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Kalmar, John (Janos) and Barbara (Borbola)

Kalmar, John (Janos) and Barbara (Borbola)

Posted: 18 Jul 2010 12:15AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Kalmar, Bence, Bencze
I am trying to find a record of my great grandfather's death. Born Janos Kalmar, (changed to John Kalmar in America).

He was born 22 Sep 1879 in Tét, Gyor-Moson-Sopron, Hungary. He was a miner in Pennsylvania. A pillar robber. He died in the mine. I don't know the date but the range would be between 1930 and 1936.

I know he worked at the Susquehanna Coal Company when he registered for the draft for World War I. Not sure if this is the company that owned the mine he died in or not.

He lived in Northumberland County, PA. He was alive on the 1920 and 1930 Censuses, living in Kulpmont, PA.

He also had a home on Catawissa Mountain earlier but could not pay taxes and had it taken away before he moved to Kulpmont.

His wife was Barbara (Borbola Bencze). She died around 1921 when was in the last trimester of pregnancy. I cannot find her death record either.

I know they were Catholic but at some point (before or after Barbara's death) he left the Catholic Church and become Lutheran.

Janos and Barbara had nine children:
Rose Kalmar 1906 – 1989
Elizabeth Kalmar 1907 – 1993
Helen Kalmar 1909 – 1982
John Kalmar 1910 – 1964
William Kalmar 1911 – 1996
Louis Joseph Kalmar 1913 – 1986
Frank Kalmar 1914 – 1930
Charles Kalmar 1915 – 1994
Julius Kalmar 1919 – 1999

Any and all info, ideas, leads, reference guides or sites welcome!

Re: Kalmar, John (Janos) and Barbara (Borbola)

Posted: 2 Feb 2011 4:47AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Kalmar, Curtin, DeRocher, Bence, Bencze, Becola
Hi! I have their marriage certificate and wedding photo, and have grown up knowing the children of their children. Oh my goodness! I'm the great-granddaughter of Rose, and my name is also Rose, and I could almost cry, I am so happy to see this. My e-mail address is rcdrakewrites at gmail. Send a message if you'd like to exchange information.

Do you have their marriage certificate? I have the crispy old original with cursive in fading ink, but Barbara's name on it looks like Becola to me. It says they were married in Northumberland County on February 5th, 1906, license number 14409.

But, the children's names and death years match the children of my ancestors John and Barbara exactly; it has to be the same people.

Sorry to be vague. I am just gathering this information and largely relying on the stories of their grandchildren.

Re: Kalmar, John (Janos) and Barbara (Borbola)

Posted: 2 Feb 2011 4:43PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi, I'm sorry it took me so long to reply to your message, I don't check this site as often as I should.

Julius Kalmar was my father and Rose who responded to you is my 3rd cousin. By all means look me up on Facebook (Jeff Kalmar) and let's share our family information!

Re: Kalmar, John (Janos) and Barbara (Borbola)

Posted: 3 Feb 2011 3:11PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Jeff,

I just friended you on Facebook. I will certainly share with you what I have.

Regards,

Karen Katz

Re: Kalmar, John (Janos) and Barbara (Borbola)

Posted: 17 Feb 2011 4:13PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Rose,

That is indeed their marriage certificate. As my mother tells it, apparently Barbara's parents were not fond of Janos and did not bless the marriage. So perhaps she made up a last name?

Re: Kalmar, John (Janos) and Barbara (Borbola)

Posted: 27 Jun 2011 7:51AM GMT
Classification: Query
I found barbara's mother who seems to have a Jewish name which might explain problem with marriage. I will get back to you. Or send email and I will get the info it is in a search my daughter did.

Re: Kalmar, John (Janos) and Barbara (Borbola)

Posted: 29 Jun 2011 3:58AM GMT
Classification: Biography
Surnames: B Nepivoda, Nancy Walter, Tracy George, Mark Neoivoda. 4 gsons,1 gd
Oh ! I did get through. I just decided to call if I got a number. It,s my daughter who has been working on it and she. ran into one of uncle bill's kids on the net. I think she has at least one mistake I did find some documents. Do you have any pictures. I guess you know you look just like your mom. I went to see her and was so happy she was so well take care of. It must have been just before she moved because she was packed up. If I had gone later I would have had a hard time hunting her up. I went with a friend who also knew your mother. She wanted junk food for lunch. She ate hers, and mine. I saw the diabetic paraphernalia. I,m a nurse so I did check her before I left. I love your music. Could I persuade you to comr see us. The kids would love it. Cousin Barbara


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