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GERARD ROBERT ELLYSON

GERARD ROBERT ELLYSON

Posted: 22 Aug 2000 11:49PM GMT
Edited: 25 Mar 2004 7:33PM GMT
GERARD ELLYSON WAS THE OLDEST CHILD OFDR. CAPTAIN ROBERT ELLYSON AND WIFE ELIZABETH.HE FOLLOWED HIS FATHER AS BEING A LAND OWNER IN NEW KENT COUNTY, VA.WHERE HE OWNED A LARE PLANTATION.GERARD MARRIED SARA CREW AND THEY HAD 6 DAUGHTERS AND 2 SONS, ROBERT ,WILLIAM, AGATHA ,HANNAH ,ELIZABETH, JUDIYH, CECILA, URSULA.THREE OF HIS CHIDREN MARRIED INTO MOTHER SARA'S FAMILY, MARRYING 'CREWS',TWO MARRIED 'LADDS', TWO MARRIED 'JOHNSONS', AND ONE AN 'ELMORE'.ALL THESE NAMES WERE PROMINET AMONGST THE 'QUAKERS'.GERARD INHERITED HIS FATHERS ESTATE. HE IS MENTIONED IN THE NEW KENT CO.'RECORD OF PATENTS. BOOK 7 P22'"SON HEIR IN 1688 OF PATENTED LANDS IN NEW KENT COUNTY, VA GRANTED TO ROBERT ELLYSON IN 1656, 577 ACRES.
GERARD BECAME A QUAKER ON 1/8/1700,JOINING THE HENRICO COUNTY SOCIETY OF FRIENDS.FROM THE HENRICO MONTHLY MEETING MINUTES 2/28/1700
"GERARD ELLYSON AND SARA ELLYSON WERE WITNESSESTO A MARRIAGE" FROM ALL INDICATIONS GERARD WAS ONLY MARRIED TO SARA CREW HIS ENTIRE LIFE.IN THE YEAR OF HIS DEATH 1750 HIS WIFE SARA IS MENTIONED IN HIS WILL AS SHE IS BEQUETHED THEIR SLAVE TAMAR WHO WAS LIVING WITH THEIR DAUGHTER URSALA,(RECORD BOOK OF HENRICO MONTHLY METTING 3/7/1750 EXTRA SOURCES INCLUDE "CREW AND ELLYSON GENEOLOGY" MY ANCESTRY TRACES THRU GERARDS SON ROBERT. MY GGGRANDMOTHER WAS MARTHA ANN ELLYSON WHO MARRIED SOLOMON WEAN. DOUG WEAN AT DWEAN1@MSN.COM

Gerard Robert Ellyson

Raenetta Ellyson Hayhurst (View posts)
Posted: 23 Aug 2000 6:32AM GMT
Do you have additional information about this line? If so are you willing to share? I am interested in learn more. I am also in Gerard's line through his son William. I have information on that line. hhrah@juno.com

Gerard Ellyson

L. Ellyson (View posts)
Posted: 30 Aug 2000 3:39PM GMT
Hey, this was very interesting to read. I am from New Kent County, VA. I was reading the other day about the land tax records for the Ellyson's in NK. If you have anymore information I would greatly appreciate it.

Re: GERARD ROBERT ELLYSON

Posted: 7 Jun 2002 6:12PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Ellyson, Ladd
There remains uncertainty over the identity of Robert Ellyson's wife. Some maintain that she was Elizabeth Gerrard, dau. of Thomas Gerrard, others that she was Hannah Gerrard, sister of Thomas. To my knowledge no one has been able to identify who his wife was. Robert died before 28 Sept 1671. He had two known children, Robert Gerrard/Garrett (b. abt 1643) and Hannah. Robert Gerrard married Anne Myhill and they were the parents of Gerrard Robert Ellyson (1671-1749). Gerrard Robert Ellyson married Sarah Spence bef. 28 April 1699/1700 which is the date of the earliest surviving mention of them in the Quaker Records. Robert and Sarah Spence had nine children, the oldest was Robert Ellyson who married Sarah Crews 8 March 1714/15. Robert Ellyson and Sarah Crews had four known children: Matthew, Joseph, Susannah and John. There is a lot of information around on the Internet, most of it incorrect and confusing.

Re: Gerard Ellyson

Posted: 24 Jul 2002 4:17PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: ELLYSON
I AM A DESENDANT OF THE GERARD CLAN I WAS WONDERING IF ANYONE HAS INFO ON PAYTON ELLISON/ELLYSON. THERE IS A SR . MARRIED TO NANCY MCDERMOTT, AND A JR. MARRIED TO LUCINDA SCOTT ANU ONE HAVE INFO PLEASE E-MAIL ME .
THANKS SHIRLEY

Re: GERARD ROBERT ELLYSON

Rocky Stones (View posts)
Posted: 26 Jul 2002 3:10AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: ALLISON, ELLYSON, ELISON, ALISON, YOUNG, STONES, ORAM, NAPIER
There does appear to be a lot of confusion but I believe that a pretty good source of this line would be:

The Elizabeth ALLISON ERVIN family bible.

