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Whelehan family

Ben Whelehan (View posts)
Posted: 26 Oct 2000 12:00PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: WHELEHAN
my ancestors come from Mountrath (Montrath), County Westmeath.The nearest village was Tyrrelspass.My ancestors name was James Joseph Whelehan who married Catherine nee Hogan.My grandfather moved to Liverpool just after the First World War.

Any details about my greatgrandfather would be very helpful.All I know is he died in the early 1940's and is buried near Tyrrelpass.

Any new information would be welcome.

Ben Whelehan

Re: Whelehan family

Posted: 3 Jun 2002 6:14PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 3 Jun 2002 6:36PM GMT
Hi Ben,
I'm afraid I cannot be of much help, but your grandfather would have been a contemporary of my own. The name seems to have originated in Westmeath and is found around there still, though like elswhere it is rare (not big breeders, the Whelehans) The original name in Irish is O'Faoileachaun (phonetically) and means approximatly "fond of fun, frolicksome" - in other words they were party animals. The word is related to the Irish word for butterfly which tells one something about the characteristic.
My grandfather's name was Peter and he lived in Broadstone, in Dublin, was married and had two children John Francis (my dad) and William (who was never married and had no children he would admit to) - more follows.

Re: Whelehan family

Declan (View posts)
Posted: 3 Jun 2002 6:20PM GMT
Classification: Query
Further........
My great,greatgrandfather was married to a woman in Edmondstown, Co. Longford where they had an Inn.
My grandfather, Peter worked on the railway (railroad) as did my father and uncle.
My father claimed that we came from a long line of sheepstealers.

Not much of a contribution to your search, I know, but the best I can do.

Re: Whelehan family

Posted: 24 Oct 2002 7:36AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi My name is Loretta Troy and I thought I could add to some.
My family of seven have migrated to Australia.
My mothers maiden name is Whelehan. She married my father who's last name is Troy. My mothers mothers married mame is Smullen. My mother had 12 brothers and sisters in total. Some names I will mention, Nuala, Kit, Pacho,Joan Susan.
get back if any of these ring a bell.
Thanks Loretta,
Emailing from Australia!!.

Re: Whelehan family

Posted: 10 Feb 2003 8:51PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 10 Feb 2003 9:04PM GMT

If your looking for your ancestors, try look up Mountrath in County Laois, instead of Westmeath, good luck in your search!!!


Re: Whelehan family

Posted: 29 Oct 2007 12:50AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Ben
As Declan said the Whelehan name originates from Westmeath. My maiden name is Whelehan. My father was Sean Whelehan, born in Derrymore (near Kinnegad, Westmeath. Youngest of six boys, Ted, Tommy, Paddy, Mike, Lawrence and my dad. My uncle Ted is the only surviving brother and actually lives in Victoria, Australia. He may know the Whelehan's you are looking for. I will be talking to him for his 80th birthday next month and will ask if he knows anything.
Sinead emailing from Canada (originally from Co.Armagh)

Re: Whelehan family

Posted: 29 Oct 2007 8:55AM GMT
Classification: Query
Shaz14, there is indeed a Montrath in County Westmeath, not to be confused with Mountrath in County Laois. Montrath in County Westmeath is a townland of just under 1,000 acres in the civil parish of Rahugh.

Many Irish placenames are repeated in many counties, even the same placename can appear in several locations within the same county. Because Irish placenames are generally from the original Irish language and are descriptive of the geography or topography of their location. they're often not just found once or in just one county.

Jack

Re: Whelehan family

Posted: 29 Oct 2007 9:51AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Whelehan and Hogan
Dear Jack McBride,

Thank you for your email.Thank you for your email . I bought an Irish equivalent of the Ordnance Survey map of Westmeath, and was glad to find Montrath is definitely in Westmeath. It's funny because the family history centre in Dublin, said there was no place in Westmeath with that name!
My father used to go there a lot as a child and teenager.My ggrandfather's family had a farm in Montrath.I know my Greatgrandmother was a Hogan from County Offaly which is just over the county border.Montrath could easily have been in Offaly! Hopefully Dublin will update their records!

Re: Whelehan family

Posted: 29 Oct 2007 12:43PM GMT
Classification: Query
Ben, Dublin is like a separate country from the rest of Ireland so it doesn't surprise me that you were given that information.

If the Family History Centre you used in Dublin was the Genealogy Service at the National Library or National Archives, that was staffed by members of a professional genealogy organisation whose members all live in Dublin and who were employed to staff the genealogy services on a contract basis. Many of them would have no or very limited knowledge of places or records available at either archival source for Westmeath or other locations outside Dublin which they'd consider "down the country". However, that organisation's contract has not been renewed so hopefully each of those archival locations will get staff more familiar with places elsewhere in the country or the available records to find information about them.

If you went to the General Register Office, staff there aren't genealogists at all, and most of them have no genealogical research experience and wouldn't have to in order to provide the civil registrations records there for people to search since all the records are in date order for each of the bmds.

Many people in that area of Westmeath and across the border in County Offaly have family connections because families went back and forth for employment, housing or socialisation. The county border wouldn't make any difference or be a barrier for the family connections.

Jack

Re: Whelehan family

Posted: 29 Oct 2007 12:53PM GMT
Classification: Query
Dear Jack,

Yes I got that feeling (I must admit it was a few years ago). But I was rather disappointed.

Yes , I'm not surprised that people crossed over the border.I did n't realise it was so close to Offaly.I have had trouble going back further than my Great Grandfather who called James Joseph Whelehan. I even managed to find his gravestone in Tyrrelspass

I also have Cork roots too. The family name there was Guiney

Thanks for your info.All the best Ben Whelehan
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