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Help needed reading words, once again, sorry ! :-)

Posted: 28 Nov 2012 8:35PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi. Im in need of help reading an entry in a text book for a bank .

The words that i'm havin trouble reading are underlined in the attachment. I can clearly see the words Co.Tyrone and what possibly could be an abbreviation for the word ' Married' and the year 1839, its the words after i cant read
Kind regards Janette (UK)
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Re: Help needed reading words, once again, sorry ! :-)

Posted: 28 Nov 2012 10:08PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 28 Nov 2012 10:13PM GMT
what is the subject ? It's a bank entry for what ? that info might help.. Just need to know in what context it is.. can you show it all ? It looks like Solon.. which means lawgiver.. or statesman.. unless it's context is in a place.. it would be a town in northern ohio
Karen

Re: Help needed reading words, once again, sorry ! :-)

Posted: 29 Nov 2012 1:00AM GMT
Classification: Query
Solon could be someone's name. Here in the US, the locality of Crown Point, Indiana, was founded by a Solon Robinson.

Re: Help needed reading words, once again, sorry ! :-)

Posted: 29 Nov 2012 9:04AM GMT
Classification: Query
Thank you to both of you for your replies. Its an entry in the Emigrants Savings Bank of New York records.

The original line i took it from is third line down ' Robert Johnson'

Janette
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Re: Help needed reading words, once again, sorry ! :-)

Posted: 29 Nov 2012 11:40AM GMT
Classification: Immigration
Hi Janette,

I think the abbreviation which you took to mean "married" could actually be short for "arrived", and the name "Solon" might be the ship. Looking down the rest of the entries, it seems to make sense.

Christine

Re: Help needed reading words, once again, sorry ! :-)

Posted: 29 Nov 2012 12:04PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thank you, if that is the case, then that is a great help!

It's much appreciated

Janette

Re: Help needed reading words, once again, sorry ! :-)

Posted: 29 Nov 2012 11:36PM GMT
Classification: Query
It appears to say - arrd per 'Solon'.

The Solon was a ship active on the trans-Atlantic route in this period. See link for a manifest from a sailing from Londonderry, Ireland to Philadelphia in 1848.


http://www.immigrantships.net/v12/1800v12/solon18480818.html

Re: Help needed reading words, once again, sorry ! :-)

Posted: 30 Nov 2012 9:57AM GMT
Classification: Query
Tim

Thank you so much for the link,it has been very useful.

However i searched for Robert Johnston ( also Johnson, he was known by that spelling )and didn't find any results at all, for 1839 Ship Solon.

I did find a Robert Johnston aged 22 on the Ship Erin 21 May 1838.

Would the details of Robert's arrival and which ship he sailed on be accurate ? Because i have a feeling the Robert on the Ship Erin maybe the same person.

Thanks again everyone for the help, it's much appreciated and i really must try and learn to read these documents ! :-)

Janette

Re: Help needed reading words, once again, sorry ! :-)

Posted: 30 Nov 2012 5:00PM GMT
Classification: Query
Robert Johnson is, as you have probably worked out, a common name and therein lies many a problem.

Did you find all the sailings for the Solon in 1839 ? If not, your subject could be in a missing sailing. I imagine from the type of record involved that the bank could only get the information from the person involved and, where information is not available, they just leave it out. Whilst an error can always creep in, so a year of arrival could be mis-heard, it is more difficult to see how a ship's name could be written so wrongly. But this is really a speculative answer, I don't want to pretend to be able to give you anything solid.

However, the form itself is dated December 1865, which indicates the entries are from 26 years after the actual sailing date. Plenty of room for a memory lapse. But you should remember that the trans-Atlantic sailing took many days, about 2 weeks or more I think, depending on the ship. Would you forget the name of a ship you spent that long on ?

The year of birth is given as 1810 on the bank form, making him 28 in 1838.

So, you have a different birth year, different sailing year, different ship. Everything points to this being a different person to the individual who sailed on the Erin.

Old writing is a nightmare to read, I have to agree.

Re: Help needed reading words, once again, sorry ! :-)

Posted: 30 Nov 2012 5:40PM GMT
Classification: Query
forgive me but what is a ' missing sailing'
? Robert's date of birth was originally thought to be 1810 but other records prove it to be 1814. Also im not sure wether Robert adopted the Johnson spelling of his name Johnston, before or after entering the US.

And yes there so many Robert Johnston's it's hard to filter who's the relatives and who's not.
But im very grateful for all the info you have given :-)

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