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Ray Holder dob:1/24/1886

Ray Holder dob:1/24/1886

Mahonna (View posts)
Posted: 30 Oct 1999 3:20AM GMT
My grandfather was born in Missouri.
He settled in Alex,OK sometime around 1910. On the census sheet that I have it states that he is white, but, my mother has told me that he is "Cherokee Indian"? Sound familiar to you????? (:>

agnes ada Holder Smith

Posted: 30 Oct 1999 5:51AM GMT
Edited: 21 Nov 2001 8:28PM GMT
would like any info on subj. as she was my mother until she left us. She was born to Franklin Holder Martha Jane King Holder7/31/1910 in Grove-
Deleware Co-Okla she Married george W Smith 1924 and had 5 children left them all in 1935.Her Bro Clyde took me when I was 3 Then I was adopted 1939.

Agnes Ada Holder

Posted: 2 Nov 1999 5:58AM GMT
Edited: 30 May 2004 5:26PM GMT
Wesley,

If you can tell me more about Agnes Ada Holder, her brothers or sisters, or parents, I might be able to help.

Bill Holder

climax.springs@worldnet.att.net

Holder-Barbados

Lisa Holder (View posts)
Posted: 8 Dec 1999 11:05AM GMT
I always thought the Holder family originated from Europe. My grandfather Constantine Holder was born in Barbados in the earyl 1900's. Does this mean anything to you.

Holder-Barbados

Mahonna (View posts)
Posted: 9 Dec 1999 8:54AM GMT
Sorry Lisa I don't think there is any connection. Unless you know if any of your family was from Oklahoma? My grandfather, Ray B. Holder, was originally from Missouri and was born in 1886. If this sounds familar to you, please let me know. If not, I really appreciate your time and if I hear anything about a Holder-Barbados connection I will forward it to you. Have a great day! (:>

Holder-Barbados

Mahonna (View posts)
Posted: 9 Dec 1999 8:55AM GMT
Sorry Lisa I don't think there is any connection. Unless you know if any of your family was from Oklahoma? My grandfather, Ray B. Holder, was originally from Missouri and was born in 1886. If this sounds familar to you, please let me know. If not, I really appreciate your time and if I hear anything about a Holder-Barbados connection I will forward it to you. Have a great day! (:>

thanks

Lisa (View posts)
Posted: 9 Dec 1999 10:20AM GMT
Unfortunately, I don't know of any connection in Ok. Sorry. and thanks for the help.

Raymond Benjamin Holder - Hypothetical descendant tree

Posted: 29 Dec 1999 12:04PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 30 May 2004 5:26PM GMT
This should be the line you are looking for, please use this information as a map, and check it out.

