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Ruby Sullivan

Posted: 13 Nov 2012 3:53AM GMT
Classification: Query
Looking for Ruby Sullivan born abt 1887 in Kentucky; father is George Marlar born abt 1865; three children: Eva Sullivan born 1909, Wilton, Kentucky, Howard Sullivan born 1913, Tennessee, and Ruby S. Sullivan born 1915 Tennessee. Obituary for Ruby S. Sullivan shows Myrtle Hilton as her sister. The family only shows on the 1920 and 1930 census.

Re: Ruby Sullivan

Posted: 13 Nov 2012 7:13AM GMT
Classification: Query

When Ruby S Sullivan die and what was her last name at time of death ? Then maybe a Myrtle Hilton can be found in death records after death of Ruby ?

Myrtle could have been born prior to Eva Sullivan with a different father ? Do you think LUCY Marler (sic) had children with Eugene Cassady in her 40's ? Does not seem to be the case. I'm thinking Myrtle was older than Eva. Where these folks said they were born on the census records will make one a little nutty looking for them.

1920 Grays, Knox County Kentucky
self George Marlar M 55y Kentucky MARRIED
dau Sarah Marlar F 32y Kentucky 1888 SINGLE
married dau Lucy Sullivan F 35y Kentucky 1885
grnd dtr Eva Sullivan Wilton, Knox Co Kentucky 18 April 1909
grnd son Harrod Sullivan M 7y Kentucky appx 1913
grnd dtr Ruby Sullivan F 5y Kentucky 1915

Name: Ruby S Sullivan
Date of Birth: 13 Jul 1915
County: Knox
Mother's name: Lucy Marlow
Volume Number: 72
Certificate Number: 35751
Volume Year: 1915
Kentucky Birth Index 1911 - 1999

name: William Roach
event: Marriage
event date: 07 May 1945
event place: Bedford, Indiana
other event place:
registration place: Lawrence, Indiana, United States
marriage license date: 07 May 1945
residence: Bedford,
gender: Male
age (estimated): 32
number of prior marriages: once
race: White
birth date: 16 Jun 1913
birthplace: Springville, Indiana
father's name: Virgul Roach
mother's name: Carrie Webb Roach
spouse's name: Eva Terrell
spouse's residence: Bedford, , Indiana
spouse's gender: Female
spouse's age (estimated): 36
spouse's number of prior marriages: once
spouse's race: White
spouse's birth date: 18 Apr 1909
spouse's birthplace: Wilton, Kentucky
spouse's father's name: Dave Sullivan
spouse's mother's name: Lucy Marlow
informant's name:
priest's name: J V Stapp
page: 30
record number:
reference:
film number: 001426381
digital folder number: 004839053
image number: 00052
number of images: 1
batch number: M03288-2
Citing this Record
"Indiana, Marriages, 1811-1959," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org

1930 Bedford, Lawrence, Indiana
head Eugene Cassady M 48 Kentucky appx 1882 was 19 yrs old 1st time he married
wife Lucy Cassady F 43 Tennessee 1885 -1887 was 14 yrs old 1st time she married
stepdaughter Eva Terrell F 20 Kentucky
stepson Howard Sulivan M 17 Tennessee was not in Lawrence Co IN in 1940 born TN or KY
stepdaughter Ruby Sulivan F 15 Kentucky
daughter Anna Jean Cassady Bloomington IN 09 Sept 1915 - 08 Apr 1935 Bedford IN married Glenn Henderson mother Annabelle StClair. Glenn b. 11 Dec 1916 Lawrence IN
step son-in-law Carl Wesley Terrell M 21 Indiana appx 1909 was living in Shawswick, Lawrence Co IN 1940 without Eva yet he said he was still married and remarried 29 Apr 1944 in Bedford to Juanita B Swango noting he was previously married twice.

1940 Ward 3, Bedford, Shawswick township, Lawrence, IN
head Lucy Cassady F 54 Indiana widow
married daughter Eva Terrell F 31 Indiana
granddaughter Glora D Terrell F 7 Indiana
granddaughter Freida R Terrell F 5 Indiana
granddaughter Loretta J Terrell F 2 Indiana


William C Roach 16 June 1913 - 08 Sept 1989 ss # issued Indiana WW II vet 12 Oct 1943 - 11 Nov 1945 US Navy

Name: George Marlor widowed
Death Date: 9 Jul 1923
Death Location: Knox
Age: 68 +
Gender: Male
Ethnicity: White
Birth Date: Apr 1855
Birth Location: Kentucky
Father's Birth Location: Kentucky
Mother's name: Miss Wilson
Mother's Birth Location: Kentucky
informant: T J Adams
burial: Corn Creek Graveyard

Lucy Cassidy last directory listing in Bedford IN in 1960 widow of Eugene.

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Name: Lucy Cassady
Birth: 22 Oct 1875
Death: 15 Oct 1970 - Bedford, Lawrence, Indiana, United States of America
Civil: Indiana

Re: Ruby Sullivan

Posted: 14 Nov 2012 3:39AM GMT
Classification: Query
Thank you very much for your time and effort. I agree with your findings.

Ruby S. Sullivan died Ruby S. Roach 2 Jan 1966; Myrtle Hilton is shown to be her sister in the obituary. However I cannot find Myrtle in any record, I did find one picture of the two fo them, Myrtle looks older.

