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Joseph Jelley/Andrew Jackson Jelley

Joseph Jelley/Andrew Jackson Jelley

Posted: 22 Sep 2001 5:08AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 13 Oct 2001 1:35AM GMT
I have read about all of the Jelley messages and do not find any that seem to match with what I am looking for. My husband's ancestors are Jelley. The information that I have from the family Bible at his grandmother'slistsJoseph Jelley, born July 1800, in Ireland. He married Mary P. Dushane,( bd. 8-26-1802), on 4-12-1821. Joseph Jelly died 3-8-1864 and is buried in Waverly, Tennessee. Mary died 6-13- 1849 and is buried in Paducah, KY. Their children were Susanah, Fanny Jane, Susan, Rebecca E. Mararet H., Mary C., and Andrew Jackson Jelley (our connetion) born Jan 13, 1837. Died in 1923 and is buried in North Loup, Nebraska. Andrew Jackson was married to Naomi (or Naoma or Neoma) Ann Kelley or Fillmore. We have clippings with two different names. Grandma says that she was raised by President Fillmore's family so she may have been Kelley but used Fillmore. They were married in 1858 or 1859. She died 3-6-1916 and is buried in North Loup, NE also. Do any of these names ring a bell with anyone? We know that we can look for some documents in some of the counties but none of these people show up on any searches any where. With a name like Andrew Jackson Jelley (we have some military records for him) you should really be easy to find.
Any info from anyone would be appreciated.

Thanks!
Chris Wegner

Re: Joseph Jelley/Andrew Jackson Jelley

Posted: 6 Oct 2001 11:05AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 11 Aug 2002 8:40PM GMT
Surnames: jelly/jelley
dear sir
I had thought i might share an ancestry I am looking for a joseph jelly born ireland 1800 possibly or pa. He is found in the 1860 census of iowa with john jelly and is visiting from the looks of it. the baby joseph is only a few months old. the family was farm labors and moved every few years. they had margaret, joseph, and sarah. the wifes name is parthina. john jelly the son remarried in 1860 in tn to eda a. johnson. they had a daughter effa in 1873. there are simply no joseph jellys in the census i can find. is there any possibility he had a son named john?

Re: Joseph Jelley/Andrew Jackson Jelley

Posted: 9 Oct 2001 4:01AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 13 Oct 2001 1:35AM GMT
In rereading the letter that accompanied the entries in the family Bible, my Joseph Jelley, born July 1800 in Ireland, did have a son named John who was born between 1827 and 1832 (the letter-writer thought). Looking at the birth dates of the rest of the children, I think that is probably the correct placement in birth order. My guess is that he was born in 1829 or 1830. some of them were in Iowa. The letter says that John Jelley is buried in Graves Co. Kentrucky.

Re: Joseph Jelley/Andrew Jackson Jelley

Posted: 9 Oct 2001 4:35AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 11 Aug 2002 8:40PM GMT
Surnames: jelley/jelly
dear sir.
I am afraid to hope that it is mine. But there is a chance this is the first joseph jelly having a john I have ever heard of. I have been looking for a very long time too. in the 1860 census they are in iow. there is another john jelly but he is muscatine co and is not mine. Mine gives his birth hold your breath around 1830-32. do you have any information in what cemetery in graves county he is in. or what year he died or anything at all.

Re: Joseph Jelley/Andrew Jackson Jelley

Posted: 9 Oct 2001 7:22PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 13 Oct 2001 1:35AM GMT
I do not know what cemetery John Jelley was buried in- I doubt that there are that many in that county( Graves Co., Kentucky) - but I have not researched that far to find out, so I don't really know. The birth year would be approximately right since the letter that I had said that he was born between sisters Rebecca (9-19-1827) and Margaret H. (5-18-1832). John was the only one that she did not list the exact birth date. I do not have a death date. Did I say in previous information that his father, Joseph Jelley, was born in Ireland, July 1800, died March 8, 1864 - buried in Hampshire Co., at Waverly Tennessee.

