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Howard Hudson, Detroit, Wayne Co., MI

Howard Hudson, Detroit, Wayne Co., MI

Posted: 30 Oct 2003 5:14PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 22 Oct 2005 7:41PM GMT
Surnames: HAINES, HUDSON, FENTON, Weise, Lippincott, Best
Still seeking information on Howard HUDSON aka Henry HUDSON aka Howard HAINES b. ca 1847/1857 possibly in New Orleans, LA, d. 1929 Detroit MI. Married 3rd Mary Lucinda FENTON July 9, 1899 in Delanco, Burlington Co., NJ. Howard and Mary may have remarried in Michigan as first marriage in New Jersey was illegal.

Had children:
Howard H. HUDSON b. 4/16/1900 NJ d. 3/12/1974MI m. Margaret WEISE

Gladys HAINES b. 8/1/1901 NJ d. NJ m. Roland LIPPINCOTT

Helen Emory L. HUDSON b. 9/1/1904 MI d. 6/12/1994 MI

Owen Donald HUDSON b. 2/29/1908 MI d. 4/1969 MI

Mary Buzby HUDSON b. 6/26/1909 MI d. 2/12/1995 MI m. Alger BEST

Any information at all on Howard Sr. would be much appreciated. Especially seeking actual name, birthplace and date of birth.

Thank you,
JC Bozarth

Re: Howard Hudson, Detroit, Wayne Co., MI

Posted: 6 Jan 2013 7:09PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello again. This is my 2nd post/reply. Need information: why was the marriage considered illegal in New Jersey, that they were compelled to marry again in Michigan? Thanks. Janis Rozich.

Re: Howard Hudson, Detroit, Wayne Co., MI

Posted: 7 Jan 2013 2:39PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 7 Jan 2013 3:26PM GMT
Surnames: Hudson, Haines

I’m not related to any member of this family.

1940 is the last available census at this time.


1930 -
Name: Mary Hudson
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1862
[abt 1872]
Birthplace: New Jersey
Race: White
Home in 1930: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan
View Map
Marital Status: Widowed
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Mother's Birthplace: New Jersey
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:
Parents' birthplace:
Mary Hudson 68, NJ - accountant for general office

she lives next to son -
Name: Owen Hudson
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1906
Birthplace: Michigan
Race: White
Home in 1930: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Helen Hudson
Father's Birthplace: New Jersey
Mother's Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Occupation:
Age at first marriage: 23
Parents' birthplace: NJ/PA

Owen Hudson 24, MI - clothing salesman
Helen Hudson 22, OH - Age at first marriage: 21
Parents' birthplace: La/NJ






1920 -
Name: Howard Hudson
Age: 45
Birth Year: abt 1875
Birthplace: Louisiana
Home in 1920: Detroit Ward 14, Wayne, Michigan
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Mary Hudson
Father's Birthplace: Maine
Mother's Birthplace: Louisiana
Home owned: Own
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes

Howard Hudson 45, LA - traveling salesman
Mary Hudson 45, NJ
Helen Hudson 15, OH
Irven Hudson 11, MI
Busby Hudson 10, MI


1910 -
Name: Howard H Hudson
Age in 1910: 44
Birth Year: abt 1866
Birthplace: Louisiana
Home in 1910: Detroit Ward 14, Wayne, Michigan
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
Marital Status: Married = 10
Spouse's Name: Mary L Hudson
Father's Birthplace: Louisiana
Mother's Birthplace: New Hampshire

Howard H Hudson 44, La - 1st marriage, manager of paint factory
Mary L Hudson 29, NJ - 6 children & 5 living
Howard Hudson 9, NJ
Helen E Hudson 5, OH
Owen D Hudson 2, MI
Buzby M. Hudson 9m, MI

1900 -
Name: Howard Haines
Age: 42
Birth Date: May 1857
Birthplace: Louisiana
Home in 1900: Beverly, Burlington, New Jersey
[Burlington]
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Marly L Haines
Marriage Year: 1900
Years Married: 0
Father's Birthplace: New York
Mother's Birthplace: Louisiana
Occupation:

Howard Haines 42, 5/57 LA - saw salesman
Marly L Haines 30, 8/70 NJ
Gwendoline Haines 1, 6/98 Maryland [where is she in 1910??]
Howard Haines 1m, 4/00 NJ


The questions to be asked should be - WHY did Howard use an alias??

He only claimed 1 marriage on the 1910 census. WHO else did he marry???



Re: Howard Hudson, Detroit, Wayne Co., MI

Posted: 7 Jan 2013 4:42PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: HUDSON, HAINES, FRANCK, BUZBY, FENTON
Thank you for taking the time to look up and post this information.

