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MOSBY or MOSEBY

Posted: 19 Nov 2012 5:51AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Moseby Mosby Marrs
I'm seeking information about James Wesley Mosby (Moseby) b 1848 in Wash. County Ark and died in 1926 in Oklahoma. James married Martha Emmaline Marrs, and served in the Civil War. I'm looking for information about James' parents and siblings.

The 1850 census shows James, at 2 years old, living with an Elizabeth Mosby (presumably his mother), and several other children. The only mention of a James Mosby in 1860 is living with James & Isabel "Man" (likely this is Marr or Mars). In the 1870 census I only found him working as a laborer for the Kelly family, also in Wash County. I can't find Elizabeth Mosby or the other kids in any subsequent census.

I've seen trees that indicate the father is John Singleton Mosby, however I don't believe that to be true. Singleton Mosby would have been 15 years old at the time of James' birth, and younger than that at the time of James' older brother John's birth. In addition, Singleton Mosby's genealogy has been well-traced and the formal record shows no mention of a stop to have illegitimate kids in Arkansas.

Any insight you may have would be welcome!

Re: MOSBY or MOSEBY

Posted: 19 Nov 2012 10:53PM GMT
Classification: Query

I’m not related to any member of this family.

1940 is the last available census at this time.

This is the problem with early census records -

Facts you should know about the early census records -
All census records [1790 – 1840] prior to the 1850 census ONLY listed the head of household; whether male or female.

NO specific age was stated for any family member
NO place of birth was stated – city, state, or country
NO city, town, or village is stated – only the county; however some census takers listed the township
NO street address was stated
NO marital status was stated – single, married, widowed, or divorced
NO family relationship was stated – brother, sister, cousin, son, daughter, wife, inlaw, etc…
NO occupation was stated
NO parental birthplaces are stated
NO race was stated [but assume “white”]

1850, 1860 & 1870 census records do not show family relationships, marital status or parental birthplaces.

Step children are not enumerated as “step” children
Adopted children are not enumerated as “adopted”
Grand children are not enumerated as “grand children”
Orphaned children were not enumerated as "orphan"

1850 is the 1st census that shows all family members

1880 is the 1st census that shows parental birthplaces and family relationships +++


ARK Vital Records -
ARK required birth & death registrations - 1914
When did ARK begin to issue birth & death certificates?? 1914

Are there any restrictions to ordering these records??? Yes, we have eligibility requirements for each record type. Death records over 50 years old are open and do not have restrictions.

How far back do the marriage records go = 1917

OK Vital Records -
OK began filing original birth and death records in October of 1908. It was not mandatory until 1917 that these records be filed and of course the earlier years are sketchy.

Additional information regarding birth and death records is available at the official website.

http://www.ok.gov/health/Birth_and_Death_Certificates/index....


1850 -
Name: James Moseby
Age: 2
Birth Year: abt 1848
Birthplace: Arkansas
Home in 1850: Marrs Hill, Washington, Arkansas
Gender: Male

Elizabeth Moseby 29, TN
John Moseby 12, ARK
Mary Moseby 9, ARK
William Moseby 6, ARK
Sarah Moseby 5, ARK
James Moseby 2, ARK

1860 -
Name: James Morby
[James Mosby]
Age in 1860: 11
Birth Year: abt 1849
Birthplace: Arkansas
Home in 1860: Marrs Hill, Washington, Arkansas
Gender: Male
Post Office: Fayetteville

James Man 70, KY
Isabel Man 21, ARK
James Morby 11, ARK

1870 -
Name: James Mosby
Age in 1870: 23
Birth Year: abt 1847
Birthplace: Arkansas
Home in 1870: Prairie, Washington, Arkansas
Race: White
Gender: Male
Post Office: Fayetteville

William Kelly 45, TN - farmer
C A Kelly 24, KY [most likely the dau & NOT the wife]
J A Kelly 13, ARK
H L Kelly 7, ARK
F W Kelly 2, ARK
James Mosby 23, ARK

1880 -
Name: James Moseby
Age: 29
Birth Year: abt 1851
Birthplace: Arkansas
Home in 1880: Prairie, Washington, Arkansas
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Martha E. Moseby
Father's Birthplace: Tennessee
Mother's Birthplace: Arkansas
Occupation: Farmer

James Moseby 29, ARK - farmer
Martha E. Moseby 24, ARK
Elnetta Moseby 6, ARK
Nora E. Moseby 1, ARK

1900 -
Name: James Mosby
Age: 54
Birth Date: abt 1846
Birthplace: Arkansas
Home in 1900: Township 24, Cherokee Nation, Indian Territory
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Martha E Mosby
Occupation: farmer

James Mosby 54, 3/46 ARK
Martha E Mosby 44, 12/33 ARK - 10 children & 9 living
James Mosby 18, 5/82 ARK
Katie Mosby 13, 5/87 ARK
Franklin Mosby 10, 12/89 ARK
Houston Mosby 9, 4/91 ARK
Gussie E Mosby 4, 11/95 ARK
Clifford Mosby 2, 10/97 IT



1910 -
Name: James Mosby
Age in 1910: 62
Birth Year: abt 1848
[1848]
Birthplace: Arkansas
Home in 1910: Township 6, Delaware, Oklahoma
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Marital Status: Married =
Spouse's Name: Martha E Mosby
Father's Birthplace: Tennessee
Mother's Birthplace: Arkansas

James Mosby 62, ARK - 2nd marriage
Martha E Mosby 52, ARK - 10 children & 8 living
Charles Franklin Mosby 20, ARK
Henry Houston Mosby 17, ARK
Gussie Edward Mosby 14, ARK
Mat Clifford Mosby 11, ARK





marriage record -
Arkansas Marriages, 1820-1949
Name: James Mosby
Spouse: Martha E. Marrs
Marriage Date: 15 Jun 1873
County: Washington


Did James Mosby marry his cousin Martha E. Marrs???





Re: MOSBY or MOSEBY

Posted: 20 Nov 2012 1:54AM GMT
Classification: Query
James' father died abt 1850, best I can tell. His mother either died or disappeard prior to the 1860 census (not sure what happened to the other children yet). James then went to live with the Mars family (not Mans as shown in the record - typical misspell). I'm not yet aware of a blood relation there, but it would not surprise me. After all, Isaac & Catherine Marrs (Martha's grandparents) were also kissin' cousins.

Re: MOSBY or MOSEBY

Posted: 20 Nov 2012 12:12PM GMT
Classification: Query
Look at the 1910 again.

James indicated that he had been married 2 times.
WHO is the 1st wife??

I think James married 2 women named Martha E. so it will be hard to distinguish which children belong to which wife.

1910 census states that James had been married 40 yrs.
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