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George Meldrum Born 1850 Scotland, Died 1883 at sea

George Meldrum Born 1850 Scotland, Died 1883 at sea

Posted: 20 Mar 2003 2:59PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 24 Apr 2003 10:05PM GMT
Surnames: Meldrum
Hi
Can anyone help me.

My gggrandmother Ann Stuart had a child out of wedlock (George Meldrum Stuart Born 1877) with George Meldrum just before he left for America. On his way back home, he died, (1883) - I believe he was coming back from America back to Scotland somewhere (possibly Dundee?). I have his death cert, but it doesn't tell me anything!

Need to know who his parents were, who his brothers and sisters were etc.. can anyone help??
Laura

Re: George Meldrum Born 1850 Scotland, Died 1883 at sea

Posted: 26 Apr 2003 2:40AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 15 Aug 2003 3:32AM GMT
Laura,

Since you have his death certificate I think you actually have more information than you think you do.

I would do the following. Check the death certificate for an address of residence. If he died in Scotland or America, you need to contact a researcher in the area that they died and look for an obituary in the newspaper. Make sure to check 4 days before and up to 4 weeks after the event. If it happened at sea, check the death and burial dates along with the death certificate date.

Next, the death certificate should provide you with a cemetery location. Call or write to the cemetery. If they're overseas, go to your local post office and purchase a International reply coupon and include it with your letter and a SASE. The international reply coupon is good for a free postage stamp from the country that you're sending the letter to. You have a much better chance at getting a reply if you include on of these. If it is a church, you may wish to include a small donation for their "trouble."

You need to try and track down the church that he attended. Contact the church for baptismal records, other possible family members, etc.

If you can locate the address where he lived, you should also contact the local governement courthouse and check for probate records. The probate records can tell you names of relatives which is the next step.

If you also have the address, have a researcher visit the local library in that town. During the period that they were living, check the city directory for their name. Also check the back of the city directory for that address to see who owns the house. You want to check the city directories going back until you cannot find them. You also want to check other people with the same surname to see if they're also at the same address. This may be parents, children, siblings, or even cousins. This combined with the church records, and the cemetery information (check adjacent tombstones) should give you an idea of possible parents.

A final thought would be to use the census records for the area that they lived in. Keep going back until you can find them.

Remember, if you can track down siblings, use the same methods above to track down additional information.

Good luck.

Mindy Bom

Re: George Meldrum Born 1850 Scotland, Died 1883 at sea

Laura Stuart (View posts)
Posted: 26 Apr 2003 10:31AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Meldrum
Hi Mindy,
Thats half the problem, the death certificate doesn't provide enough information. His nationality is "Dundee" and after getting his crew agreements, it says he was born in Dundee ?? can't find him on the mormon site or scotlandspeople!

What should I do? Can you help me?
Laura

Re: George Meldrum Born 1850 Scotland, Died 1883 at sea

Posted: 26 Apr 2003 2:36PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 15 Aug 2003 3:32AM GMT
Laura,

I would start where your female ancestor met him/or that she lived at the time. If you know where her family lived then start there. Have someone check the city directory first for 20 years before and 20 years after the date of your ancestor George Stuart. Dont just look for George Meldrum but anyone with that surname.

Next check the newspapers for the hometown that your female ancestor lived for around the period. You are looking for a full article or just a short blurb in the deaths section. If you find one keep looking, you also may find something at the end for other newspapers in other state or countries to pick up. This should give you a hint to pick it up from there.

If you know the ship on which he died, I would go on this direction next. See who has the records and find a researcher.

You are not going to find everything through the Mormon collection. It will take some creative researching but it is usually out there somewhere.

If it is someplace in America, post that information. I have quite a bit of information about the Meldrums in Michigan.

Re: George Meldrum Born 1850 Scotland, Died 1883 at sea

Posted: 26 Apr 2003 2:40PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 15 Aug 2003 3:32AM GMT
One more thing. City names sometimes change over the years. Keep this in mind. If you think you know where one ancestor may be from, check the history books or surrounding areas. It may also be a county name or someone may have given false information at the time of death. It may also be that no one knew and they gave the city or county where he died or was picked up in on the ship.

How did you come across his death certificate anyway?

You have the actual death certificate or a copy?

Re: George Meldrum Born 1850 Scotland, Died 1883 at sea

Laura Stuart (View posts)
Posted: 26 Apr 2003 3:20PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Meldrum
Hi,
OK, I was told that George went away to America and on his way back to Scotland he died, he also had some money for his son. I found his death cert on scotlandpeople and ordered it, in the hope that I would get his parents or more clues about him. Its definately him because it tallys with the story I was told. Anyway because he died at sea, he was given a different kind of certificate.
Name of Ship: Dundee,
Official no. 86373,
Date of Arrival NOTHING,
Date of Death 12/08/1883,
Age 33,
Rank/Prof etc: Fireman,
Nationality: Dundee (?)
Last Place of Abode, NOTHING,
Cause of death: Swelling of Throat,
Passenger or crew: Crew
that was it! no parents or place of residance in Scotland. I later find in the crew agreements I got from Newfoundland that he died of natural causes, the last ship he was on before Ship Dundee was called Cambria (don't know when he was on it or where he went). The vessel he sailed in takes regular trips from London to Dundee and from Dundee to London, at the time of his death, he was on his way back to London. As for the census, I tried to find Ann Stuart (George's supposed partner) she was working as a domestic servant in Fraserburgh in 1881, her family all lived and died in New Deer, Aberdeenshire for several generations! Their son George Meldrum Stuart was born in 1877 so I need to know where George and Ann were during that time. Little George was being brought up by Ann's parents in New Deer. Also I can't find George Meldrum's birth in 1850, have found a few but I can never be sure, have tried tracking down other Georges so I could cross them out, but there are more out there than I thought!
Laura

Re: George Meldrum Born 1850 Scotland, Died 1883 at sea

Posted: 29 Jun 2004 2:03PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 2 Aug 2004 3:53AM GMT
I am also looking for a George Meldrum who Married about 1887 in Aberdeen Scotland a Jemima Donald she was born in 1867 in Old Marchar Aberdeen Scotland I full information on her up just not to present.

You can reach me at FawnsFamilyTree@hotmail.com
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