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Jewish roots for the Roosa family????

Jewish roots for the Roosa family????

Posted: 1 Feb 2001 11:35AM GMT
Edited: 22 Jun 2001 3:27PM GMT
Hi,
I descend from Aldert Heymans Roosa's daughter, Merije (Mary)who married a Lowe, and their daughter, Neelji married a Conrad Lammers..and their daughter Antiji Lammers married my direct line old Dutch Tomaes Peterse, my now Peterson family. I am very much interested in the speculated early Spanish Jewish roots of this family. I am wondering if anyone is currently searching in Rosa, now in the province of Gerona, Spain. Very fascinating, historically and genealogically!
Thanks,
Annie

Re: Jewish roots for the Roosa family????

Posted: 10 Sep 2001 2:47AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 7 Jun 2002 5:43AM GMT
Surnames: Roosa
The Roosa Family is of Jewish Descent from the town of Rosas Spain. They eventually followed the Roman Conquest north into Belgium and the Rhine River Area.

Re: Jewish roots for the Roosa family????

Ann Johnson (View posts)
Posted: 10 Sep 2001 3:29AM GMT
Classification: Query
Thanks for the reply. I hate to ask you for your source, but would like to know as I am so interested in this family. It has been an exciting journey finding the information about the Roosa line in the U.S. starting with Aldert Haymans Roosa in New Amsterdam, circa 1660's.
Thanks for any info you care to share.
Annie

Re: Jewish roots for the Roosa family????

Posted: 15 Sep 2002 12:49AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 17 Sep 2002 12:22AM GMT
HEYMAN ROOSA was born 1593 in Gelderland, Netherland. HEYMAN is a Jewish name, and ROOSA is a name translated from Spanish ROSAS. It is also a city on the northeast coast of Spain. That is where the Roosa family got it's start.

Re: Jewish roots for the Roosa family????

Posted: 15 Nov 2003 11:58PM GMT
Classification: Query
wonderful, that makes my children 100% Jewish!!!!!1

Re: Jewish roots for the Roosa family????

Bethny (View posts)
Posted: 24 Feb 2004 10:46PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Roosa
Yes, but is that enough to be considered "documentation"?

I have seen Heyman's name written as Heymanse as well, and I am not aware that Hymanse is Jewish. Also, I have seen many different references to Roosa/Roose/Rose/Rosa/Roza, and I have yet to see anything that makes Roosa "Jewish."

Trust me, I would love to find out that there is a Jewish heritage there, so I am not poo-poohing the idea that we ARE from Jewish roots. However, I can only wonder if your reasoning is enough to make it fact. I am wanting to find some definitive documentation that says where the Roosa name originates from.

Does anybody have this?

Re: Jewish roots for the Roosa family????

Posted: 29 Jan 2008 5:23AM GMT
Classification: Query
I wrote an entire thread on my thoughts on the matter, but wish to offer a short response here. There is absolutely no evidence linking this Roosa line with Spanish nor Jewish origins. There is, however, a lot of historical consistencies with this claim.
The claim of Spanish origins was may by one of the Roosas sometime prior to any of this family ever coming to America.
And, the proper spelling of the name is Rosa, though I have encountered it as De Rosa among some of this same line. Though I found mention in Dutch Archives of the claim of Spanish ancestory, no mention was made of Jewish ancsestors.
I could not find the Rosa name mentioned any earlier than around 1500, but the earliest Rosa I have seen in anyone's family tree is Guert Rosa born around 1500.
Jews were living in Gelderland for two centuries prior to the 1492 expulsion. And it was only after the Dutch gained their independence that there were large numbers of Jews coming to Holland.
The circumstances certainly lend the air of probability to the idea of Sephardic origins for the Roosas. I certainly have yet to find anything that refutes the idea. But, there is, as of yet, no hard evidence supporting the story.

Re: Jewish roots for the Roosa family????

Posted: 29 Jan 2008 4:55PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Peterson/Lammerse/Lowe/Roosa
Hello, I understand that DNA testing has been done on Roosa direct male descendants and again, as you say, I understand that the tests came out not to be a Jewish Haplogroup. More likely; as I was told, shared a Haplogroup common amongst the Basque people. I don't have the DNA test thread, but I am sure it is out there. Yes, I agree there is much written in historical documents, seemingly to hint of Jewish origins, but who knows at this point. My Roosa line comes in with a grandmother, and so, even my brothers may only have a small portion of their DNA.
Thanks very much for the response. Annie

Re: Jewish roots for the Roosa family????

Posted: 19 May 2008 12:13AM GMT
Classification: Query
I generally do not want to get involved in these types of arguments, but the Roosa family that settled at Herwijnen in the Province of Gelderland, the Netherlands is one of my pedigree families. I trace down from an Aeldert Roosa (not Aeldert Heymanse Roosa) who was born in the 1500's. I have seen where people claim they came from Spain, but have not verified that myself. I personally do not care what religion they are, but I do know that from the very early 1600's, until the family emigrated to America, nearly all of my Aeldert Roosa's descendants were baptized and married in the Reformed Dutch Church (Protestant) at Herwijnen. This does not strike me as being something that a Jewish family would do. In addition, the spelling of Heyman as Heymanse indicates ABSOLUTELY NOTHING MORE, AND MEANS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING MORE, than "son or daughter of Heyman." Until 1814 when Napoleon required all of the low countries to adopt surnames, this is how individuals were identified in the various records. It is the basis of patronyms. I think the Jewish angle is little more than conjecture.

Re: Jewish roots for the Roosa family????

Posted: 27 Aug 2008 9:28PM GMT
Classification: Query
Would love to review the facts that support this claim . . .

Lori Luke
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