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Whyte or White Family

Posted: 26 Feb 2012 6:29PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello. My name is Marijean Whyte. I am looking for the Whyte or White family. I know I have a lot of relatives in New Brunswick area. My dad is from New Brunswick (Miramichi I believe). His name was Frank Regneil Whyte. He was born on August 13 1934? (not positive on the year). He moved out the Victoria BC. I know he had a lot of brothers and sisters. One I remember was Winnie Stewart. She lived in Miramichi New Brunswick too I believe.

Any info would help. My dad told me that we had family members with the spelling Whyte and White.

Thank you
Marijean Whyte

Re: Whyte or White Family

Posted: 26 Feb 2012 8:27PM GMT
Classification: Query
Winnifred Anabell White daughter of John Reginald White and Mary Esther Ullock
married Baptist Parsonage Newcastle NB 13 July 1949
Claude Lewis Stewart son of Irving Stewart and Violet Joyce

Hope this help

Re: Whyte or White Family

Posted: 29 Feb 2012 4:58AM GMT
Classification: Query
WHYTE, Frank Regneal; ; Qualicum Beach BC; Victoria T-C; 2005-12-20; zac

Whyte, Frank Regneal
WHYTE, Frank Regneal Frank passed gently into the light, December 15th, at
home, in the loving embrace of his family. Now that he's got to where he was
going, on the far side of the sky, the first thing that he'll do is spread
his wings and fly. Frank is survived by wife Laurie, daughters: Brianna,
Marijean, Tammie and Iris, grandchildren, sisters, brothers, and family and
friends too numerous to list. Flowers gratefully declined as your friendship
and love throughout his life meant more to him. Donations in lieu of flowers
to Equine Rescue and Recovery Centre, 5500 West Island Highway, Qualicum
Beach, B.C. V9K 2C8 188218
Published in the Victoria Times-Colonist from 12/20/2005 - 12/21/2005.

JOHN REGINALD WHYTE (WHITE) b. Newcastle, Newcastle Parish, Northumberland Co., NB 24DEC1907 (ca. 1908), m. Baptist Parsonage, Newcastle, Newcastle Parish, Northumberland Co., NB 22MAY 1922 MARY ESTHER ULLOCK (b. Chatham, Chatham Parish, Northumberland Co., NB ca. 1909), d/o Frank and Molly (Springer) Ullock.
John was the son of William James and Susan McDonald (Susanne, Susie) (Beckwith) Whyte.

William James Whyte was b. Newcastle, Newcastle Parish, Northumberland Co., NB ca. 1880-2. He was the s/o John and Mary (Richardson) White. He is given as b. 23SEP1879 in the 1901 census of Newcastle Parish, and his mother, Mrs. John White, as b. 15MAR1855; however the birth-dates in that census are unreliable. His father had died by then. By 1911 "N. L." White (b. DEC1881) is married to Susan (b. OCT1886), with children: Annie (NOV1904), William A. (JAN1909), John R. (DEC1908) and Emery P. (JAN1910.)

According to the 1891 census of Newcastle Parish, John F. White (b. ca. 1845) was born in England. Mary (b. ca. 1845) was born in New Brunswick as were her parents. He was Anglican and she was Roman Catholic suggesting a possible Acadian connection. Children were Sarah J. (18), William J. (11), Alice E. (9) and John F. (8.)
In 1881 John F. White was age 38 and Mary was age 36. Children were Sarah J. (8), Wm James (1) and Alice E. (0), b. MAR1881.
Mary may not have been his first wife. Catherine Martha White b. ca. 1849, d/o James and Mary Taylor, d. Rosebank, Northumberland Co., NB MAY1876. She was the widow of John F. White. This would explain the 7-year gap in ages between Sarah J. White and William James White. When Sarah married in 1895 Henry Gordon, she gave her mother as Martha. John F. White and Martha C. Taylor were married St. Andrew's Church, Newcastle 27MAY1872. Such interchanges of names is all too usual.

A Jane White b. Maryport, England ca. 1807, d. Bathurst, Gloucester Co., NB MAR1883. She was the widow of John White. It is unlikely they were John's parents, but the possibility is worth keeping in mind. Jane came to New Brunswick in 1840.

Mary Richardson was very likely the same b. ca. 1856 in the 1871 census of Nelson Parish, Northumberland Co., NB, d/o James (b. England ca. 1823) and Alice (b. ca. 1827) Richardson. The mother, Alice, was Irish and Roman Catholic and James Richardson was also Roman Catholic; which rather shoots down my Acadian ancestry theory. James may be the James Richardson of South Nelson who died AUG1874.

