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John Murphy death

Posted: 3 Jun 2013 7:11PM GMT
Classification: Query
I'm trying to find a death certificate or obit for my great great grand father so I can find his grave. The problem is I have no idea when he died. I can't track him down in the 1940 census and my grandfather doesn't seem to remember going to a funeral so between 1930 and forty would be my guess.

He was born in Wales, GB around 1870, moved to Boston for a while and married a woman named Mary then they moved to Brooklyn. They had 9 children (Bridgette and Edward predeceased) Eileen (Lockwood), Lillian (Mertens) , Eva (McLoughlin), Grace (McDonald) , Dorothy, Vincent and John.

Help would be appreciated.

Re: John Murphy death

Posted: 4 Jun 2013 7:06PM GMT
Classification: Query
Someone with the family tree posted at ancestry.com has his death date as May 8,1935 And Name John J. Murphy And Wifes Middle Initial as Mary A.Murphy.

Re: John Murphy death

Posted: 4 Jun 2013 7:38PM GMT
Classification: Query
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/26491409/person/12821005004?s...

This one? That's not him. Only a few of the children match.

Any other suggestions?

Re: John Murphy death

Posted: 5 Jun 2013 9:35PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 5 Jun 2013 9:37PM GMT
Surnames: Murphy
There was a John Murphy arrived New York on the "MINNETONKA" from London on 3rd Aug 1924

He was aged 53, b 1871 Cowbridge, near Cardiff, Wales.
His occupation was Groom (for horses, I think) and his last residence was RUGBY. His closest relative was Mrs Fitzgerald of Blue Bell Inn, Cowbridge, Cardiff.

Were the children born in USA?

Roughly when John he go to USA?

Re: John Murphy death

Posted: 6 Jun 2013 1:00AM GMT
Classification: Query
John arrived in the 1880s as a child according to the census' but I don't know anything about his family or life before America. I did find out his wife Mary's maiden name was McGlue. They got married in Boston and their two eldest children were born there. The rest were born in Brooklyn, NY.

Re: John Murphy death

Posted: 6 Jun 2013 2:34AM GMT
Classification: Query
Here is their marriage at familysearch, listing his parents as Edward and Eliza
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N47G-DMG

Re: John Murphy death

Posted: 6 Jun 2013 2:50AM GMT
Classification: Query
You can search the New York death index here - I narrowed down all John Murphy's who died in Kings County from 1930-1940. As you can see, there are four pages of results. You could further narrow it down by printing it out and only looking at those who were between 60 and 70 years of age. A daunting task (why oh why did our relatives pick such common names)!
http://www.italiangen.org/NYCDeathresults.asp?kind=exact&...
Do you know where his children who pre-deceased him are buried - that may be a starting point.

Re: John Murphy death

Posted: 6 Jun 2013 2:57AM GMT
Classification: Query
wow I hadn't even thought to try and look that up! Thanks! By any chance can you read the hometowns of Mary and John?

Re: John Murphy death

Posted: 6 Jun 2013 3:07AM GMT
Classification: Query
I know right? Actually I was going to try this as a last resort but was hoping anyone else had better ideas. Bridgette died as an infant and Edward died between the 1910 and 1915 census (if I had to take a guess this is him,
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?ssrc=pt_t33825422...

Since the family was pretty solidly rooted in Brooklyn until the elder Murphys died I would assume they were buried in Brooklyn cemeteries.

Re: John Murphy death

Posted: 6 Jun 2013 3:23AM GMT
Classification: Query
It just looks like they were from Boston, John born in Wales, Mary in Ireland.
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