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YOUNG A BARBER b.1818 m. REBECCA JORDAN 1838 JOHNSTON CO

YOUNG A BARBER b.1818 m. REBECCA JORDAN 1838 JOHNSTON CO

Posted: 3 Jan 2013 8:37AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: BARBER, JORDAN, HAYWOOD, DIXON, POOLE
I am working on our family history. I am back to MATTHEW JORDAN of JOHNSTON COUNTY. Hoping someone knows YOUNG A BARBER, b. 1818! He married REBECCA, Matthew's daughter. Matthew made Young Barber the executor of his estate (instead of his any of his many sons). The court agreed to appoint YOUNG BARBER Aug. 1849.

Young and Rebecca had six children: (NOTE: birth data from census reports largely)

Brazilla, b 1839 married Jesse M. Barber, son of Wm Garth Barber and Piety.

Lucinda, b. 1840 married Haywood Dixon.

Smithey (female), b. 1844

Emily, b. 1845

Perrin McRae, b. 1847 married Julia Anne Poole

Sarah, b. 1850.

I am hoping someone knows these folks!

WHO is this YOUNG A BARBER's DAD and MOM? Where are they buried?

This family lived in ELEVATION, Johnston County.

Would love to talk to a JOHNSTON CO BARBER FAMILY guru!

Re: YOUNG A BARBER b.1818 m. REBECCA JORDAN 1838 JOHNSTON CO

Posted: 3 Jan 2013 7:05PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Barbour Barber
The Johnston County Barbour/Barber families are really challenging. In fact, I have a Young A. Barbour in my wife's Johnston County family. Their family also lived in Elevation area. However, this Young A Barbour has a birth year of 1853. Perhaps he is related and named for your Young. This one's father is a Haman Barbour. My tree is public on Ancestry.com.

Re: YOUNG A BARBER b.1818 m. REBECCA JORDAN 1838 JOHNSTON CO

Posted: 3 Jan 2013 9:08PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: BARBER, JORDAN, DIXON, POOLE
I know of the younger YOUNG A BARBER who was son of HAMAN and LYDIA COLLIER THOMAS. OUR YOUNG A BARBER and your HAMAN were living very very close (with one DIXON between them) in the 1850 census in ELEVATION. I have wondered if they were brothers?

I believe the families are linked. I just don't know how. And I can't find graves for YOUNG or REBECCA and many of their children.

** ALSO of NOTE, PLYER BARBER was BONDSMAN for ALLANA JORDAN (REBECCA's sister) and DANIEL GURLEY. DANIEL GURLEY was BONDSMAN for YOUNG A BARBER and REBECCA JORDAN.

Have wondered about OWEN BARBER. HE MARRIED AN ELIZABETH JORDAN in 1817. The census suggests it is possible. Our YOUNG A's age fits (and HAMAN'S for that matter).

Understand there are a lot of BARBERS. But not all of them come through YOUNG A BARBER and REBECCA JORDAN.

I am hoping someone who actually comes through YOUNG A and REBECCA JORDAN BARBER's line can help me.

Do you have any bible records for HAMAN and his wife? Know who his parents were? Know where he and his family are buried? How about estate papers and deeds?

Re: YOUNG A BARBER b.1818 m. REBECCA JORDAN 1838 JOHNSTON CO

Posted: 3 Jan 2013 9:13PM GMT
Classification: Query
I have no family source documents on Haman, only the facts that Ancestry.com turned up.

Re: YOUNG A BARBER b.1818 m. REBECCA JORDAN 1838 JOHNSTON CO

Posted: 3 Jan 2013 9:41PM GMT
Classification: Query
Interesting that the younger Young A Barber is living with Jesse and Brazilla on the 1880 census. Seems to be another suggestion that the families are connected.

Re: YOUNG A BARBER b.1818 m. REBECCA JORDAN 1838 JOHNSTON CO

Posted: 4 Jan 2013 11:56AM GMT
Classification: Query
Young Barber who married Rebecca Jordan was the son of Drury Barber (1789-1832) and Edith Woodall (1792- ). He and Haman were brothers. There were at least 3 other children - sisters to Young and Haman. They were Celia Barber, who married Alexander Stancil; Mary Barber, who married Jacob Flowers; and Sarah Barber, who married Abram/Abraham Dixon.