Susan Beckwith was b. Newcastle, Newcastle Parish, Northumberland Co., NB ca. 1883. the d/o Charles and Annie Beckwith. By 1901, her mother, Annie (b. 1MAR1868) had remarried to John Ruth (b. 1860.) Susan was given as b. 26OCT1883 and her siblings were William (14OCT1886), Georgie (Naomi Georgiana b. 12JUL1888 (11JUL1889 in 1901), daughter) and May (Ida May b. 12JUL1892 (12JUL1891 in 1901)) Beckwith. Half siblings were Eva (14JUN1895) and Hubert (14NOV1897) Ruth. Susan McDonald Beckwith was b. Millstream, Northumberland Co., NB 26OCT1884 the d/o Charles Emery and Ann Isabel (Black) Beckwith. Her father was from Scotland and her mother from Kouchibouquac, NB. Charles Beckwith, m. Kouchibouquac, Kent Co., NB 9JUL1883 Annie Black, d/o Richard Black. They were married by the Rev. William Aitken, father of Max Aitken, 1st Lord Beaverbrook. Charles was likely the same who d. SEP1894 and whose funeral was conducted, probably in Newcastle, by the Salvation Army, of which he was likely a member.

Children:

1. WINNIFRED ANABELL WHITE, m. Baptist Parsonage, Newcastle, Newcastle Parish, Northumberland Co., NB 13JUL1949 CLAUDE LEWIS STEWART, s/o Irving and Violet (Joyce) Stewart.

2. SHIRLEY ARLENE WHYTE b. Newcastle, Newcastle Parish, Northumberland Co., NB ca. 1930, m. Baptist Parsonage, Newcastle, Newcastle Parish, Northumberland Co., NB 3DEC1949 RALPH HERBERT HANSON (b. Kouchibouguac, NB ca. 1929), s/o David Nichlos and Georgie Wilma (Clark) Hanson.

3. FRANK REGNEAL WHYTE, b. NB 13AUG1934?, d. Qualicum Beach, Vancouver Island, BC 15DEC2005, m. LAURIE _____.

If you live near Victoria, why not pop into a Vital Statistics office and get a copy of your father's death certificate. This can be very informative.

Thomas

Re: Whyte or White Family

Posted: 29 Feb 2012 5:51AM GMT
Classification: Query
FRANCIS (FRANK) WINCHESTER ULLOCK b. Chatham Parish, Northumberland Co., NB OCT1888, d. Hotel Du Dieu Hospital, Chatham, Chatham Parish, Northumberland Co., NB 1SEP1928 age 39 years, m. MARY (AMELIA, MOLLY) SPRINGER.
Frank was the s/o James Henry Ullock from Black River (Loggieville), NB, and of Sarah Jane Gulliver of Chatham. He was a steam engineer (machine operator) with the water department. I think his father was the James A. Ullock b. Douglasfield, Northumberland Co., NB JUL1864, d. Chatham Parish, Northumberland Co., NB 8SEP1946 age 82 years, 1 month, s/o Thomas Ullock and Mary McDonald. Thomas Ullock was b. England, and Mary was from Black River. James married Northumberland Co., NB 23OCT1895 Mary Trevors (b. Douglasfield, Chatham Parish, Northumberland Co., NB 15MAR1874, d. Chatham Head, Chatham Parish, Northumberland Co., NB 28AUG1945 age 71 years, 5 months and 13 days), d/o Richard D. and Christina (or Mary D.?) (Cameron) Trevors.

Thomas Ullock was the s/o Thomas and Elspeth Trevors mentioned at:
http://www.nbgs.ca/firstfamilies/FAMILY-U-2006.pdf

Richard D. Trevors was b. Douglasfield, Chatham Parish, Northumberland Co., NB ca. 1847-8 and d. Douglasfield, Chatham Parish, Northumberland Co., NB 1APR1933 age 86 years. His parents were Richard Trevors (b England) and Ellen McKay (b. England.) His death certificate gives his wife as Emma Murdoch, likely a 2nd wife. He m. Emmeline Creech 7MAR1899. The record of this 2nd marriage gave his parents as David and Mary Trevors. This seems more likely as, in 1851, in Chatham Parish, Richd' Trevors age 4 is the s/o David (b. Ireland ca. 1806) and Mary (b. Prince Edward Island ca. 1815) Trevors.

Christina (Cameron) Trevors was b. Douglasfield, Chatham Parish, Northumberland Co., NB ca. 1841, and d. Douglasfield, Chatham Parish, Northumberland Co., NB 17DEC1889 age 48 years. Also with the family was David's father, John Trevors, born Ireland ca. 1771. John and David arrived in 1822 although David's brother, next door (Joseph b. ca. 1811) stated he arrived in 1823. That sort of discrepancy is common. Mary arrived in 1827, so they were likely married in NB.

