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the Carneal name

Joyce Stevens (View posts)
Posted: 13 May 2004 1:57AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Carneale, Bell, Houston, Lee, Estes, Stevens, Hudson, Dunn
Just have a quick question for anyone researching the Carneal name - does anyone know where the name may have originated from - its history, etc. I have Carneals in Caroline and Essex Counties, VA. Thanks so much.

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Sarah Carneal (View posts)
Posted: 18 Jul 2004 11:32PM GMT
Classification: Query
Seeing as how I am a Carneal of Caroline County Virginia I can tell you how it originated. It is a mixture of Native American (Cherokee) and Irish. That is all I know. I have a funny story to tell about how the Carneal's got here that was told by my Grandfather though I don't know how much of it was fact and how much was fiction.

-Sarah Anne Carneal

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Joyce Stevens (View posts)
Posted: 19 Jul 2004 3:33AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Sarah, Thank you very much for the info about the Carneal name. I really appreciate your response. If you are willing to share, I would like very much to know your Grandfather's story about the Carneals.
In my research on my Caroline and Essex County families, I have recently discovered from the census that they came from Virginia as early as 1795. That is as far back as I can estimate. Since the earlier census really don't have the country of origin, I don't expect to really find out what country, if any, any of my family came from. We had heard though that there was Irish in the family, as well as English.
Would certainly appreciate any other info you have. Thank you.

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Sarah Carneal (View posts)
Posted: 19 Jul 2004 3:36PM GMT
Classification: Query
I was never givien any dates for this but this was his story

The Carneal Brothers were Iriish and English. Their mother was half Irish and Half English and their father was Irish. They came to America fleeing persecution (He never told me the crime). They ened up in Southern Virginia. They headed west towards the Appalachian mountains and settled.

The two brothers were told by the other towns people not to go into the valley where the Cherokee were. Well, the Carneal's, never being ones to take orders from anyone, got drunk and went down into the Valley and found themselves two pretty Cherokee women.

They took the women and fled. I was never told where the went but the end is that they married the two Cherokee women and that was the start of the Carneal's in North America.

I have to reiterate that I have no idea how much of this is fantasy and how much is fact. The story has been told for ages and as all oral stories do it may have changed over the years, little details added and things forgotten.

I hope it helps with you're search though! And I would be pleased to know any other information you have about my family. Just in case you need it, here's a little bit about the Carneal Family as it is Today.

Edgar Butler Carneal (Grandpa) M. Betty Jean Sullivan (deceased)
Their Children: Edgar Butler Jr., Julian Ray, Wanda Cheryl, Teresa Lynne

Edgar Butler Jr. (Married then Divorced to Unknown) M. Vikki (Unknown Last Name/Divorced)
Their Children: Angel Louise, Edgar Allen (Deceased), Daniel Butler

Angel Louise M. Kenneth Taylor
Their Children: Kelly Marie, Kenneth Allen

Julian Ray Carneal M. Barabara Sue Christ
Their Children: Sarah Anne (Me), Adrian Ray

Teresa Lynne M. Jack Fields
Their Children: James Butler

Wanda Cheryl M. Welford Lee Beasley (Divorced/Deceased) Remarried to John Gibson
Their Children: Welfrod Lee Beasley Jr., Brandy Renee, Brian Craig

Welford Lee Jr. M. April Mae Chapman (Divorced)
Their Children: Courtney Jean

Brian Craig -and- Cindi Dawn Thomas (Unwed)
Their Children: Keirstyn Brooke, Kaylee Bree, Kennedi Beth

That's us today. We have a large family that we are still in contact with, over 76 of us at Family Reunions. All the afore mentioned live in Caroline County or surrounding counties still with the exception of myself. I am residing in Rosslyn.

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Joyce Stevens (View posts)
Posted: 22 Jul 2004 3:18AM GMT
Classification: Query
Thank you Sarah! I love that story! I only wish I could adopt it as part of my own family story. How lucky you are. I looked over all the names you listed, but none of them are familiar to me as far as my Carneal research goes. I have been ordering reels of film by way of the interlibrary loan from the Library of Virginia and having them sent to our State library here in Baltimore. I have just started a reel by reel review of anything related to the Caroline County family. I have a long way to go, but at least I am able to do the reviews here in Baltimore and continue with my Virginia research. Thank you very much for sharing your story. Have you been doing genealogy very long?
Joyce

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Posted: 12 Jan 2005 2:51PM GMT
Classification: Query
I do believe we are from the same Carneal family. My email is: pamelaealways@earthlink.net.

Pam

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Posted: 26 Aug 2005 8:36PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Carneal,James,Haynes,Mills
My GGgrandmother was Sarah Jones Carneal of Caroline County,Va.She married Robert W.Haynes on 26 Apr. 1866
in Spotsylvania. I'm having a hard time finding anything more on either of them.

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Joyce Stevens (View posts)
Posted: 2 Sep 2005 3:23AM GMT
Classification: Query
Sorry to say that your Carneals are not in my Carneal family. I have been researching the Carneal family in Caroline County for the last two years. Caroline County was a "burned county" and many records are not available. You may want to go on line at the Library of Virginia as they lots of info there. Thanks for your response. I wish you luck in your research.

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Posted: 9 Nov 2009 7:16PM GMT
Classification: Query
Also researching Sarah Jones, b. betw. 1837-1840, d. 1872; in quest for parents of Robert Lee Carneal (b. betw. 1863 and 1870, d. 1934). I believe I have located the Jones, Carneal (Carnal) and Haynes families from 1840. Please reply if still interested or if you have new information.

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Posted: 10 Nov 2009 4:09AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Nancy,
Thanks for your message. I hope you can get in touch with Pamela (message of 12 Jan 2005)and Mfennel147 (message of 2 Sep 2005) as they seem to have your family members. It seems you have the Sarah Jones Carneal family members in common. Sure wish it were my family members. Good luck.
Joyce
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