All evidence that I have found indicates that Drury Barber was the son of Reuben Barber, grandson of Plyer Barber. Edith Woodall was the daughter of James Woodall and Mary Allen.

I am descended from Haman Barber and Lydia Thomas. I would appreciate any help with the family of Lydia Thomas.

Re: YOUNG A BARBER b.1818 m. REBECCA JORDAN 1838 JOHNSTON CO

Posted: 4 Jan 2013 9:23PM GMT
Classification: Query
Drury/Drewry Barber, b. about 1780-1790 Johnston County, NC [age 40-50 in 1830]; d. before February 24, 1834 Johnston County, NC [Johnston County, NC Court Minutes, Vol. 14, 1831-1834, p. 114]; md. January 13, 1810 [Johnston County, NC Marriage Bond, George Barber, bondsman], Edith Woodall, b. November 11, 1792 [James Woodall Family Record, Woodall-Dixon-Johnson Papers (P.C. 105), Johnston County Heritage Center, Smithfield, NC], d. before 1850 Johnston County, NC, daughter of James Woodall (b, May 1, 1765 Goochland County, VA, d. August 19, 1834 Johnston County, NC) and Mary "Polly" Allen (b. ca. 1767 Johnston County, NC, d. May 16, 1853 Johnston County, NC).

1820 Federal Census, Johnston County, NC, p. 271.
Drury Barber 1 male 26-45 (1775-1794; Drury), 1 female 26-45 (1775-1794; Edith), 1 female 16-26 (1794-1804; female relative?), 2 males 0-10 (1810-1820; Haman, Young); 1 female 0-10 (1810-1820; Celia).

1830 Federal Census, Johnston County, NC, p. 85.
Druery Barber 1 male 40-50 (1780-1790; Drury), 1 female 30-40 (1790-1800; Edith), 1 female 15-20 (1810-1815; Celia), 2 males 10-15 (1815-1820; Haman, Young); 1 female 5-10 (1820-1825; Mary “Polly” A.), 1 female 0-5 (1825-1830; Sarah).

Johnston County, NC Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions, Volume 14, 1831-1834, p. 114.
February 24, 1834, Edith Barber Widow of Drury Barber decd. relinquished in writing her right of administration on her decd. husbands Estate. Administration on said Estate is therefore granted to Gideon Barber [sic, Gideon Woodall] who entered into bond in the sum of Five Hundred Dollars with Jacob J. G. Woodall and James Searcy his Securities and qualified agreeably to Law. Order of sale granted.

Johnston County, NC Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions, Volume 14, 1831-1834, p. 134.
May 28, 1834, Returned by Gideon Woodall adm. an a/c of Sales of the Estate of Drury Barber decd. which was ordered to be Recorded.

Johnston County, NC Record of Estate, Volume 17, pp. 406-407.
Account of Sales of Drewry Barber March 18, 1834.
Inventory of widow’s years support, May Term, 1834.

Issue:

