptismal records for his 3 youngest children).
My plan is to send both of you the detailed information with website and image numbers so you can make copies of all this info for your own records and then discover what you can about your own individual lines.
I will give you this. Daisy, I found on your Virginia line a baptism record for Juana Ramirez, daughter of Hermengildo Ramirez and Julia Madera, born 21 July 1926 and baptized 26 July 1926. Godparents were J. Jesus Ocampo and Maria Panuco. I also found Julia Madera's baptismal record 10 May 1904.
For you Dawn (and for Sigi) I have found Jesus Miramontes' baptismal record. He was born in La Cienega on 30 March 1933 and baptized 7 May 1933. I have searched for a death record in Huejuquilla from 1958 to 1961 and can not find anything in either the civil or church records. Sorry! I did, though, find Sigi's tio Antonio Miramontes' baptismal record. He was born 6 August 1927 and baptized 28 August 1927.
If either of you can come up with any clues as to where/when Doroteo and Florencia died, I'd appreciate it. I was wondering if maybe they were in Zacatecas or Nayarit with another of their children or something. I will be sending you all the details of what I have und when I have it all organized.

I am positive that some of this information will prove to be useful to you.

Kindest regards,
Dawn Miramontes

Re: Miramontes Family History

Posted: 30 Jun 2012 8:41PM GMT
Classification: Query
I hit the jackpot with my mother-in-law's family that I now have names for as far back as the early 1870's. I was really having a hard time with the Landa's though! There were some Landa's coming up here and there, but nobody that I could connect! Not Doroteo, not Florencia, not Inocencio or any of the other kids. It was driving me mad because they were the ones I REALLY wanted to find! (not that I'm upset about what I've found on my mother-in-law's family!) It has been time consuming to say the least. There are thousands of Birth/Death/Marriage records to look at. Some are VERY hard to read! And these are both civil and Catholic Church records. So, I guess the cat's out of the bag now and I'll have to give up my secret earlier than I had planned.

I finally found Doroteo in the 1930 census, living with his son Inocencio, Inocencio's wife Vicenta Escamilla, and their 12 kids. It says that Doroteo was 85 years old and...here's the "juicy" part...he was DIVORCED!!!! (no divorce documents online that I can find!)
I have found 3 marriage documents for Florencia and Doroteo, 1 civil and 2 from the church. Their civil marriage was 26 May 1874 in the home of Cristobal Landa (have yet to connect him). Their church marriage took place 27 May 1874. Doroteo's parents were Policarpo Landa and Juliana Talavera. Florencia's parents were Jorge Landa and Severiana Caldera. Only Policarpo was still living when they were married. One of the church documents states that they are blood related "en segundo con tercer grado". I am not sure what that means...second cousins? Third cousins? I have also found that Florencia had a sister named Faustina and Doroteo had a sister named Tomasa. Tomasa was married to Juan Escovedo on 23 July 1874. Faustina was married to Agustin Figueroa on 11 December 1872.
It also seems that they interchange Landa and de Landa all the time. Almost all the Landa's in the 1880's are in Huejuquilla and not at the Rancho de Los Landa (also known as San Cayetano de los Landa and San Cayetano).
I have not yet found birth/baptism/death records for Doroteo or Florencia. I have done some searching to no avail, but we need to remember that there are thousands of documents to go through page by page. So far I have found some records for their children (Jose)Ysabel, Maclovio, Maria Cruz and Maximina. I have yet to find Inocencio and Virginia (with the exception of Inocencio in the 1930 census, plus baptismal records for his 3 youngest children).
My plan is to send both of you the detailed information with website and image numbers so you can make copies of all this info for your own records and then discover what you can about your own individual lines.
I will give you this. Daisy, I found on your Virginia line a baptism record for Juana Ramirez, daughter of Hermengildo Ramirez and Julia Madera, born 21 July 1926 and baptized 26 July 1926. Godparents were J. Jesus Ocampo and Maria Panuco. I also found Julia Madera's baptismal record 10 May 1904.
For you Dawn (and for Sigi) I have found Jesus Miramontes' baptismal record. He was born in La Cienega on 30 March 1933 and baptized 7 May 1933. I have searched for a death record in Huejuquilla from 1958 to 1961 and can not find anything in either the civil or church records. Sorry! I did, though, find Sigi's tio Antonio Miramontes' baptismal record. He was born 6 August 1927 and baptized 28 August 1927.
If either of you can come up with any clues as to where/when Doroteo and Florencia died, I'd appreciate it. I was wondering if maybe they were in Zacatecas or Nayarit with another of their children or something. I will be sending you all the details of what I have und when I have it all organized.

I am positive that some of this information will prove to be useful to you.

Kindest regards,
Dawn Miramontes

Re: Miramontes Family History

Posted: 20 Aug 2012 5:40PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi my great great grandparents are also Doroteo and Florencia Landa.Your research helped my family tree. Thankyou. Maria Cruz Landa is my father's grandmother.
I knew Maximina Landa (our tia chimina)well. She lived here in Los Angeles till she was 102. Doroteo fought against the french. Maria Cruz was a tough dagger carrying woman. Some man disrespected her once.So she beat him so bad when they asked him who did it he couldn't talk so he made a cross(for Cruz)with his fingers.Another story; some man lunged at Doroteo with a knife Ole Papa Teo had to kill him. He did a few years in prison even though it was self defense.I have a picture of him when he was released.Cruz said her father Doroteo came from Torres Mochas. I also heard about the "segundo con tercer grado" thing. Must of been a long trip. lol

Re: Miramontes Family History

Posted: 22 Aug 2012 12:46AM GMT
Classification: Query
Fantastic! I will be sure to share your information with our lead family genealogist Jodi Landa. She has an amazing amount of information & works continually on our family history. I get so excited with each piece of information I am able to gather. It helps us all put a beautiful mosiac of our ancestors together.
Kindest regards,
Dawn
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