Children:

1. VERONICA M. ULLOCK b. Chatham Parish, Northumberland Co., NB 25NOV1906

2. JOHN EPHRAIM ULLOCK b. Chatham Parish, Northumberland Co., NB 7NOV1907

3. MARY ESTHER ULLOCK b. Chatham, Chatham Parish, Northumberland Co., NB 11APR1909 (ca. 1909), m. Baptist Parsonage, Newcastle, Newcastle Parish, Northumberland Co., NB 22MAY 1922 JOHN REGINALD WHYTE (WHITE) (b. Newcastle, Newcastle Parish, Northumberland Co., NB 24DEC1907 (ca. 1908)), s/o William James and Susan McDonald (Susanne, Susie) (Beckwith) Whyte.

4. FRANCES HILDA ULLOCK b. Chatham Parish, Northumberland Co., NB 20JUL1910

5. DANIEL ULLOCK b. Chatham Parish, Northumberland Co., NB 18DEC1912

6. FRANCIS ULLOCK b. Chatham, Chatham Parish, Northumberland Co., NB 27MAR1915

7. ANN RUTH (EDITH) CAVELL ULLOCK b. Chatham Parish, Northumberland Co., NB 25SEP1916

8. JAMES ULLOCK b. Chatham Parish, Northumberland Co., NB 15JUL1919, d. Chatham Parish, Northumberland Co., NB 17JUL1935

Sorry, out of time.

Thomas

Re: Whyte or White Family

Posted: 1 Mar 2012 1:16AM GMT
Classification: Query
Thomas

Thank you so much for all the information.

Marijean

Re: Whyte or White Family

Posted: 1 Mar 2012 1:45AM GMT
Classification: Query
I found in my files something on Thomas Ullock's wife, Mary. The Williston's were an early and influential family on the Miramichi River.

Thomas


JOHN BAILEY WILLISTON b. possibly Springfield, MA 23AUG1757, d. Bay du Vin, Northumberland Co., NB 9JUL1833 (or 22JUL1834) age 77 (or 76) years, m. (as Bailey Williston) Bay du Vin, Northumberland Co., NB 13MAR1788 (by James Horton) PHOEBE STYMIEST (b. NY (probably. Hempstead, Long Island, NY) 28APR1770, d. Bay du Vin (Baie des Ventes), Glenelg Parish, Northumberland Co., NB 23DEC1845 age 75 years), d/o Benjamin Christoffel and Abigail Rachael (Fardon) Stymiest.

Children:
1. JOSEPH WILLISTON b. Bay du Vin (Baie des Ventes), Glenelg Parish, Northumberland Co., NB 12JAN1789, d. 16OCT1818, m. 17AUG1813 ELSPETH (ELPHSY, ELSIE) ALICE ('ALCEY') WALLS (b. ca. 1791-3, d. Bay du Vin (Baie des Ventes), Glenelg Parish, Northumberland Co., NB 28JAN1877 age 85 years; m. 2nd 11NOV1819 Thomas Ullock), d/o James and Charlotte (Brown) Walls.
Administration of Joseph's estate was granted 19JAN1819 to 'Alcey' Williston, presumably his wife. She was likely a d/o James Walls who petitioned for land in Northumberland Co., NB in 1788. James was granted lands in Ludlow and Northesk Parishes in 1816 and 1822. Another was John Walls granted land in 1814 with James Goodfellow and Donald Morrison. Probably in Newcastle Parish. Although judging by the 1851 census, there were no Walls in Glenelg Parish, Charles Walls, of Blackville m. 12NOV1861 Mary McKinnon. Mary's father, Charles McKinnon, was from Glenelg Parish. Mary's sister, Phoebe, m. Charles' brother, George Wall. Charles and George were sons of s/o James and Sarah Ann (Munroe) Walls. In 1851, in Blackville Parish, 'Sarah Ann' Walls was b. ca. 1803. Her husband, James (d. Blackville Parish 27APR1851), may have been Elphsy Alice Wall's brother. I have also seen the name as 'Wells'.
The New Brunswick Genealogical Society web site, "First Families", at:
http://www.nbgs.ca/firstfamilies/FAMILY-W-2006.pdf
notes the family:

WALLS: James Walls born 10 Mar 1765 in Orkney Isles, Scotland, d. 9 Jan 1852 in Nelson Parish, s/o John Walls and Isobel Stronch: came to NB in 1784 and probably settled in North Esk or Glenelg Parish in Northumberland County: m. 25 Oct 1787 Charlotte Brown d/o William Brown:
Children:
1) John Walls born c1787, died 6 Nov 1854, m. 27 Sep 1815 his first cousin, Nellie Brown d/o Robert Brown:
2) Isabelle Walls b. c1789, m. (1st) James Goodfellow s/o David Goodfellow of Point aux Carr, Glenelg Parish: married (2nd) Robert A. Mouad:
3) James Walls b. c1791, d. 27 Apr 1851, m. 2 Jul 1818 Sarah Ann Munro:
4) Alice/Els Walls b. c1793, m. (1st) 17 Aug 1813 Joseph Williston, eldest s/o John Bailey Williston: married (2nd) 11 Nov 1819 Thomas Ullock:
5) George Walls born c1810, m. 1839 Barbara Clark:
6) Peter Walls:
7) Daniel Walls:
8) William Walls born c1800, married 25 Aug 1824 Marie Astle: settled in Nelson Parish:
9) Mary Walls born 1802, died 1813.
Sources: MC80/2689 Miramichi Branch of the NBGS, Some first families of the Miramichi, 1 page: see also MC216 Kathleen Willis Williston fonds, MS 1B5 Biographies and notes on early settlers written by Mrs. Williston in 1947, 1 page: see under entry for James Walls which says he was born in Banffshire, Scotland.