I did hear once, "poor Lucy (mother) asks about Ruby (her daughter already passed away)", in a letter written on Howard Sullivan's death in about 1967. So I'm guess she was alive at that time, however I calculate her birth year as 1886-1887, however your findings shown below would be correct for Bedford, IN.


Name: Lucy Cassady
Birth: 22 Oct 1875
Death: 15 Oct 1970 - Bedford, Lawrence, Indiana, United States of America
Civil: Indiana

So I have to ask from your experience, could her Birth shown above as 22 Oct 1875, be simply error from family or friends reporting this to officials at the time of death rather than actual knowledge. Is this common from your experience; mine is minimal. Again thank you for your assitance.

Re: Ruby Sullivan

Posted: 14 Nov 2012 2:59PM GMT
Classification: Query

Yes, I believe the informant for death of Lucy Cassady was off by appx 10 years. Based on Lucy's statement on 1930 census she was 14 when she married 1st time which would be about 1899.

Based on those calculations Myrtle would have been born 1899 - 1907/1908 then Eva in 1909. Myrtle then married as a teen to age 20 and was own her own by time the 1920 census was enumerated.

I do find a Myrtle Hilton that died in Fayette/Boyle KY 26 Jan 1981 age 73. However, Hilton was her name in 1967 and she could have remarried and died under a different surname.

Lucy, Myrtle and Eva should be listed together somewhere in the 1910 census but nothing has been located by me. Lucy not found as a Sullivan in 1900 census. I know they were not listed in Knox co KY in 1910 where Eva Sullivan said she was born on her marriage license.

I believe this to be the Myrtle Hilton that died in KY. She is listed in Boyle Co 1930 census wife of Boone D Hilton he was 39 and Myrtle M Hilton was 22 son George M Hilton age born Boyle Co 21 Aug 1928. This Myrtle said she was 20 when she married then son Harold E Hilton was born in Boyle Co 30 Aug 1935. They moved Knoxville TN by 1940. This Myrtle Hilton's maiden was Webb from Boyle Co dtr of John and Mary Webb.

I attempted to find marriage records and do not even find one for Lucy's marriage to Eugene Cassady.

Name: Myrtle B. Hilton
Birth: 24 Aug 1900
Death: 14 Feb 1988 - Kerrville, Kerr, Texas, United States of America
Civil: Texas

Name: Myrtle Hilton
Birth: 13 Dec 1902
Death: Mar 1977 - Worcester, Worcester, Massachusetts, United States of America
Civil: Massachusetts

Name: Myrtle Hilton
Birth: 5 Jun 1904
Death: Mar 1975 - Baltimore, Baltimore, Maryland, United States of America
Civil: Maryland

Name: Myrtle Hilton
Birth: 3 Apr 1905
Death: Sep 1978
Civil: Missouri
Other: Birmingham, Jefferson, Alabama, United States of America

I believe George "Marlow" born May 1856 was living in Woodbine, Whitley Co in 1900 census, listed as widowed residing household of a Mary Leforce along with dtr Jerusie born Feb 1886 and son Finley O Marlow b. Sept 1887 and dtr Sarah J Marlow says b. Oct 1886 was living with an uncle John Wesley Marlow b. 1861 wife America Green. John and America moved to Cincinnati by 1940. He died in Knoxville TN 1946 parents Allen Luther "Marlar" and Sarah Kidd. Was Jerusie and Lucy the same person ?

Finley/Findley Marlow then appears in Hamilton Co OH 1910 census and find no other record.

Then I find George Marlow age given as 42 living in Woodbine in 1910 household of a Romines family.

Name: Casina Lagsdon
Birth Date: 18 Apr 1903
Birth County: Whitley
Ethnicity: White
Gender: Male
Father's Name: W M Lagsdon
Mother's name: Lucy Marlow
County of Residence: Whitley
FIND NO OTHER RECORD ON THIS PERSON

1860 Cumberland River, Whitley KY
Alen Marlow 48 KY
Sarah KIDD Marlow 42 KY
Sherard Marlow 24
David Marlow 18
Jerusy Marlow 14
Elizabeth Marlow 12 26 Aug 1858 Whitley Co
Lucretia Marlow 8
Wm Marlow 6
George R Marlow 4
Elijah Marlow 1

Don't find the Marlow's in Whitley Co 1870 or 1880 census.

Re: Ruby Sullivan

Posted: 14 Nov 2012 5:28PM GMT
Classification: Query

PS. found Ruby's marriage record.

name: Rollan E Roach
event: Marriage
event date: 26 Feb 1932
event place: , Clark, Indiana
other event place:
registration place: , Clark, Indiana, United States
marriage license date: 26 Feb 1932
residence: Bedford, , Indiana
gender: Male
age (estimated): 23
number of prior marriages: 1st
race: White
birth date: 16 Sep 1909
birthplace: Salem, , Indiana
father's name: George Roach
mother's name: Mary Panza
spouse's name: Ruby Sullivan
spouse's residence: Bedford, ,
spouse's gender: Female
spouse's age (estimated): 20
spouse's number of prior marriages: 1st
spouse's race: White
spouse's birth date: 04 Jul 1912
spouse's birthplace: , Lawrence, Indiana
spouse's father's name: Dave Sullivan
spouse's mother's name: Lucy Cassady
informant's name:
priest's name: William E Dorsey
page: 161
record number:
reference:
film number: 002312250
digital folder number: 004476625
image number: 00264
number of images: 1
batch number: M02964-5
Citing this Record
"Indiana, Marriages, 1811-1959," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org
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