1. Celia Barber, b. about 1815 Johnston County, NC, d. before 1880 Johnston County, NC; md. January 20, 1835 Johnston County, NC, Alexander Stancil, b. about 1807, d. after 1880 Johnston County, NC. On March 30, 1844, Alexander Stancel of Johnston County, NC conveyed to Ransom Pate, for $50, 100 acres on Long Branch which formerly belonged to Drury Barber, dec., and at the division was allotted to Alexander Stancel as one of the legatees, signed by Alexander Stancel and Celia (x) Stancel and witnessed by H. Martin and R. W. Stevens [Proven November Court, 1844; Johnston County, NC Deed Book U-2, p. 296]. In 1850, Alexander Stancil is listed as a 43 year old farmer (1807), along with wife Celah age 36 (1814), daughter Penninah age 10 (1840), son Adam age 8 (1842), daughter Mary age 6 (1844), son Moore age 4 (age 1846), and daughter Louenza age 3 (1847). They were living next door to Celia’s brother Young Barber [1850 Federal Census, Johnston County, NC, District 4, p. 31, Household #455]. Alex Stansil was a 50 year old (1810) farmer on 1860 Federal Census. Residing with him were wife Celia age 45 (1815), daughter Penelope age 21 (1839), son Adam age 20 (1840), daughter Mary age 18 (1842), son Moore age 16 (1844), daughter Louenza age 12 (1848), son[?] Louis age 7 (1853), and daughter[?] Alexandria age 5 (1855) [1860 Federal Census, Johnston County, NC, Dist. West of Neuse, pp. 374b-375, Household # 488/467]. On the 1870 Census, Alexander Stansell was listed as a 62 year old (1808) farmer, along with wife Selia age 54 (1816), daughter Penny age 31 (1839), daughter Mary age 24 (1846), daughter Louanna age 20 (1850), daughter Lina age 16 (1854), and son Alexander age 14 (1856) [1870 Federal Census, Johnston County, NC, Pleasant Grove Township, p. 464b, Household #234]. In 1880, Alexander Stancil is listed as a 73 year old (1807) widower in Pleasant Grove Township, Johnston County, NC, living with daughters Penny age 35 (1845), Mary age 30 (1850), and Lucy age 22 (1858) [1880 Federal Census, Johnston County, NC, Pleasant Grove Township, p. 371b, Household # 257/271].

2. Young Barber, b. about 1819 Johnston County, NC, d. before 1860 Johnston County, NC; md. January 9, 1838 Johnston County, NC, Rebecca Jordan, b. about 1815-1820 Johnston County, NC. On the 1850 Census, Young Barber was enumerated as a 31 year old farmer (1819), along with wife Rebecca age 30 (1820), daughter Brazilla age 11 (1839), daughter Lucinda age 9 (1841), daughter Smithey age 7 (1843), daughter Emily age 5 (1845), son Perrin age 3 (1847), and daughter Sarah age 8 months (ca. Jan, 1850) [1850 Federal Census, Johnston County, NC, District 4, p. 31, Household #456]. Young Barber was deceased before 1860. His widow Rebecca Barber was enumerated as 45 years old (1815), along with daughter Lucinda age 20 (1840), daughter Emily age 14 (1846), son Perrin age 12 (1848). Living with them was a servant Elbert Griffin age 23 (1837). Their daughter Smithy Barber was listed as an 18 year old (1842) servant in the household of next door neighbors Charles and Cassandra (Langdon) Bingham [1860 Federal Census, Johnston County, NC, Dist. West of Neuse, p. 380b, Household #570/550]. Rebecca Barber, age 53 (1817) was living in the household of her son Perrin Barber, age 22 (1848), on the 1870 Census of Johnston County, NC. Also living with them was Smithy Barber age 26 (1844) [1870 Federal Census, Johnston County, NC, p. 392b, Household # 190]. Rebecca Barber was still living as late as 1880, when she was listed as a 61 year old (1819) widow residing with her son P. M. Barber age 31 (1849) [1880 Federal Census, Johnston County, NC, Elevation Township, p. 385, Household # 167/176].