Elspeth and Alice might be variations of the same name. In 1851, in Glenelg Parish, she is Elspit Ullock age 58, b. NB. Her husband, Thomas Ullock, was age 55, b. England, arrived MAY1808.
"The Family Herald", Vol. 1, Issue 3, 14MAR2004, by Barry MacK., has an article on page 1, which gives, in part:

Ullock

"The Ullock family, natives of Ullock, Cumberland County, England, entered British North America in May 1808, according to the Northumberland County Census of 1851. The first Ullock in Canada was Thomas Ullock Sr., christened 3 May 1796 in Maryport, Cumberland, England, the son of Sergeant and Ann (McKendrick) Ullock (married 25 May 1794 in Bromfield, Cumberland). Thomas was building ships with John Doran at Chatham, New Brunswick, as early as 1825, and operated, at one time, a livery stable on Duke Street .After Thomas' death, the ownership of the livery stable passed to his grandson Angus. On 11 November 1819, Thomas Sr. married the widow Elizabeth (Elspeth or Alice) (Walls) Williston of Glenelg, Northumberland County, New Brunswick.
"Elizabeth was originally married to Joseph Williston, who died at 30 years, father of two sons. Elizabeth bore Thomas a number of children:
Jeremiah (1821 - @1872), married Ann McMaster. Donald Sergeant (@1825 - @1918), married Emily McRae.
William (@1825 - 6 October 1883), married Jessie Sinclair.
James (@1827 - ).
Thomas (1827 – 28 October 1884), marriedCatherine MacDonald.
Sarah Anne (@ 1827 - ), married Henry Gitchell. Charlotte (@1830 - ), married John McMaster.
Mary Eliza (1829 - ), married John Williston.
Isabella W. (3 January 1832 – 10 November 1882),
married George Pelton.Daniel (@1835 - ).

"The Family Herald is described as:

"The Family Herald is a family genealogy newsletter published occasionally for the benefit of the sons and daughters of the Napan-Black River area. Feel free to make copies and distribute it. To join the mailing list: barrymack4@hotmail.com"

According to one compilation, Joseph and Elspeth had only one son. In the article noted above, they had two sons. I do not readily see, in the 1851 census, anyone age 33-38 years who may have been such a 2nd son.
11. JOHN BAILEY WILLISTON b. Bay du Vin (Baie des Ventes), Glenelg Parish, Northumberland Co., NB 1814, d. Northumberland Co., NB 12NOV1882, m. ISABELLE McDONALD (b. ca. 1817.)


All of this will be confusing, and make take time to sort out. Logging was (and is) a big industry in New Brunswick. In fact, I could make a case that West Coast logging originated in New Brunswick. Many New Brunswickers ended up on the Pacific Coast seeking work. I gather your father was in Sooke for some time, and logging was pretty much the only thing there for a long time till they closed the mill (Lamford's?) and even after.

If you have any questions, ask; but only a few at a time.

Thomas

Re: Whyte or White Family

Posted: 23 Jan 2013 7:43PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: ULLOCK, GULLIVER, WHYTE
I should just like to add a point of clarification - the James Henry (sometimes James Joseph) ULLOCK (who married Sarah Jane GULLIVER) was the son of Jeremiah ULLOCK and AnniE MacMASTER of Upper Black River.

James and Sarah ULLOCK were my great-grandmother's uncle and aunt and had a family of seven children:
1. Hilda - married Wm. Achilles and lives in NH and later Alabama; two children.
2. Annie - never married and died at 22 years of age.
3. Francis Winchester "Frank" - married Molly Springer, lost a leg in the Great War, died 1928; large family.
4. Della - never married and died at 18 years of age.
5. Henry James "Harry" - never married and lived in Manchester, NH.
6. Lottie - died at less than 4 months of age.
7. Helen - married Edwin Tessier and lived in Chicago.

I was the chap who published The Family Herald for a short while until university life got too much in the way. I have done much more research on the Ullocks and MacMasters since those newsletters we published.

Please get in touch if you think that I can be of any help at all.
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