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How can I find if somebody died at sea?

How can I find if somebody died at sea?

Posted: 19 Jan 2013 3:47PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 20 Jan 2013 5:08PM GMT
Surnames: Smith
Walter Charles Smith died between April 1911 and mid 1912. On the 1911 census he was "at sea". I've no idea where he sailed to or from, or what ship etc. He lived in Newport, Gwent, South Wales. He was listed as a Merchant Clerk on the 1901 Census so this is all I know. I cannot find any death certificate for him. If he died at sea, would there be any sort of record or death certificate I could find here? Also, how do I find what he did at sea? Would there any record of when/where he joined up??
I would really appreciate any help on this as im really stuck and ready to give up :-(
Thank you in advance for any replies.

Re: How can I find if somebody died at sea?

Posted: 20 Jan 2013 5:09PM GMT
Classification: Query

Re: How can I find if somebody died at sea?

Posted: 23 Jan 2013 3:15AM GMT
Classification: Query
I had the same problem, but you my like to go to "Find my Past" I hunted for my great grandfather for many years and found that he died in Argentina, he took sick on one of his voyages, he sailed out of Swansea Wales.

Re: How can I find if somebody died at sea?

Posted: 4 Feb 2013 11:20PM GMT
Classification: Death
Edited: 5 Feb 2013 3:25PM GMT
Surnames: Smith
Really stuck and ready to give up !, what a load of guff, give up pretty easily, don't you. ?!

Why bother if it's such a chore. ?

Walter C Smith died on 7th August 1912 on board the ship Nador, offcial ships regisistration number 98537.

He was a 29 year old steward, address 10 Liverpool Street, Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales, who was also born in Newport, Monmouthshire.

He died whilst the ship was tied up at the quayside at the New Jetty, in Blyth, Northumberland.

He fell from the gangway onto the jetty and then into the water.

Registration event: death
Name:SMITH, Walter C
Date of death:7 August 1912
Age:29
Place of death:New Jetty Blyth
Place of birth: Newport, Monmouthshire
Belonging to service:Crew
Ship's name:Nador
Series:
BT334 - Registers and Indexes of Births, Marriages and Deaths of Passengers and Seamen at Sea
Box:0056
Page:

Return of Deaths at Sea, reported to the Registrar General of Shippind and Seamen under the provisions of the Merchant Shopping Act 1894 during the month of August 1912.

*******************
Registration event: Death
Name: SMITH, Walter C
Vessel : Nador
Country: At sea
Year: 1912
Page: 155
Age at death: 29
Record source: GRO Marine Death Indices (1903 to 1965)

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

Re: How can I find if somebody died at sea?

Posted: 15 Feb 2013 7:46PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 15 Feb 2013 8:11PM GMT
Thank you so much "infosending1" for this information, thats brilliant!

It's not that I give up easily, or that its a chore, Im just not as experienced as I'd like to be with this. I really dont know where to start looking for things if I cant find it on ancestry.co.uk so any pointers in the right direction would be great :-)

Thank you again for taking the time to help me with Walter, it is a massive help! You are a star!!

Re: How can I find if somebody died at sea?

Posted: 16 Feb 2013 2:09AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Smith
This post was deleted by the author on 5 Dec 2013 9:00AM GMT

Re: How can I find if somebody died at sea?

Posted: 16 Feb 2013 9:16PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Smith
Thank you again, so much for your help and advice on this infosending1.
I do have the box ticked to send me an alert if I get a reply, but it isn't working so I'll check that out.
I think I've got all the info on Walter now that you kindly helped me out with the death details, and I'm slowly getting there working on his ancestors now. I was confused as I couldn't find a death cert on ancestry for him. I only knew he was "at sea" as his wife stated it on the 1911 census. I had no idea where to start looking for info on his death.
I really dont want to be a pain in the bum as you have been very kind and more than helpfull already, but could you maybe point me in the right direction with looking for peoples military service/records. My Dad keeps on to me to trace his Grandfathers records but I dont have a clue where to start. I have photos on ancestry of him and his regiment, and my Dad remembers that he had several medals, but we have no idea what for etc. I know this is all really vague, but it's all we have to go on.
I'm sorry if I'm being a pain (I'm honestly not as thick as I must sound), and thank you once again for the help you have already given me, it is much appreciated :-)

Re: How can I find if somebody died at sea?

Posted: 17 Feb 2013 4:29AM GMT
Classification: Query
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Re: How can I find if somebody died at sea?

Posted: 17 Feb 2013 4:06PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Smith
Thank you so much "again" for all the suggestions listed in your reply, this will help me a lot with my family tree.

I'm sorry to hear that somebody has been rude to you. Some people feel the need to be abusive to others in order to feel better about themselves. Its very sad, but its probably brightened someones day in their boring, mundane life by having a pop at you.....aww, bless them.

Anyway, back to Walter. Sorry I didn't explain properly. His wife Lilian Mary Watkins/Smith of 97 Duckpool Road, Newport was on the 1911 census, and stated "husband at sea".
Yes, I have a copy of their Marriage Certificate.

I think I'll take your advice and start a new thread on the military enquiry. My Dad's Grandad was William "Bill" King born 19 Feb 1874 in Radnorshire. I have pretty much all the easy info, eg birth, marriage, death and census etc.
In his obituary it stated that he was a volunteer in the Boer War and too old to serve in the 1914-18 war. He was a member of the Militia which formed the Guard of Honour for King Edward VII, when he opened the Elan Valley Reservoirs on 21st July 1904, and was the last surviving member of that Guard of Honour. That's the only information we have other than a photo of William and other soldiers in the Newbridge Div - K Co. Montgomeryshire Yeomanry taken in 1903. As I said before, my Dad remembers that "Bill" had lots of medals (he was left these in his will, but an "Evil" Auntie took them) :-(.

I don't think I've got a lot to go on with "Bill", but as you know I'm not too experienced with looking outside of Ancestry. I will start a new thread though, and see if anything comes from that.

Thanks once again for your brilliant advice, and for taking the time out to reply to my posts.

Re: How can I find if somebody died at sea?

Posted: 18 Feb 2013 4:14AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Smith King
This post was deleted by the author on 5 Dec 2013 9:00AM GMT
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