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Cravens 1902

Cravens 1902

Posted: 23 Oct 2013 1:32AM GMT
Classification: Query
My great-grandfather was born John Winfred Craven/Cravens in Blackfoot Idaho. His parents and his family migrated to Oklahoma and were all murdered in an Indian raid between 1905 and 1909. He was the only one supposedly to survive and was adopted by the Collier family, who's farm the tragedy happened near. He was born November 1902.

The state didn't record births at this time. Would there be any records in Blackfoot that would have his birth?

Re: Cravens 1902

Posted: 26 Oct 2013 5:18AM GMT
Classification: Query
You might look for a newspaper account, or a baptism record. What were the first names of his adoptive parents, and where in Oklahoma did they live? There may be a newspaper account of the incident which might list his parents names.

Re: Cravens 1902

Posted: 26 Oct 2013 4:07PM GMT
Classification: Query
His adoptive parents were John Mitchell Clark Collier and Izella Grace Swift Collier. In 1900 they were in Kickapoo and South Wichita Townships in the Lincoln area of Oklahoma Territory. By 1910 they were in Colorado and John is listed with them as their son. He was born November 11, 1903.

My grandmother says he was a boy old enough to remember his last name and birth date and that he was born in Blackfoot, Idaho. She says her father told her it happened in Oklahoma for certain. So I'm assuming at least 5 years old when it happened, but that's my assumption.

Re: Cravens 1902

Posted: 27 Oct 2013 6:26PM GMT
Classification: Query
Do you know his biological parents' names?

Re: Cravens 1902

Posted: 27 Oct 2013 8:25PM GMT
Classification: Query
No I don't. That's what I'm searching for. All I know is he said his last name was Cravens.

Re: Cravens 1902

Posted: 27 Oct 2013 9:56PM GMT
Classification: Query
I see some references in old books to the local papers around that time being the "Idaho News" and the "Blackfoot News". The current local paper there is the Blackfoot Morning News, phone number 208-785-1100. The number to the Bingham County Historical Society is 208-785-9906. If you want to make a few calls and figure out if any of them have 1902 newspapers in possession, I don't mind driving down there and looking through their archives for 1902 birth records. "Craven" is a name I've seen around this area, not so much "Cravens" but who knows.

Re: Cravens 1902

Posted: 5 Nov 2013 7:07PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thank you very much for the information!!
I found his real birth date, November 11, 1903 (1903 matches SSDI). It was written in a family bible my grandmother had.

My grandmother said Cravens, but she's only mentioned it to me one time. The first time she told me the story she asked if I'd heard anything about it and I said no so she assumed it was false. Then randomly brought it up again last Fourth of July saying she knows her father went by that name once or twice. It seems like either unintentionally or intentionally there's a lot of detail being left out of the story.

If you happen to make the drive that would be wonderful, but please don't trouble yourself for the high chance we could find nothing since there's so many holes in this story.

Thank you again!

Re: Cravens 1902

Posted: 15 Nov 2013 3:12AM GMT
Classification: Query
Sarah, I started some microfilm checking on another project today at the Blackfoot library. They have old newspapers on record back to the 1890's, next time I go, one day next week, I will look at November 1903 and see if any birth announcements were put in the paper then. The Bingham Historical Society Museum is hardly ever open, but I did make contact with the director today about my project. They will open up in a few weeks for a Christmas display, and at that time I can see what kind, if any, records they have on Craven(s) in 1903. There was a big rush for land in that area in 1902, where a lot of people showed up and "staked their claims" to land so to speak. Any idea when they arrived in the Blackfoot area, maybe from the bible?
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