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Motes/Georgia, Florida

Barbara Luecking West (View posts)
Posted: 11 Nov 2000 8:40PM GMT
Several cousins and I have been researching the Motes line from Georgia to Florida. Our line begins with two Motes brothers, Zachariah and John who are documented in the Camden County, Ga records as early as 1809. They moved into territorial NE Florida as early as 1817 and eventually started a Motes dynasty which began blossoming in Putnam County, Florida in the early 1840's. The cousins are direct descendants of John and 5th generation Floridians. Thanks to the hard research of two cousins, John was designated as a Florida Pioneer by the Florida State Genealogical Society in 1996. If any are interested in this branch of the family, we'd be glad to share or trade info. We, on the other hand, are interested in removing the roadblock as to where and from whom Zachariah and John descended. Limited background points to their father or grandfather being a Matthew Motes in the Camden County, Ga area. And, although we know John was married to a Margaret, we've been unable to identify her at this time. We do believe they were married prior to moving to Florida. Any help would be appreciated. Marge Motes...I'll be writing for your book !!!

Margaret Motes

James Schriver (View posts)
Posted: 28 Apr 2001 11:32AM GMT
Margaret (last name unknown)1796-1860 married John Motes 1790-1845. I don't know when or where. They had at least seven chldren William 1815, George 1816, Henry 1820, Louis 1825, Eliza 1828, John 1830 and Susan 1832. My wife is a decendent of thier son John.

Margaret Motes

Barbara Luecking West (View posts)
Posted: 28 Apr 2001 3:21PM GMT
Dear James,
I was so-o-o-o glad to see your posting. I also descend from Margaret Motes through her son John who married Rachel Wilkinson. Their son Lewis Warren Motes is my gg grandfather on my mothers side. I am presently in touch with several Motes cousins and we have all been compiling our research. In fact, two cousins are already holding Florida Pioneer Descendant Certificates from Margaret's husband John. Of course we could also claim under Margaret if we could just identify her family. We have extensive info from John and Margaret forward on all the children. Please email me and tell me where you live and what exactly your wife's connections are. We can't wait to hear and would be most happy to share our research with her.

I live in Rockledge, Florida, by the Space Center and travel to Palatka quite regularly to research. There are lots of Motes descendants there and also in St. Augustine. In fact, there is usually a Motes reunion in Palatka in May each year. This year will be the exception, however, some of us are planning to meet in St. Augustine on Sunday, June 10. Would love to include you if you are near to travel.

Please write!!!

Barbara

Margaret Motes

James Schriver (View posts)
Posted: 29 Apr 2001 4:14AM GMT
This is some of what I have. John Motes(1790) married Margaret and had a son named John (1830) who married Rachel Wilkinson and had sons named John L. ((1864) and Lewis W (?). My wife's g grandfather was John L. So your gg grandfather Lewis W. and my wife's g grandfather John L. were brothers. You and her are distant cousins. She was born in St. Augustine and her maiden name was Karen Mercer. Her grandmother was Edna Motes. Her mothers maiden name was Margaret (motes) Arant. Her mother still lives in St. Augustine. We will be out of town on the 10 of June so we can not attend your reunion. I would still like to when and where you are holding it because my mother-in-law might be interested.

James (Jim) Schriver

Margaret Motes

Barbara Luecking West (View posts)
Posted: 29 Apr 2001 6:38PM GMT
Dear Jim and Cousin Karen,
This is really fascinating...I know Karen's Mom, if not Karen, must know many of my St. Augustine Motes and allied families. Here's just a hint, but if you would email me your address, I would be glad to send you a more complete copy of the Motes as we know them:
John & Margaret Motes
William
George
Henry
Lewis
Eliza
John L. & Rachel Wilkinson
Melinda
George W.
Margaret Lou
Elijah
Nancy
Susan
John L. &Anna Jane Marlow
James William
Alex
Ida
Thomas Zachariah
Alice
Henry George
John Franklin
Annie
Edna (Your Line ?)
Henry
Elizabeth
Lewis Warren &Frances L. Smith
Elaine Agnes & Rollin Hines
Raymond Lewis
Clarene Inez (my mother)
& William Luecking
William Herman
Barbara Janet (me)
Robert Bruce
Billy Joseph
Minna Jeannette
Edward Leslie
Lottie Inez % Jay Zeigler
Roy William
Lewis Warren

I know this is not real clear without dates, spouses and children but is just too much to write here.