3. Haman Barber, b. about 1820 Johnston County, NC, d. after 1880 Johnston County, NC; md. Lydia Thomas, b. about 1821-1824, d. after 1880 Johnston County, NC. In 1850, Haman Barber was listed as a 27 year old laborer (1823), along with wife Lydia age 26 (1824), son Joseph age 6 (1844), daughter Jane age 3 (1847), and daughter Caroline age 1 (1849) [1850 Federal Census, Johnston County, NC, District 4, p. 31, Household #458]. Haman Barber was enumerated as a 41 year old farmer (1819) on the 1860 Census of Johnston County, NC. Living with him were wife Lydia age 29 [39?] (1821), son Joseph age 17 (1843), daughter Jane age 14 (1846), daughter Caroline age 10 (1850), son Berry age 8 (1852), son Young age 7 (1853), son Gideon age 5 (1855), son Thomas age 2 (1858), and Lucinda Thomas age 50 (1810) [1860 Federal Census, Johnson County, NC, Dist. West of Neuse, p. 376, Household # 505/484]. Haman Barber served in Company B, 10th Battalion, Heavy Artillery (“The Black River Tigers”), North Carolina State Troops, CSA. In 1870, Hamon Barber was listed as a 51 year old farmer (1819), along with wife Lida age 49 (1821), daughter Jane age 22 (1848), daughter Caroline age 21 (1849), son Berry age 18 (1852), son Young age 16 (1854), son Gideon age 13 (1857), son Thomas age 10 (1860), and son Jefferson age 7 (1863). Living with them was Lucinda Thomas age 70 (1800) [1870 Federal Census, Johnston County, NC, Elevation Township, p. 392b , Household # 185]. On the 1880 Federal Census of Johnston County, Haman Barber was a 60 year old farmer (1820), listed with wife Lidey age 58 (1822), daughter Caroline age 28 (1852), and son Jefferson age 19 (1861). Boarders Gideon E. Barber age 24 (1856) and Bettie Matthews age 25 (1855) were residing with his family [1880 Federal Census, Johnston County, NC, Elevation Township, p. 391b, Household # 293/301].

4. Mary “Polly” A. Barber, b. March 9, 1825 Johnston County, NC [Woodall Family Record, Woodall-Dixon-Johnson Papers (PC 105), Johnston County Heritage Center, Smithfield, NC; gravestone], d. September 15, 1911 Johnston County, NC [gravestone]; md. February 8, 1851 Johnston County, NC, Jacob Flowers, Jr., b. October 22, 1820 Johnston County, NC [Coats family genealogy compiled by C. Stanton Coats], d. before 1860 Johnston County, NC, son of Jacob Flowers and Phereby Johnson; 2md. May 26, 1875 Johnston County, NC, Shadrach B. Lassiter, b. February 22, 1822 Johnston County, NC [gravestone], d. November 11, 1881 [gravestone] Johnston County, NC, son of William Lassiter and Lucy Stephenson. Polley Barber is listed age 26 (ca. 1824) in the household of her grandmother Mary “Polly” (Allen) Woodall on the 1850 census of Johnston County, NC [1850 Federal Census, Johnston County, NC, District 4, p. 31b, Household # 463]. On the 1860 census, she is listed as a 37 year old female (ca. 1823) with her son Jacob age 5 (1855) in the household of her mother-in-law Phereby (Johnson) Flowers age 85 (1775) [1860 Federal Census, Johnston County, Dist W of Neuse, p. 366, Household #363/342]. In 1870, she was listed as a 44 year old (1826) house servant in the household of her brother-in-law Abraham Dixon [1870 Federal Census, Johnston County, NC, Elevation Township, p. 392, Household # 177]. Her birth date is recorded as “Mary A. Flowers” in the Woodall-Dixon Family Record, as is that of her son Jacob A. Flowers [Woodall-Dixon-Johnson Papers (PC 105), Johnston County Heritage Center, Smithfield, NC]. On the Johnston County Marriage Register for her second marriage in 1875, her parents are incorrectly given as Jacob and Phereby Flowers. However, her obituary in the September 29, 1911 edition of the "Smithfield Herald" clarifies that she was married to Jacob Flowers and S. B. Lassiter. Buried in the Shadrach B. Lassiter Family Cemetery, Lassiter Road, Elevation Township, Johnston County, NC.
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=22...

