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Obit Lookup - Smith/Ellis

Obit Lookup - Smith/Ellis

Posted: 24 Jun 2013 10:25PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 25 Jun 2013 2:55PM GMT
Surnames: Smith, Ellis
Looking for an obituary for Annie Y. (Smith) Ellis
Born: October 21, 1872 Died: Don't Know

Maiden Name: Smith
Married to Frank E. Ellis Sr.

Re: Obit Lookup - Smith/Ellis

Posted: 25 Jun 2013 8:41PM GMT
Classification: Query
When was the last census you found her on?

Margaret

Re: Obit Lookup - Smith/Ellis

Posted: 25 Jun 2013 9:04PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 26 Jun 2013 8:44PM GMT
Surnames: Wolfe
1940 living in New York. Shown as Gladys Wolfe, married to Lester Wolfe (although I'm told that they may not have been legally married). Shown with 2 daughters Kay (Charlotte) Wolfe and Gail Wolfe (my mother).

I keep hitting a dead end with everything I've tried to do online.

Thanks Margaret.

Re: Obit Lookup - Smith/Ellis

Posted: 25 Jun 2013 11:45PM GMT
Classification: Query
This is a Massachusetts board - you might want to post on NY in case that's where she died.

Margaret

Re: Obit Lookup - Smith/Ellis

Posted: 26 Jun 2013 1:06PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 26 Jun 2013 8:46PM GMT
Surnames: Ellis, Delario, Smith, Wolfe, Avery
Something is missing here. Annie and Frank were married in New Bedford in 1893.
Massachusetts, Marriage Records, 1840-1915 about Frank E Ellis
Name: Frank E Ellis
Birth Year: abt 1865
Birth Place: New Bedford
Marriage Date: 29 Apr 1893
Marriage Place: New Bedford, Massachusetts, USA
Age at Marriage: 28
Father: Truman B Delario
Mother: Sarah E Delario
Spouse: Annie Y Smith
Spouse Birth Place: New Bedford
Spouse Age at Marriage: 20
Spouse Father: Ralph
Spouse Mother: Jessie

Gladys Wolfe, per the census of 1940 was born in 1914. The 1920 Census of New Bedford shows a 6yr old niece named Gladys S Ellis living with Frank and Annie.
1920 United States Federal Census about Frank E Ellis
Name: Frank E Ellis
Age: 55
Birth Year: abt 1865
Birthplace: Massachusetts
Home in 1920: New Bedford Ward 3, Bristol, Massachusetts
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Annie Ellis
Father's Birthplace: Massachusetts
Mother's Birthplace: Massachusetts
Home Owned: Rent
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Frank E Ellis 55
Annie Ellis 47
Alexander Ellis 11 (Son)
Rhoda Avery 80 (Aunt)
Eliza A Ellis 69 (Sister)
Gladys Ellis 6 (Niece)

So are you looking for Annie or Gladys?

John

Re: Obit Lookup - Smith/Ellis

Posted: 26 Jun 2013 1:14PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 26 Jun 2013 8:48PM GMT
Surnames: Ellis, Smith, Wilcox
There was a Gladys S Ellis born in 1913, parents Frank Ellis and Ellen Smith...
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FXVN-V6K

Also recorded as mother name of Nellie, with no surname...
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12344-207997-78...

Same date of birth. The Ellen Smith record was registered June 12, 1913. The Nellie record was registered Jan 3, 1914.

Frank and Annie had a son Frank Jr. I assume he is the father of Gladys.

His WWI draft card lists him as married with 2 children.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KZN3-1GJ

Here is a possible fit for him in 1920, on Cedar St but at a different address. Caroline was likely a Wilcox as his in-laws are living with them.
1920 United States Federal Census about Frank Ellis
Name: Frank Ellis
Age: 26
Birth Year: abt 1894
Birthplace: Massachusetts
Home in 1920: New Bedford Ward 3, Bristol, Massachusetts
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Caroline Ellis
Father's Birthplace: Massachusetts
Mother's Birthplace: Massachusetts
Home Owned: Own
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Frank Ellis 26
Caroline Ellis 23
Eleanor Ellis 3 3/12
Albert Wilcox 48
Mary Wilcox 46

It's possible that Gladys was born out of wedlock, and was really Frank and Annie's grandchild, but recorded as Niece. Purely speculation on my part.

Re: Obit Lookup - Smith/Ellis

Posted: 2 Jul 2013 2:42PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 3 Jul 2013 5:07AM GMT
Surnames: Smith, Ellis
jjcaffrey,

Thanks for the info. I had found the Gladys S. birth info before and felt it was very possibly her. Although I have no way of confirming, I agree with you, it seems likely that Gladys S was Annie and Frank Sr. granddaughter, rather than their niece. Hadn't seen the draft card for Frank Jr before. Thanks for that. I really appreciate your help. :)

Esther

Re: Obit Lookup - Smith/Ellis

Posted: 11 Oct 2013 1:47PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 12 Oct 2013 8:36PM GMT
Surnames: Smith, Ellis
JJcaffrey,

I'm back at it again. Still trying to find whatever I can about Gladys. I read through this entire thread again and realize that I caused some confusion upfront and didn't answer your question. Although, ultimately I'm trying to track down info on Gladys, this initial post was to try and find an obit for Annie Y (Smith) Ellis. My mom was left with an "Aunt" Annie by her mom Gladys, and I want to confirm if this Annie would have still been alive up until 1952. I can't find her on the 1930 or 1940 census, and haven't had any luck locating a death record. I did make contact with Frank Jr and Caroline's grandson, but he hasn't been able to help confirm anything. Thanks again for everything you've located to this point.

Esther

Re: Obit Lookup - Smith/Ellis

Posted: 11 Oct 2013 2:14PM GMT
Classification: Query
do you know where in New York they were was it city or state?
Tina

Re: Obit Lookup - Smith/Ellis

Posted: 11 Oct 2013 2:20PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 12 Oct 2013 8:37PM GMT
Surnames: Wolfe
Tina,

In 1940 they were in Troy.

1940 United States Federal Census about Gladys Wolfe
Name: Gladys Wolfe
Respondent: Yes
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1914
Gender: Female
Race: White
Birthplace: Massachusetts
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Home in 1940: Troy, Rensselaer, New York
Map of Home in 1940: View Map
Street: Eight Street
House Number: 400
Inferred Residence in 1935: New Bedford, Massachusetts
Residence in 1935: New Bedford, Massachusetts
Resident on farm in 1935: No
Sheet Number: 2B
Attended School or College: No
Highest Grade Completed: High School, 1st year
Weeks Worked in 1939: 0
Income: 0
Income Other Sources: No
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Lester Wolfe 29
Gladys Wolfe 26
Kay Wolfe 1
Gail Wolfe 0

John
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