Take note that the following is copyrighted:

59] BIBLE RECORDS
Front Page
ELIZABETH ALLISON ERVIN'S BIBLE
************************************
(This Bible has no section for births, marriages, deaths, but she used blank page to record following).
"My father, Robert Allison, passed 1772. (the name during long years has been spelt, Allyson, Ellison, Elison, Allison, etc.) My mother was Mary Lide or Lloyd, (dtr. to Robt. Lloyd from Wales to Penn. abt 1683).
My grparents were John Allison & Elizabeth Matthews of Va. He being son of
Robt Allison and Ann Myhill.
He being son of
Capt. Robt Allison & Hannah Gerard of Maryland & Va.
He being son of
Robt Allison & Sarah Spence of Va.
He Being son of
JOHN ALLISON, Ellyson b. Windyedge, county Lanark, Scotland, who marr'd with Ellin Hamilton & came to Va. in early days bef. 1625. The first ones of our family lived in Va.& Maryland.
I hereby name my Bros. & Sisters.........

Re: GERARD ROBERT ELLYSON

Posted: 26 Jul 2002 9:24AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Ellyson, Gerrard, Myhill, Spence, Crews, Ladd
It happens that I am a descendant of John Gerrard through his daughter Hannah and his son Thomas. I am also a descendant of John Ellyson. Hannah and Thomas Gerrard were immigrants as was John Ellyson. I also happen to be a descendant of William Ladd who married 10 Dec 1730 Ursulah Ellyson, d/o Gerard Robert Ellyson and his wife Sarah Spence.

I have earlier studied the complete text of the Erwin Bible entry. This bible record appears to be somewhat incorrect - not in the correct order . Please remember that this entry is written by one person. That she could correctly recall so many generations is rather astounding. Elizabeth Erwin wanted to record her family history, but that doesn't make it correct.

The Quaker records for the Henrico Monthly meeting mention Gerard Robert Ellyson and his wife Sarah when they acted as witnesses for the marriage of Thomas Loukford and Martha West dated 28th day, 2nd month 1700. This Sarah was most probably a descendant of William Spence who is found in James City County (James Island) as early as 1623. Gerard Robert Ellyson was the son of Robert Gerrard Ellyson (d. bef 1727) and his wife Anne Myhill (d. 7 Jan 1726/27).

Gerard Robert Ellyson and his wife Sarah Spence, found in the Henrico MM in 1700 had nine children. The oldest son, Robert Ellyson (b. abt 1694) married Sarah Crews 8 Mar 1714/15 (8 day, 1st mon., 1714).

It was Robert Ellyson (1615-bef. 1671), s/o John Ellyson and his wife Ellin Hamilton, who m. 1642 Hannah Gerrard. Their son Robert Gerrard Ellyson (1643-bef 7 Jun 1727) m. Anne Myhill (abt 1652-7 Jan 1726/27).

Gerard Robert Ellyson (1671-1749), s/o Robert Gerrard Ellyson and Ann Myhill, m. Sarah Spence. His brother, John Ellyson m. Elizabeth Matthews.

It was this Gerard Robert Ellyson (1671-1749) who married abt. 1694 Sarah Spence. The correct order is John Ellyson & Ellin Hamilton>Robert Ellyson & Hannah Gerrard>Robert Gerrard Ellyson & Anne Myhill>Gerard Robert Ellyson & Sarah Spence>Robert Ellyson & Sarah Crews.

I hope this is helpful for others who descend from these families.

Re: GERARD ROBERT ELLYSON

Posted: 21 Aug 2002 12:09PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 5 Apr 2004 9:13PM GMT
Surnames: Ellyson Spence
There is no evidence that the wife of Quaker Gerrard Robert Ellyson was Sarah Spence. She is only referred to as "Sarah" in the Quaker records. If you attempt to estimate the ages of John, Dr. Robert, and Gerrard Robert Sr, it is possible that there was another generation between John and Dr. Robert. This leads me to believe that perhaps Capt. Robert and Dr. Robert were father and son and not the same person. There is no way to prove this, one way or another.

Since Mrs. Irwin's accuracy as to her other ancestors seems to be accurate, is it reasonable to question one generation? We do not know the source of her information, only that she recorded it. Perhaps she did not do it from memory, but from another recorded source. I, too, descend from Quaker Gerrard Robert Ellyson, through his son William. Mrs. Irwin's record confirmed many suspicions that I have had for about 20 years.

