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Ferdinand Albert Hackbart

Ferdinand Albert Hackbart

Posted: 6 Jul 2013 2:30PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: HACKBART
Ferdinand Albert Hackbart
Birth 25 Jan 1843 in Koltoz, Pommern, Germany
Death 25 Feb 1920 in Seward , Nebraska

He lived in Illinois and was married to Augusta Wergin and move to Seward Nebraska in 1883.

I have had no luck on fining his parents or other family members before him any help would be appreciated.

Re: Ferdinand Albert Hackbart

Posted: 7 Jul 2013 7:50PM GMT
Classification: Query
The place is in Poland. You should post your query there. Lots of Polish parish records are online now. Someone might be able to give you some directions.

Re: Ferdinand Albert Hackbart

Posted: 10 Jul 2013 3:40PM GMT
Classification: Query
This might be yours:
Here's a "F.H. Hackbart", born c.1842, arriving in NY on 20 June 1868 aboard the "Humboldt" out of Hamburb. http://castlegarden.org/quick_search_detail.php?p_id=5247223

The Hamburg Passenger List has the same info, and gives "Langenhagen, Prussia" as his residence in Germany. If you have access to Ancestry, you can look at the original page, which as a mark connecting him to the next name which looks like "Wilh (Wilhelm) Hepp (possibly Hopp)", born 1840. That mark usually means they were family, or at least traveling together.

As a guess, this might be his naturalization index card https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-14904-43141-83?cc...

Re: Ferdinand Albert Hackbart

Posted: 12 Jul 2013 2:20AM GMT
Classification: Query
Michael,

What is your source for Koltoz, Pommern being his
town of birth?

Do you have his obituary? Church burial record? German language obituary - i.e. where there any German language newspapers in Seward?

I presume the family was evang. luth?

Have you checked the church records in Ottawa, LaSalle, IL
for his church marriage record - it should list his parents
names which will help give you additional corroborative (sp?) proof when you find his baptismal record in Pommern.

Tell us what you have checked on or researched so we know
what to suggest or recommend to you.

Bob Behnen

Re: Ferdinand Albert Hackbart

Posted: 13 Jul 2013 1:41PM GMT
Classification: Query
The source for the birth area was his Obituary – but no parents’ names were listed – I found his grave site but no other info on that. Yes he was Lutheran – how do I access the church records?

Re: Ferdinand Albert Hackbart

Posted: 13 Jul 2013 5:40PM GMT
Classification: Query
Michael,

You need to find the Hackbard/Wergin church marriage record in La Salle Co, IL. Contact the following group and ask them if these records are available and what information the record provides:

http://www.lscgg.org/

According to the Illinois marriage index on-line, they were married on April 27, 1877 in La Salle Co, IL. The "church" marriage record will hopefully indicate their parents names.

Then, go back and review the messages from Jim Baker and I from last September! I checked out the obituary and the town name is listed as Kolotz not Koltoz! Big difference. The town name was actually Kollatz - today known as Kolacz.

Jim noted Ferdinand's baptism at Nemrin. At the following website you will see that Nemrin was a town that belonged to the parish of Kollatz and thus, Ferdinand would have been baptized there:

http://nemrin.kollatz.kreis-belgard.de/

Kollatz was in the county of Belgard in Pommerania - check out the following map for location:

http://hinterpommern.de/Karten/Belgard/gemeinden.html

Then Jim pointed you towards the immigration record of the Wergin family. I checked the passenger records and they are noted as coming from Zitzmark. Actually, the town's names was Zitzmar and here are the details which note that the people in this town attended church at Zirkwitz.

http://zitzmar.kreis-greifenberg.de/

Fortunately, these records survive and are available online through the LDS church on familysearch.org In fact, I was able to find the marriage of August Friedrich Gotthilf Wergin and Johanne Wilhelmine Charlotte Bartelt in 1857:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18355-6881-44?cc=...

So, to sum up, you have had luck in finding them (or at least Jim Baker did) but you appear reluctant to accept the info - I am not sure why.

Perhaps, you will go back and review his messages (and mine). I would encourage you to inquire of Jim where he located the info on Ferdinand as I was not able to locate that information myself. Presumably, he has access to the Kollatz church records.

Best of luck in your continued research. There are lots of records to dig through and answers to be found now that you know where to dig.

Bob Behnen
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