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Posted: 26 Aug 2001 5:49PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 27 Aug 2001 2:32AM GMT
Surnames: Colfer, Colford
I would really appreciate getting copies of any Colfer trees. My ancestor (gggf) Richard Colford, entered the U.S. from Canada. He was born in 1827 in County Wexford Ireland. I see from the messages that there are several Colfers that emmigrated from Canada from Wexford. Surely there is a connection. Thanks! Nina

Re: Colfer trees

Richard Colfer (View posts)
Posted: 5 Sep 2001 7:08PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Nina, Are you familiar with a Joe Colford - ProfColf@aol.com? I cannot find a direct connection with all the Colfer's associated with KipnSharonHiett@aol.com, perhaps you can. Good Luck.
Dick Colfer
(Pennsylvania)

Re: Colfer trees

Posted: 3 Oct 2001 2:06AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 12 Sep 2003 8:26PM GMT
Dick . . . I am Joe Colford (ProfColf@aol.com) you mentioned in your posting . . . I haven't visited the Colfer site in several months, but would like to keep communication open re: the Colfer tree . . .my g-grandfather was Michael Colfer who arrived here from Co Wexford in 1866 . . . am looking for any brothers or sisters of his he may have come here with. Keep in touch.

Re: Colfer trees

Sally Bennett (View posts)
Posted: 3 Jan 2002 2:13PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Colfer/Colford, Tracy, Dillen or Dillon, Dettmann, Rusch, Tiedje, Wendling, Schnuelle, March
Nina and all,
You and I spoke on the phone in Nov. 1996 shortly after my mother Alice Colford died. Most of my family infor was in a box buried at a storage unit away from our home. Now I have it out.
I am a great great granddaugter of Patrick Colfer who came to the US via Canada about 1854. He stopped in Chicago for about a year (shows up in Chicago City directories with other Colfers, including James, living on Milwaukee Avenue). Then he moved to Turner Junction (now West Chicago), DuPage COunty, Illinois. He married Maraget Dillen or Dillon in 1859. Richard Colfer and he are traditionally considered brothers and I was told that side of the family were my cousins -- including George (our uncle) and Herbert - (your father or grandfather?). Richard and Patrick bought 3 acres each of land along what is now called Colford Avenue in West Chicago. There are houses on both sides of the street owned by them or their descendants. Patrick's house was a one and a half story house (built about 1858) torn down about ten-fifteen years ago for a modern one. The family name underwent a change in the 19th century and became Colford. That was my amiden name though my father always pronounced it Colfer - like he was saying Cal-fer, leaving the "d" silent.

Patrick had two children by his first wife: Patrick Andrew born 1861 who married Mary Tracy and Ellen born 1863 (?) who married Thomas Riordan. Margaret died in 1866 and Patrick married a Sarah Graham and they had a number of children including Mary and Andrew.

I have come across names for other Colfers at or near West Chicago/Turner Junction from 1860s to 1890s such as Thomas Colfer, Andrew Colfer, Matthew Colfer, James -- in local newpapers and old Catholic church records as witnesses for marriages and births. I made a connection with the Matthew Colfer line in the 1980s in Minnesota. Matthew went to Minnesota via Dubuque, Iowa. Many of the Colfers became railroad men.

Re: Colfer trees

Posted: 21 Jan 2002 12:07AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 17 Nov 2006 10:49AM GMT
A James Colfer was living at 115 Hickery Ave. Chicargo in 1907 when his niece Mary Colfer from Enniscorthy Wexford went out to join him. Mary was age 22 and had been working as a domestic servant in London. Have you anything in your records that could be this James or Mary Colfer?

Re: Colfer trees

Posted: 21 Jan 2002 2:55AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Colfer, Colford, Tracy, Dillen or Dillon, Godwin or Goodwin, Kelly
The James Colfer I have come across was in Chicago at 127 N. Milwaukee Ave in the 1850s (I think that is the correct address). By 1907, my family was using the name Colford, instead of Colfer. My father and grandfather were named James but my geat and great-great grandfathers were Patrick. So I imagine that the James of the 1850s is of some relation.
Kevin Colfer suggested I contact you as you might have some baptism records from Ireland. If so, can you email me off-line at your convenience?

Re: Colfer trees

Nina Broyles (View posts)
Posted: 21 Jan 2002 8:12PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Colford, Ahern, Karstens, Schulte, Mann, Coleman
Sally it is great hearing from you! Thank you for confirmation of the connection. I have drawn the same conclusion but I get a little confused on the 12 brothers. I'll email you and give you what I have. Most of it is from Neville Colfer. Nina

Re: Colfer trees

Sally Bennett (View posts)
Posted: 22 Jan 2002 2:03AM GMT
Classification: Query
Nina,
I am glad you finally got my message. I lost your address and phone number after we moved twice. I am in the Kansas City area now. I have some info for you as well. Look forward to hearing from you.
Sally

Re: Colfer trees

Posted: 30 Jan 2002 2:59PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Colford, Ahern, Karstens, Schulte
Dear Sally, Here goes:
Thomas Colfer m Harper
1. Patrick m 1) Margaret Dillon
Patrick Andrew m Mary Tracy
James Francis m Emily Dettman
Patrick m Alice
Sally
2. Richard m Martha Mann
Richard Andrew m Kate Ahern
Herbert Richard m Mildred Karstens
Elizabeth Ann m Ralph Traubel
Nina
As you know the above reflects only two of the 12 children of Thomas Colfer. There was Andrew, Thomas, Matthew, Michael and James that I know of. Obviously I took our two lines only. I have addresses and siblings but just wanted to show this to you to see if you have the same. This would mean that my grandfather and your grandfather James, were 2nd cousins. I am really excited to have the info that you've given me and I hope I can add to yours. The big question in my mind is why was there such a BIG break between my gf and yours. I understand that there was a divorce and your father's mother did not want any contact but you would think that Herb (my gf) would have a least mentioned to my mother that Butch was related! I'm so glad we are reconnected. Write and tell me what you think. :)

Re: Colfer trees

Sally Bennett (View posts)
Posted: 30 Jan 2002 5:31PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Colfer, Tracy, Dillen, and now Harper.
Dear Nina,
Yes, I think it was kinda weird they didn't mix although I was always told they were my relatives as a child. I remember seeing George Colford and he had red hair since his car dealership was just a block up the street from us at the time (before Krumholz took it over). I think it was a Catholic thing and something of a scandal. My dad was living with his father on Colford Avenue and going to the Catholic school (St. Mary's) when his mother kidnaped him and his sister and took them to Chicago to live with her. Since she was Lutheran, she had my dad and his sister re-baptized! So I was even brought up Lutheran and not Catholic. And I was of course indoctrinated that all my Catholic relatives were going to H--- unless they became Protestants! And that caused a anguish and conflict in me as a little girl to know my cousins were going to end up in a place I was not.

So how did you come across Thomas Colfer and --- Harper? I knew Patrick married Margaret Dillen first, then she died in 1866 and his second wife was Sarah Graham.
Neville sent me a list of baptisms and sponsors for a couple of parishes in County Wexford.

Have you been able to figure out where in Canada they landed?

You can email me nathanheald@webtv.net.

Thanks!
Sally
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