Of the Motes lines in St. Augustine, the following still live there who are still close to me.
Ramond Hines; Minna Hines Wilson,her son Chip Wilson & Family; Grace Delaney Hines Cothron (Billy Hines x-wife);Elizabeth Zeigler Magnum; and lots of others. There are others still in Jax and Palatka.

Please email (petuniamg@aol.com) soon with your mailing address,
Cousin Barbara



Re: Motes/Georgia, Florida

Posted: 24 Nov 2002 8:53PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 19 Jul 2003 8:54PM GMT
You will find that John and Zacariah Motes are also found in the records of what is today Laurens Co., SC. There was a large migration out of this area of SC into AL, GA, FL, in the late 1790 through the 1830's with the opening of new lands and families moving westward.

Marge Motes

Re: Margaret Motes

Posted: 4 Oct 2003 10:08PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Burnside, Burnsed, Motes, Sweat, Rhoden
Miss Eliza Motes was married to James M Burnside on October 29, 1840. I have suspected that she was the daughter of John Motes in Nassau County. Today, I found the marriage record in the Duval County marriage books stating that she was married by Jackson Tynum, Justice of the Peace of Nassau County.

Do you think this could indeed be the Eliza who was John's daughter? If so, it would be the beginning of the end of a long hunt! :-)

The Burnsides settled in Columbia County, and later in Baker County, where he was the first sherriff. Their home was moved to Baker County Historical Park. In 1860, William Motes was living next door to the Burnsides in New River County. He was 45 at the time. I've thought that he was probably Eliza's brother.

I'd appreciate any help you can give!

Regards

Christine

Re: Margaret Motes

Barbara Luecking West (View posts)
Posted: 5 Oct 2003 12:56PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Motes, Hines, Smith, Kelly,Thomas, Perry, Roundtree, Wilkinson, etc
Hi Christine,
Yes, I also firmly believe that the Eliza Motes who married James Burnsed (Burnside) is the daughter of John Motes, Sr. of Nassau County. Although she is not my line (I descend from her brother John, Jr.) she has been in my tree since my research began in 1999. All of that early research came from other Motes cousins and census records but I don't show specific documentation on Eliza. I did show her marriage, matching dates in Nassau County and I am SURE that she is like brothers John and William whose Nassau County marriages were recorded in Duval because the Nassau Courthouse had burned. We could trade alot more information but would prefer to do so on private email. Remember...I have no more specific info on Eliza but lots more on her Motes family and that may give you more clues.
I look forward to hearing from you. Email me at petuniamg@aol.com.
A Motes cousin,
Barbara

Re: Margaret Motes

James Schriver (View posts)
Posted: 6 Oct 2003 9:19AM GMT
Classification: Query
Christine,

I'm positive your Eliza is the same as the one I have listed in my family tree. I have been working on all trees in my wife's and my families for for almost 20 years. My wife's great great great grandfather was John Motes Sr. The same John you speak about in your posting. He was born about 1790 and died about 1845. He married Margaret ?. She was born about 1796 and died about 1860. They had 7 children that I know of. William, George, Henry, Louis, Eliza, John Jr. and Susan. My wife's great great grandfather was John Jr 1830. Her great grandfather was John L 1864. Her grandmother was Edna 1900 and her mother was Margaret 1921. Your Eliza was born about 1828. She married James Burnside in 1840 so she was no doubt born before 1828. If not she would have been only 12 when she married. Possible but probably not the case. Eliza was John Jr's sister so she would be a very distant aunt to my wife. If I can be of any onther help my e-mail address is schriver63@earthlink.net. Good luck in your quest. It gets pretty exciting when you can gather new information.

James (Jim) Schriver
Jacksonville, Florida
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