Howard Hudson was apparently into remaking himself to fit any occasion. He married:

11 Oct 1888 in Washington DC
Henry HUDSON Jr. res. Baltimore, MD birthplace New Orleans, LA to: Marie POSTON res. Washington, DC birthplace Virginia by: Samuel W. Haddaway, Minister of the Gospel

14 Jul 1897 in Baltimore, MD
PHILADELPHIA INQUIRER - Married HAINES-FRANCK - On July 14, 1897 at the residence of the bride's parents, Baltimore, MD, by the Rev. J.M. Zimmerman, Minnie L. FRANCK to Howard HAINES of New York.

9 Jul 1899 in Delanco, NJ
Howard HAINES age 42 Boston MA to Mary L. FENTON 29 Bridgeboro, NJ July 9, 1899 Rev. Geo. Whitfield; Witness Jean Russell

By newspaper accounts, he forgot to divorce the first wife before marrying the second and third.

Minnie FRANCK (the second wife and mother of Gwendoline HAINES), died 21 Apr 1899 NJ of Septicemia.

Gwendoline HAINES b. Jun 1898 MD d. 31 Mar 1901 NJ.

Howard and Mary's second child, Gladys HAINES b. 12 Aug 1901 NJ, lived in NJ and was raised by her grandmother Mary Ann BUZBY/FENTON and appears there in the 1910 census.

Howard and Mary, with their son Howard Jr, left NJ in Apr 1902, moved to Ohio and then Detroit and somewhere along the way changed their last name from HAINES back to HUDSON.

At this point, I still have not found any document to confirm the year and place of Howard's birth or if his original name was actually Henry HUDSON.

Regards,
JC Henry

Re: Howard Hudson, Detroit, Wayne Co., MI

Posted: 7 Jan 2013 4:48PM GMT
Classification: Query
MICH. - death cert. record - 1897 to 1920 = FREE

http://cdm16317.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/search/collection/p12...

Re: Howard Hudson, Detroit, Wayne Co., MI

Posted: 7 Jan 2013 5:17PM GMT
Classification: Query
This is great site and I have used it for other MI relatives, but records only go to 1920, Howard d. 1929. I have not found any MI death records online after 1920.

Regards,
JC Henry

Re: Howard Hudson, Detroit, Wayne Co., MI

Posted: 7 Jan 2013 5:23PM GMT
Classification: Query
That's correct.

You will need to order a death cert. from Detroit.

Q. Where do I go to get a birth certificate or death certificate?
A. The Detroit Health Department, Vital Records Division, Herman Kiefer Health Complex, 1151 Taylor (zip 48202-1732) near the John C. Lodge expressway. The phone numbers are 313-876-4049 [recorded message] and 313-876-4133. Person must have died in Wayne County, Michigan & within the city limits of Detroit. Cost is $20.00. Call first before ordering as pricing may have changed. Hours are 8 – 4pm Eastern time SHARP Mon - Fri. FREE parking. Cash, certified check, money order are accepted. Phone lookups will not be done. A walk-in service is available. Public browsing of the records is not permitted. Make payment to – City of Detroit.

DO NOT REQUEST A DEATH CERT. FOR A MARRIED WOMAN USING HER MAIDEN NAME.

Personal checks or credit/debit cards are not accepted.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Wayne County excluding Detroit but within Wayne county, Michigan
Cost is $22.00

Cathy M. Garrett- Clerk of Wayne County
C/o Birth and Death Records Division
201 Coleman A. Young Municipal Center
Detroit, Mi 48226

http://www.waynecounty.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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State of Michigan Requests:
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/howto/w2w/michigan.htm

http://www.michigan.gov/mdch/0,1607,7-132-4645_4671-9471--,0...

Re: Howard Hudson, Detroit, Wayne Co., MI

Posted: 7 Jan 2013 6:13PM GMT
Classification: Query
When I visited the City of Detroit vital records office 2 weeks ago, the clerk was very helpful. She located and made a copy of a 1960 death cert. But she could not find ones for 1954 & 1967. She confided to me that most of the older death certs were boxed up last year for a planned move to a new location. However the move never happened and it is unlikely that it will ever happen. The clerk told me that the best option if you want a cert older than 1970 is to order it from the State of Michigan. This would definitely be true for a death in 1929, as Detroit has not held those records for several years. The web site for the State is http://www.michigan.gov/mdch/0,1607,7-132-4645---,00.html (VitalChek will cost more than going directly to the State, but you will have the record in a couple of days.)

Re: Howard Hudson, Detroit, Wayne Co., MI

Posted: 7 Jan 2013 6:49PM GMT
Classification: Query
Did U go to the records office at Herman Kiefer Hospital?

Never use a 3rd party for death records.
As you might receive an abbreviated copy of the cert.

Re: Howard Hudson, Detroit, Wayne Co., MI

Posted: 27 Jan 2013 4:57AM GMT
Classification: Query
Herman Keifer doesn't have death records this old. They send you to the State of Michigan Community Health Department. They don't bother to let you know this until you show up down there, like I did last summer, looking for a death certificate from 1924. Urg.
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