Re: Joseph Jelley/Andrew Jackson Jelley

Posted: 9 Oct 2001 9:19PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 11 Aug 2002 8:40PM GMT
Surnames: jelley/ jelly
hi
maybe we connect, hope so. Could you please give me the dates and full name of all the childen of joseph jelly and any scraps or stories about them? however vague! please note, that there is no hampshire co, or waverly co. hampshire is a town in maury co, and waverly is a town in humprehys co. So off to the hunt for his grave we go. I am very excited to have found you and am hoping it is my jelley. We have a lot of matching dates and names.
thanks carolann

Re: Joseph Jelley/Andrew Jackson Jelley

Posted: 10 Oct 2001 4:02AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 13 Oct 2001 1:35AM GMT
I will type for you exactly what is on the hand-written information that is from my husband's grandmother's family Bible.

Family Record

Joseph Jelley and Mary Dushane married April 12, 1821

Their children
Susanah Born Jan 26, 1822 died June 28, 1822
Fanny Jane born July 7, 1823
Susan, third child, born Aug. 28, 1825
Rebecca E. born Sept. 19, 1827
John
Margaret H. born May 18, 1832
Mary C. born Aug. 24, 1834
Andrew J. born Jan 13, 1837 (this is grandma's grandpa and his middle name is Jackson,
or so she says - maybe they just called him that)

Joseph Jelly born Ireland in July 1800 died March 8, 1864 - 63 yearas and 10 months old. Mary P. Jelley, his wife born Aug 26, 1802 died June 13, 1849 age 46 years 10 months and is buried at Paducah, Kentucky. Her husband is buried in Hampshire Co. (?) at Waverly Tennessee.

Susanah Jelly Cook died at Paducah KY 1851
Margaret Jelly Patterson died in Iowa 1866
John Jelley is buried in Graves Co.(?) KY
Jane Jelley Dick Leroy died Oct 9 1909 at Henderson KY and was buried beside her last husband J. Leroy at Kuttawa Lyons Co.(?) KY

The letter that accompanies this information is as follows:

Ord, Nebraska Aug2, 1913

Dear Pa
This is copied from the old family Bible just as your mother left it until she was through with it and Aunt Becky has kept it ever since. I overlooked your brother John's birth but I think it came in between Becky & Margaret. When I write to Celest (?) I will ask her about it but I hope this will be all right and I am so sorry I mislayed this paper after I came home from Arkansas but I had put it safely away and then forgot where it was but it didn't take me long to find it. Well must close hoping to see you soon. With love, from Marge

Comments from me: This letter would have been to Andrew Jackson Jelley from his daughter Marge. He was married to Naomi or Naoma ( we have seen both) Ann Fillmore.
Andrew Jelley had 7 daughters: Sue, Rebecca, Marge, Mame, Louise, Rhoda, and Tite. Marge, who wrote this letter, had 14 children, 7 girls and 7 boys.
Andrew Jackson Jelley is buried in North Loup, Nebraska - died in 1923

where I have a (?) I am not sure that I am reading what is written correctly. I thought Co meant county, but it may have been meaning something else.

You had mentioned before about Muscatine, Iowa. I have a couple of newspaper clippings that were in the Bible also. One states:

50 years ago- Married - At the residence of the bride's father in West Liberty, IA. on March 12th byt the Rev. J. P. Heck, AJ Jelly, of Atalissa, IA to Miss Naoma Ann Kelley, of West Liberty, IA, formerly of Westmorland county, PA.

Another newspaper article reads:

-Through the Ord Journal, we learn that Mrs. A.J. Jelly, whose maiden name was Neoma Ann Fillmore, was born in Westmoreland, PA, March 19, 1839, and was married to Andrew J. Jelly at Muscatine, Iowa, Feb. 18, 1858. She died at her home near North Loup, March 6, 1916. She was the mother of seven girls, one of whom died several years ago. The living are Mrs. Ed Milligan, of Ord; Mrs. Lou Bebee and Mrs. Geo. Cox of North Loup; Mrs. John Jordan, of St. Paul; Mrs. Susan Givans, of Liberty Center, Iowa; Mrs. Ralph Calkins, of Chula Vista, Cal. The funeral was held Tuesday, and the remains were buried in the North Loup cemetery. The family is well known in Scotia and all will sympathize with the sorrowing husband and daughters.