Re: GERARD ROBERT ELLYSON

Posted: 21 Aug 2002 4:32PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Ellyson, Garrard
A John Allison/Ellison and his wife were living in the Virginia Colony in 1623. John would most likely be over 20 years of age at that time, probably born before 1600. If he is the father of (Dr.) Robert Ellyson, then he was most likely born 1595 or earlier. If he was the grandfather of (Dr.) Robert Ellyson, then probably born 1584 or earlier. Okay, so far.

There was a Sara Spence also recorded in the 1623 record. No age is indicated, but she was clearly not an infant, nor is she listed as the daughter of William Spence and his wife (who have an infant). Sara may have been the sister of William. If Sara was 8 years old, she could have married Robert Ellyson about 1636, but then their "son" (Dr. Robert Ellyson would only have been 4-5 years old when he began his practice in Maryland. However, I suspect that Sara - if she was William Spence's sister - would have been closer in age to her brother (possibly 17?). She may even have been William's widowed mother. (More on this further down)

At this point, I have doubts that (Dr.) Robert Ellyson was the son of the John Allison found in the Virginia Colony in 1623. Robert is not included in the 1623 listing. In fact, the first records of (Dr. Robert Ellyson appear in Maryland 1640-1641 when he begins his practice.

I have estimated the d.o.b. for Robert Ellyson, husband of Hannah Gerrard (b. abt. 1620), as 1615-1620. Their marriage probably took place 1642-1646 (Hannah arrived in 1641). There is also the possibility that Robert was already married, or "promised" in marriage to Hannah before they left England for Maryland.

In estimating (Dr.) Robert Ellyson's dob as 1615, he would be in his mid to late twenties when he arrives in Maryland. That he was in his late twenties is indicated by several records. His "medical" schooling would have been accomplished in England, Ireland or Scotland (prob. between 1630 and 1640 - he could begin at 16).

Robert Gerrard, son of (Dr.) Robert and Hannah Ellyson was most likely not born before 1650, probably 1651-1652, since he was appointed a guardian in 1672. Robert Gerrard's sister, Hannah married Col. Anthony Armistead before 1670 and was probably older than her brother, possibly born 1648-49 since her father gave her land when she married.

Now back to John Allison of VA.

It seems that Mrs. Erwin's written account may be the only record that a Robert Ellyson was the son of John Allison of the Virginia Colony and that he married a Sara Spence. I haven't found any conventional documentation for her statement, nor does she state her sources. If the John Allison found in VA in 1623 is the father of a Robert Ellyson who married the Sara Spence who is also present in 1623, why is Sara's surname still Spence in 1623? If a Robert Ellyson/Allison, son of John Allison of 1623, married Sara in 1623 or later, then (Dr.) Robert Ellyson would have - at the most - 16 years old when he began his practice in Maryland (not very probable). It is very unlikely that (Dr.) Robert Ellyson's wife Hannah was born later than 1620.

In fact, she was most likely born a year or two before 1620.

I am not the only one who questions the accuracy of Mrs. Erwin's writing and the Mills-Smith genealogy. There are other Ellyson-Garrard researchers who also believe that Mrs. Erwin has misinterpretated the order when placing Robert Ellyson and Sarah Spence. This could occur, for example, if she had
access to the 1623 list and made one or more assumptions.

I have not made any statements without a good deal of thought. I descend on my father's side through (Dr.) Robert Ellyson, his wife Hannah Gerrard and his son through to Ursulah Ellyson, d/o Gerard Robert and Sarah Ellyson, and wife of William Ladd (my ancestor). I also happen to be a descendant of Thomas Garrard through his dau. Susannah and her second husband Col. John Cody (Coade) on my mother's side, and am related to Thomas's daughter Elizabeth Garrard through descendants of her two daughters who married into the Mason family. It also happens that I have family connections with descendants of John Snow and Eydreth (Judith) Hill, parents of Susanna Snow (first wife of Thomas Gerrard). I have studied these families and what documents and publications I have been able to acquire over many years. While I would like to take Mrs. Erwin's account as complete, I have too many unanswered questions.

You are a descendant of William Ellyson, then you most probably are also a descendant/relation of the Hatton and Johnson families. If I recall correctly, Agnes Johnson (wife of William Ellyson) was the granddaughter of James Johnson and Barbara Hatton and William's sister Elizabeth Ellyson married John Johnson, jr. - Agnes' brother. And "my" Ursulah Ellyson was the younger sister of both :-)










Re: GERARD ROBERT ELLYSON

Posted: 6 Apr 2003 2:02AM GMT
Classification: Query
Thank you Sharon for your help in sorting out the various generations of Gerard Robert Ellyson. I only had two generations instead of three. The dates didn't make sense and I didn't know what to do with all three wives!




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