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Looking for Info about a Convent-Orphanage named Le Fleur in New Orleans

Looking for Info about a Convent-Orphanage named Le Fleur in New Orleans

Posted: 22 Aug 2011 3:04AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Morales, Luna
Our ancestor, Zachary Donovan Morales (b. before 1850) was left at a convent by this name by his family (possibly because he was ill). He says he never knew his parents (Luis and Juliana Luna) but I think I have discovered them and they both appear to have immigrated from Mexico (his father in 1836). They later moved to Brownsville, TX and died in LA, CA.
Any help with finding the Le Fleur convent or advice on how to research this would be welcome. Thanks.

Re: Looking for Info about a Convent-Orphanage named Le Fleur in New Orleans

Posted: 15 Feb 2012 3:51AM GMT
Classification: Query
I am also a descendent of Zachary, through my grandfather, Henry Morales. You have a great deal more information that I have been able to find. I would like to make contact with you and learn more! Thanks, Sande Morales Montano

Re: Looking for Info about a Convent-Orphanage named Le Fleur in New Orleans

Posted: 15 Feb 2012 5:42AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Morales
Hi, good to hear from you! I have been in contact with other Morales descendents and they think Zachary either survived a shipwreck or was sent to New Orleans on a train (possibly an Orphan train). Indeed, Zachary apparently never knew his parents or where they were from. One person thinks his mother may have been named Donovan and his dad, a Morales. If he did teach Spanish, he must have been well educated. He may have lived in a monastery in New Orleans. His wife says the name of the residence was La Fleur. But, I have not been able to find anything by that name. He did not get adopted and left New Orleans for Caldwell, KS when he was a young man. Caldwell was as wild as the west ever became so he must have been eager for excitement.

Anyway, this week Jim Hartnett (one of Zachary's grandsons) will be here if you want me to ask him any questions. He is 90 years old and is a son of Alva (Morales) Hartnett.

Re: Looking for Info about a Convent-Orphanage named Le Fleur in New Orleans

Posted: 14 Apr 2012 4:57AM GMT
Classification: Query
I was in New Orleans a couple of weeks ago and asked Loyola if they would have any record of Zachary there because that is what my father told me but Loyola told me that they weren't founded until 1912 so I should check the orphanages. I will contact them again and see if they can provide any information about the orphanage. Looks like we are all trying to answer the same question about Zachary. By the way, hi cousins. I am Dennis Morales, grandson of Delmar, Zachary's second youngest son.

Re: Looking for Info about a Convent-Orphanage named Le Fleur in New Orleans

Posted: 14 Apr 2012 5:48AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Morales/Cutshall
Hi, I am actually the wife of your cousin Kevin, son of Jim Hartnett, grandson of Zachary, through Zachary's daughter, Alva Morales. I am glad you asked around while you were in New Orleans. I am currently looking for a smaller orphanage run by a woman names La Fleur. I found mention of such an orphanage, included in a story of the infamous Lady Marmalade, who apparently was reared in Mdme. La Fleur's orphanage. I am not sure why Zachary chose to relocate to Co and then Caldwell, KS. He was apparently frail or recovering from an illness. I think it is likely he was orphaned at sea and the records have been long lost as to where he was born. The Canary Islands have a lot of Morales surnames and the is the origin of the earliest "Islenos" colonists, sent by the Spanish to protect their interests in New Orleans. And the first official appointed by the King of Spain was named Morales. But, that was years before Zachary arrived. Nice to hear from you!

Re: Looking for Info about a Convent-Orphanage named Le Fleur in New Orleans

Posted: 14 Apr 2012 5:54AM GMT
Classification: Query
And I am granddaughter of Zachary's son, Henry. What evidence is there that he was in Colorado? I had never heard that part of his story before.
Thanks,
Sande

Re: Looking for Info about a Convent-Orphanage named Le Fleur in New Orleans

Posted: 14 Apr 2012 6:20AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Morales/Cutshall
That came from the written 'oral' history we have from Margaret Cutshall. She said Zachary was educated at a NO monastery, then, in his 20's, he was taken to Colorado by a man named Young. Supposedly he took him there so he could restore his health and learn to ride horses. Maybe fresh air and horseback riding was considered a 'cure' back then? I wonder what illness befell Zachary and who Mr. Young was? I went to the trouble to trace the name "Young' and there was a store clerk names Young but I don't know if it was him. I also checked the names of Mormon agents in N.O. thinking that perhaps Brigham Young or, his sons were in N.O. at the time. Brigham Young did aid thousands of converts who were primarily streaming into N.O. from Europe at the time. And, he did order metal grill-work from artisans there but, there is no record of him spending time there. I had the thought Zachary might have traveled to CO, to a new Mormon settlement that sprung up after they left Iowa. But Zachary seems to have settled in Caldwell, KS and then, Indiana, where he met Margaret. But, I haven't found any further census records or evidence of his travels outside the one that mentions him working as a 'cow herder' and the marriage record, from KS. So, he remains a puzzle. He got a pretty good education while in New Orleans so, he may have finished his education at one of their several monasteries. So many records must be lost by now!

Re: Looking for Info about a Convent-Orphanage named Le Fleur in New Orleans

Posted: 9 Aug 2012 12:45AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 9 Aug 2012 12:45AM GMT
Surnames: Morales, Luna
Hi There,

Zachary is my 3rd Great Grandfather. Can you give me any information you have on his parents? Luis and Juliana Luna?

Thank you so much!

Re: Looking for Info about a Convent-Orphanage named Le Fleur in New Orleans

Posted: 9 Aug 2012 7:30AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Zachary Morales
Hi, Zachary may not related to Luis and Juliana Luna even though they are included on a census form with a son named Zacarias. The dates and locations just don't jive with any other data. One of the Morales cousins does think he was born in Texas (acc to her father) but, he also could have been left in an orphanage in New Orleans (acc to Zachary's wife). I can't find any mention of him in any official paperwork until he shows up in Caldwell, KS ranch (cow herder), acc to one census account (assuming that his him!). He does not appear to have fought in any wars. And, his life seems to have begun at the time of his marriage as far as most census records go. His wife told a granddaughter that Zachary grew up in an orphanage run by someone named Lafleur. But, the only orphanage run buy a Mme Lafleur, was likely torn down to make way for a highway through the center of New Orleans. It might be the same small orphanage the infamous Lady Marmalade mentions in her bio.

Re: Looking for Info about a Convent-Orphanage named Le Fleur in New Orleans

Posted: 15 Aug 2012 8:22PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Zachary D. Morales
Hi again, I was researching orphanages in Fort Worth, TX in a vain attempt to find the origins of Zachary Donovan Morales. Ft. Worth/Houston, was the larges city in TX and orphanages were beginning to be founded there around the time of Zachary's birth. Zachary Taylor was also prominent there so maybe he was named after him? Anyway, I am wondering if Zachary was born in TX and then taken to an orphanage in New Orleans, which had more established orphanages, after his parents died? Anyone find any evidence of his birth in Fort Worth?
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