For your info - Ord, North Loup, Scotia, St. Paul - are small (and I mean small) communities in the very center of Nebraska. I grew up at North Loup.

Anyway - as you will note we have a couple of different names for Mrs. Jelley but grandma said that she was raised by President Fillmore's family so we are thinking that perhaps her last name was truly Kelly but she used Fillmore sometimes.

I know that Andrew Jelley is not your link, but maybe various dates, and locations will coincide with info that you have. I will try to find a birth date, or more information about John when I go to Scotia next time. I need to go soon - grandma is 100 - and very spirited and has a great memory. She might remember some details about John or something or I may be able to find something else - I don't think that there was anything else inthe Bible, but there may have been.

We have really been stumped at finding anything so to find someone who has somewhat the same information is exciting! Am I correct in assuming that you have nothing on this line going any farther back?

Thanks for your messages!

Re: Joseph Jelley/Andrew Jackson Jelley

Posted: 10 Oct 2001 5:10AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 11 Aug 2002 8:40PM GMT
HERE IS THE INFORMATION IS EXACTLY AS I HAVE IT.
1850 CENSUS MCCRACKEN CO KY. (PLEASE NOTE THAT PADUCAH IS THE COUNTY SEAT OF MCCRACKEN WHERE THE MOTHER IS BURIED.)
JOHN JEHLE 19 YEARS FARM LABORER WHITE BORN PA

1860 CENSUS IOWA LEE COUNTY
JELLEY JOHN BORN PA
JELLEY PARTHINA WIFE BORN S.C.
MARGARET BORN KY
JOSEPH BORN IOWA
JOSEPH 60 YEARS OF AGE BORN PA

1870 CENSUS
JOHN JELLY
EDA JELLY WIFE
MARGARET
JOSEPH
SARAH 4 YEARS BORN IN

1880 CENSUS
JOHN C. JELLY FATHER BORN IRELAND MOTHER BORN PA SELF BORN PA
EDDY WIFE
EFFA 7 YEARS

BUTLER TN MARRIAGE RECORDS 1861
JOHN C. JELLY MARRIED EDA A. JOHNSON

THERE IS NO OTHER KNOWN RECORD OF JOSEPH OTHER THAN THIS CENSUS IN IOWA.

SPECULATION IS THIS: JOHN WAS BORN AROUND 1831 HE LISTED HE AGE AS 19 IN 1850.

THE COINCEDENCES ARE VERY GREAT. THE FATHER IS THE EXACT AGE AND EXACT NAME. THE SON JOHN IS THE RIGHT AGE AND NAME. THE PLACE HE IS AT AND THE TIME WOULD GO WITH HIS MOTHER'S DEATH.

i DO HAVE JOHN'S LINE THROUGH HIS DAUGHTER MARGARET. AND I HAVE THE MARRIAGE OF HIS SON JOSEPH AND TWO SONS OF JOSEPH'S DEATH RECORDS. i HOPE YOU WILL BE ABLE TO TALK TO YOUR GRANDMOTHER AND GET SOME MORE INFORMATION. ONE POINT THAT WOULD REALLY CLINCH IT WOULD BE IF JOHN HAD A MIDDLE NAME. HE SIGNED SEVERAL PAPERS OF JOHN C.
HERES HOPING
CAROL ANN

Re: Joseph Jelley/Andrew Jackson Jelley

Posted: 10 Oct 2001 11:26PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 13 Oct 2001 1:35AM GMT
Will see what I can do. My sister is helping me some, although this is not her line - it is my husband's, but she has "been around" in gen. research sites so..... Fun trying to find where the heck these guys came from isn't it! What a great puzzle!!

Thanks!
Chris

Re: Joseph Jelley/Andrew Jackson Jelley

Posted: 12 Oct 2001 4:09AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 11 Aug 2002 8:40PM GMT
Surnames: jelly/jelley
hi
hre's the latest info.
susan married lewis cook 3-10-1843 in gallatin co illinois
rebecca married caleb carr 5-17-1846 gallatin
margaret married john patterson 6-1-1848 gallatin
jane married joseph jackson 11-25-1840 shelby ohio
mary c. married john c finch mccracken co 8-25-1853
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