5. Sarah Barber, b. April 7, 1827 Johnston County, NC [Abram Dixon Family Record, Woodall-Dixon-Johnson Papers (PC 105), Johnston County Heritage Center, Smithfield, NC], d. February 9, 1879 Johnston County, NC [Abram Dixon Family Record, Woodall-Dixon-Johnson Papers (PC 105), Johnston County Heritage Center, Smithfield, NC]; md. February 18, 1858 [Bond dated February 15, 1858] Johnston County, NC, Abram Dixon, b. September 24, 1817 Greene/Johnston County, NC [Abram Dixon Family Record, Woodall-Dixon-Johnson Papers (PC 105), Johnston County Heritage Center, Smithfield, NC], d. November 24, 1896 Johnston County, NC [Abram Dixon Family Record, Woodall-Dixon-Johnson Papers (PC 105), Johnston County Heritage Center, Smithfield, NC], son of Patrick Dixon and Delaney Hill. Sarah Barber is listed age 23 (ca. 1827) in the household of her grandmother Mary “Polly” (Allen) Woodall on the 1850 census of Johnston County, NC [1850 Federal Census, Johnston County, NC, District 4, p. 31b, Household # 463]. In 1860, Abram Dixon was listed as a 42 year old merchant (1818), along with wife Sarah age 32 (1828). Living with them was their niece Brazilla Barber age 21 (1839), daughter of Young and Rebecca (Jordan) Barber [1860 Federal Census, Johnston County, NC, Dist. West of Neuse, p. 389b, Household # 702/682]. On the 1870 Census, Abraham Dixon was 52 year old (1818) farmer and huckster, living with wife Sarah age 41 (1829), son Joseph Dixon age 7 (1863), Emily Barber age 20 (1850) daughter of Young and Rebecca (Jordan) Barber, and sister-in-law Polly Flowers age 44 (1826), who was listed as a house servant [1870 Federal Census, Johnston County, NC, Elevation Township, p. 392, Household # 177]. Abram Dixon is buried in Elevation United Methodist Church Cemetery, Elevation Road, Elevation Township, Johnston County, NC.
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSsr=41...;

Re: YOUNG A BARBER b.1818 m. REBECCA JORDAN 1838 JOHNSTON CO

Posted: 4 Jan 2013 9:53PM GMT
Classification: Query
westephens,

Thanks, that filled in much on my tree.

Re: YOUNG A BARBER b.1818 m. REBECCA JORDAN 1838 JOHNSTON CO

Posted: 4 Jan 2013 11:54PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: BARBER, JORDAN, WOODALL, DIXON, JOHNSON
I am most curious about your post. You mentioned Celia BARBER STANCIL sold over 100 acres of land previously owned by Drury BARBER yet there is NO mention of any land of Drury's ending up in the hands of his sons, Haman and Young A. in your post. Was this land given to her when she wed? How and when did Young and Haman get their land? They were all living side by side in 1850, right? Did Drury and his wife settle on Woodall land? Any idea where DRURY and his family are buried?

I see where a Lucy Johnson Dixon and hubby Lemuel Dixon are sandwiched between the boys, Haman and Young in the 1850 census. There is a record for a LUCY H DIXON marrying a GIDEON WOODALL in the 1870s. She is buried in the Elevation Church cemetery. Is the Gideon who put up the bond and acted as administrator and sold/settled Drury's estate one and the same GIDEON who married Lucy Johnson?

Do you know what faith these folks were? What faith were the Woodalls? When Celia and Alex Stancil married a JAMES WOODALL was BONDSMAN. Was this Celia's grandpa or uncle?

I found it most interesting Matthew Jordan did NOT choose a JORDAN to be executor of his estate, even though several of his sons were of legal age and very close in age to YOUNG A BARBER, husband to his daughter, Rebecca. Now I am wondering about YOUNG A BARBER's family connections?

From your post I can speculate the "A" in YOUNG A's name may have stood for ALLEN. Still trying to solve this mystery. Do you have any bible records or records of any kind which could solve this mystery?

Also, interested in your thoughts about GIDEON BARBER- do you think there were two and the 1880 one was not his Haman's son?

I have found where even an elderly father has been represented by some census takers in the vicinity as a "Boarder" or "farm help" or even "laborer". I haven't been able to find any other census record for Haman's son GIDEON in 1880 and the one listed as boarder is the exact age of his son. Interested in your thoughts?

Re: YOUNG A BARBER b.1818 m. REBECCA JORDAN 1838 JOHNSTON CO

Posted: 5 Jan 2013 1:48AM GMT
Classification: Query
Thanks MV66NC,you too filled in a lot on my tree with that info.
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