Direct Descendants of Davis Edward Holder

1 Davis Edward Holder b: Bef. 1720 prob - Prince William (Fauquier) Co., VA d: Bet. 1784 - 1785 prob - Pittsylvania Co., VA
.. +Susannah Hardin b: Bet. 1720 - 1726 Prince William (Fauquier) Co., Va. m: Abt. 1740 d: Bertie Co., NC ?
2 Hardin Holder b: Bef. 1740 prob - Prince William (Fauquier) Co., Va.
2 Davis Holder, Jr b: Abt. 1740
2 Elizabeth Holder b: Abt. 1748
2 Hannah Holder b: Abt. 1749 VA
2 John Holder b: 1749 Prince William (Fauquier) Co., VA : 1812 Franklin Co., TN tax rolls d: 1830 Jackson Co., AL
... +Agnes Bledsoe b: Bet. 1750 - 1752 NC m: Abt. 1770 d: Abt. 1830 prob Jackson Co., AL
3 Tassy Holder b: Bet. 1770 - 1791 : 1812 Franklin Co., TN tax rolls
3 Thomas Martin Holder b: Abt. 1775 Surry Co., NC d: 1823
3 Moses Franklin Holder b: Abt. 1780 d: Abt. 1870 Big Coon, Jackson Co., AL ?
3 Bledsoe Holder, Bletcher b: December 20, 1783 Chickasaw Nation, TN d: August 14, 1861 Pottsboro, in Grayson Co., TX
.... +Elizabeth Ann Stewart, Betsy b: Abt. 1793 TN, SC 1/8 - 3/8 Chickasaw indian m: 1815 Indian Territory of Mississippi 1815 (Alabama) d: 1879 OK or TX
. 4 Amanda B. Holder b: January 1816 Chickasaw Nation, Franklin Co., TN 1/16 - 3/16 indian d: 1907 Rock Prairie, Dade Co., MO.
. 4 Samantha Ann Holder, Susan b: 1818 Chickasaw Nation, Franklin Co., TN 1/16 - 3/16 indian d: Aft. 1896 Masson Springs, TX
. 4 William Lawson Holder, Square b: 1820 Chickasaw Nation, Jackson Co., AL 1/16 - 3/16 indian d: November 23, 1876 Denison, Grayson Co., TX
. 4 Martin Austin Holder b: March 3, 1824 Chickasaw Nation, Jackson Co., AL - 1/16 - 3/16 indian d: May 10, 1889 Walnut Grove, Polk Co., MO
..... +Mary Jane Kirby McGary b: 1827 KY m: October 27, 1843 Bolivar, Polk Co., MO
.. 5 Henrietta Holder b: 1842 Dade Co., MO
.. 5 Amanda Josephine Holder b: 1844 Dadeville, Dade Co., MO
.. 5 Mary Jane Holder b: Bet. 1844 - 1845
.. 5 Benjamin Franklin Holder b: 1845 Dadeville, Everton Co., MO d: 1920
...... +Nancy Margaret Geneva Denby, Sis b: 1850 Walnut Grove, Greene Co., MO d: 1938
... 6 Eva H. Holder b: 1869 Walnut Grove, Greene Co., MO
... 6 Herschel H. Holder b: September 13, 1878 Walnut Grove, Greene Co., MO d: February 1973 Springfield, Greene Co., MO
... 6 Wilma Holder b: Bet. 1879 - 1881 Walnut Grove, Greene Co., MO
... 6 Mary Jane Holder b: 1882 Walnut Grove, Greene Co., MO
... 6 Pearl Holder b: 1884
... 6 Raymond Benjamin Holder b: January 24, 1886 Walnut Grove, Greene Co., MO d: January 1968 Alex, Grandy Co., OK 73002
... 6 Goldie Holder b: 1888 Walnut Grove, Greene Co., MO d: 1983
... 6 Chester Allen Holder b: 1890 Walnut Grove, Greene Co., MO d: 1968
.. 5 David Rhalls Holder b: February 13, 1852 Dadeville, Dade Co., MO d: 1905
.. 5 Nancy Elizabeth Holder b: 1854 Dadeville, Dade Co., MO d: 1939
.. 5 Martin Columbus Holder b: 1856 Dadeville, Dade Co., MO d: 1933 shows up in Directory of Woods Co., OK
.. 5 Tully Bledsoe Holder b: 1858 Dade Co., MO d: shows up in Directory of Woods Co., OK
.. 5 Serena Frances Holder, Fanny b: 1860 Dade Co., MO
.. 5 John Kirby Holder b: Bet. 1861 - 1863
.. 5 Florence A. Holder b: 1864 Dade Co., MO d: 1916
.. 5 Alma H Holder b: 1866 Everton, Dade Co., MO
. *2nd Wife of Martin Austin Holder:
..... +Elizabeth Jane Leeper, Betsy b: Abt. 1840 KY m: January 8, 1873 Bolivar, Polk Co., MO
.. 5 Aris Holder b: 1874 Dadeville, Dade Co., MO d: 1962
.. 5 Anvern L Holder b: 1877 Dadeville, Dade Co., MO
.. 5 Jessie Holder b: 1880 Dadeville, Dade Co., MO
.. 5 Attie Holder b: 1882 Dadeville, Dade Co., MO
. 4 James Lewis Holder, Lewis b: 1825 Chickasaw Nation, Jackson Co., AL - 1/16 - 3/16 indian d: 1863 Grayson Co., TX
. 4 John Charles Holder b: 1827 Jackson Co., AL - 1/16 - 3/16 indian d: Bet. 1890 - 1900 Buckley, Greene Co., MO
. 4 Lemuel Holder b: 1828 Chickasaw Nation, Jackson Co., AL - 1/16 - 3/16 indian d: 1850 Dade Co., MO
. 4 Moses Franklin Holder b: February 7, 1833 Jackson Co., AL - 1/16 - 3/16 indian d: May 7, 1887 Walnut Grove, Polk Co., MO
. 4 Argillous Jackson Holder, Argile Or Jack b: 1834 Chickasaw Nation , Jackson Co., AL - 1/16 - 3/16 indian d: Grayson Co., TX
. 4 Benjamin Benton Holder b: 1836 Polk Co., MO - 1/16 - 3/16 indian d: 1904 OK
. 4 Burton Allen Holder b: 1843 Polk Co., MO - 1/16 - 3/16 indian d: TX or OK
3 John Holder b: 1792 NC : living 1812 Franklin Co., TN d: July 29, 1870 Jackson Co., AL near Anderson, TN
3 Mark Holder b: 1802 TN : living 1812 Franklin Co., TN: 1818 d: Bef. 1860 possibly Franklin Co., TN
2 Benjamin Holder b: Bef. 1750 not verified that this is the right Benjamin Holder
2 Jesse Holder b: Abt. 1750 Bertie Co., NC d: January 1, 1802 Laurens Co., SC
2 William Holder b: 1752 Prince William (Fauquier) Co., VA d: December 30, 1832 near Brown's Ford, Allen Co., KY
2 Levicy Holder b: Abt. 1755 d: Abt. 1835 Marlboro Co., SC
2 Martha Holder, Mary b: Abt. 1755
2 Daniel Holder b: 1757 lived in Union Co., SC bef 1810 d: April 3, 1843 Union Co., SC
2 Susannah Holder, Susan b: Abt. 1770

A Lot of Time - Holder!

Mahonna (View posts)
Posted: 30 Dec 1999 12:40AM GMT
Thank you so very much for the information on Raymond Benjamin Holder. Boy! have you done your homework. And "BINGO"! this is the lost link that I have been looking for. My mother had told me that she thought that Grandpa was Cherokee Indian, guess she was wrong. Ray married a Chickasaw Indian, Caline Morris. They had three children, two boys - William and John Thomas, and a girl - Geneva. My fathers name is William Franklin, or Bill Holder. Must be a popular family name!

Holder-Barbados

bobbi (View posts)
Posted: 18 Mar 2000 12:48PM GMT
My great grandparents are holders from Barbados and Jamaca, Herbert and Eva Holder. If anyone should have a connection please feel free to email me.
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