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The Viking Claw

The Viking Claw

Posted: 8 Aug 2009 4:59PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 9 Aug 2009 1:16PM GMT
Surnames: Tough
My relative in Northern England asked a curious question a few years ago. Did anyone on this side of the puddle have a Viking Claw? It is correctible by surgery today but the hand usually begins bend into the shape of a claw...now...I have a toe with that problem. My mother called a few months ago...her doctor asked if there was any Danish, Norwegian, etc. ancestry because what was wrong with her hand seems to be confined to those with that ancestry! There is a story of a Tough who married a Viking...way back when...

Sharon

Re: The Viking Claw

Posted: 23 Aug 2009 12:55AM GMT
Classification: Query
Are you speaking of Dupuytren's Contracture? If so, yes...I am familioar with it. It seems to run in my family (Cadwell side) and has not skipped a generation to my knowledge.

Re: The Viking Claw

Posted: 23 Aug 2009 10:53AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 23 Aug 2009 6:35PM GMT
Surnames: Tough, Clazey
One of these days, I want to check out a DNA analysis. I know from speaking to John Tough in County Durham, this has not skipped any generation on that side of the puddle. On this side, my mother has it as do I. Her mother was Laura May Tough Clazey.

Thank you for the reply...may prove to be a helpful tracking tool!

Sharon

Re: The Viking Claw

Posted: 29 Aug 2009 12:15PM GMT
Classification: Query
Well Then if your foot has it as does mine and my grannie's foot too now my dad doesn't have it but, his brother lost use in his hand before he died. so now what, Granny was Georgina Tough daughter of John Tough Son of John Tough Son of Alexander Tough and after this it gets difficult seems none of them kept their children long and shipped them to relatives K

Re: The Viking Claw

Posted: 29 Aug 2009 1:29PM GMT
Classification: Query
Where were these all originally from? And where are you now? I am in Jacksonville, Florida and have found one in my line alive and well in County Durham, UK...also a John Tough.

Sharon

Re: The Viking Claw

Posted: 29 Aug 2009 1:55PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 29 Aug 2009 2:16PM GMT
Surnames: Duchemin, Taquet, Tough
I live in Texas now, but my family was from northern Michigan originally. My maternal great grandfather Felix Duchemin came from Cap Sante, Quebec. His father, Francois Duchemin had come from France. Francois married Galadie Taquet (Tough)who was born in 1806. That's my connection to the Tough clan.

As for the Viking Claw, I wound this description on the internet.

"Dupuytren's contracture is a fairly common disorder of the fingers. It most often affects the ring or little finger, sometimes both, and often in both hands. Although the exact cause is unknown, it occurs most often in middle-aged, white men and is genetic in nature, meaning it runs in families. This condition is seven times more common in men
than women. It is more common in men of Scandinavian, Irish, or Eastern European ancestry. Interestingly, the spread of the disease seems to follow the same pattern as the spread of Viking culture in ancient times. The disorder may occur suddenly but more commonly progresses slowly over a period of years. The disease usually doesn't cause symptoms until after the age of forty."

This seems to hold true in our family on the Cadwell side, not the Duchemin side. That I find intersting. My Cadwell (Caldwell) ancestors came from Cornwall although Cadwell is a Welsh surname. Although I have not done the DNA study I suspect that our ancestors must have come from Viking stock at some point. I can trace us back on the paternal side to at least 1730 and don't find any marriages to surnames that seem to be Nordic. It must be further back than the early 1700's.

Re: The Viking Claw

Posted: 30 Aug 2009 12:27PM GMT
Classification: Query
I am in Canada Granny born in Boharm 1902 and her dad in Mortlach John 1866 and his dad John 1830 and his dad 1808 this is as far back as I have done seems to be some trouble with who his father was mainly documents being missing. I do know that they were sent off with relatives at young ages and then returned to family perhaps when the father returned home he was a traveller (1808) Alexander Tough. K

Re: The Viking Claw

Posted: 1 Sep 2009 9:26AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 2 Sep 2009 1:44PM GMT
Surnames: Tough, Keith
We are stuck at about the same time as you are. My one relative in Northumberland has spent hours combing through records to verify father of Peter Tough. One researcher is pretty sure Peter's father was a John Tough and the Alexander Tough, a witness at the wedding of Peter Tough and Ann Keith in 1832 was Peter's brother. We began looking at that possibility based on naming patterns...Peter and Ann's first son was named John Kidd Tough...and the names, John, James and Alexander repeat throughout the generations.

Sharon

Re: The Viking Claw

Posted: 1 Sep 2009 11:01AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 2 Sep 2009 3:49PM GMT
Surnames: Tough, Stewart, Stuart, Smith
I can't seem to keep the spelling right either on 1841 census they are touch and before that all documents tough Mine seem to always have connections with stewart/stuart and smith if that helps K
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