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Michael Sullivan b 1787 Thomastown and Mary McDaniel born 1790 Knocktopher

Michael Sullivan b 1787 Thomastown and Mary McDaniel born 1790 Knocktopher

Posted: 11 Dec 2013 10:40PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Sullivan - McDaniel
I am trying to find the ancestors and/or any siblings of Michael Sullivan, baptized July 9, 1787 in Thomastown, His father is Daniel Sullivan, mother Bridget (no last name recorded). The sponsors were John Keys and Anastatia Murphy. Michael left Ireland in 1811, emigrating to St. John's, Newfoundland on the infamous Schooner Fanny.

Mary McDaniel married Michael Sullivan in 1814 in St. John's, Newfoundland. The marriage information states she came from Knocktopher. The only baptism record I could find for Mary McDaniel is dated January 27, 1790, St. Canice's Parish. Paqrents are John McDaniel and Catherine Cahel with the sponsor Bridget Lynch. I have not been able to find emigration records for Mary McDaniel from Ireland to Newfoundland.

Any information or helpful hints would really be appreciated. Thanks.

Re: Michael Sullivan b 1787 Thomastown and Mary McDaniel born 1790 Knocktopher

Posted: 30 Jan 2014 2:31AM GMT
Classification: Query
This is quite early for irish genealogy.

The Tithe Applotments 1823-1837 now used as a census substitute.

Kilkenny: 50 Sullivan's.

Daniel Sullivan, Parish Coolagh, Townland Tenahill 1827 (Poor Law Union Callan)

Daniel Sullivan, Parish Castlecomer, TL Castlecomer 1823(PLU Castlecomer & Kilkenny)

D & Daniel Sullivan x 4 Parish of Killaloe, TL Rossmore 1833 (Plu Callan)

McDaniel, 69 listed in the Tithes, there is an Owen McDaniel, living Knocktopher Parish and Sheepstown Common 1830.

The University of Newbrunswick have recently put their shipping/passenger records on line, not sure though if Newfoundland would be included with those. I was at the archives in St. John but was looking for parish records, so don't know about passenger records.

There maybe emigration records but not necessarily transcribed. You could try the National Library or the National Archives in Dublin, or even PRONI, Belfast. Some genealogy offices show
emigration records but for only a few counties.

www.theshipslist.com if you havent looked there might be helpful.

Thomastown was also a Parishm a townland also a Poor Law Union town. It would cover 12 mi. with all parish's, villages, towns, townlands contained in that area.

Knocktofer, Knocktopher, Knoktover are the various spellings given for this small town, in the Union of Thomastown.
I believe St. Canice is in the town of Kilkenny and is a Cathedral with a Round Tower, within the medieval walls.

Parish records for Kilkenny are on line with www.rootsireland.ie a pay website. Most genealogy of Ireland has a cost.

The parish records for Knocktopher do not start till 1882-1910 for the Church of Ireland

Thomastown from 1782-1911; St. Canice from 1768-1911

I saw a film about the 'coffin ship' Hannah several times and also the research involved tracing one families history back to Ireland, its been on various channels here in Canada, however, the date it seems to me was more the 1840's than pre-1814.

I've been to Ireland several times and never found immigration records for my husband's family.
If they lived on an Estate you might find them in estate emigration records but not if they left of their own accord.

Annette Code

Re: Michael Sullivan b 1787 Thomastown and Mary McDaniel born 1790 Knocktopher

Posted: 30 Jan 2014 3:02PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thank you, Annette. I am going to read this a bit more thoroughly this morning and I know I will have a lot of questions. I did go to the Roots Ireland pay website and found some even more confusing information about births, marriages, etc. If possible, I would like to contact you off list. I am not sure if it is a good idea to post e-mail addresses on the list, but you could contact me through my public member tree and we could then chat off list a bit. http://trees.ancestry.ca/tree/50304865/family is the small Sullivan tree.

I appreciate the information.
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