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MARTIN from St. John's died in Halifax

MARTIN from St. John's died in Halifax

Posted: 25 Apr 2013 2:17AM GMT
Classification: Query
I am looking for a John MARTIN, of the Martin family from the White Hills area near Quidi Vidi in St. John's. I believe that several siblings of this family moved to the Halifax area.

The first to move would have been Hannah Martin who married George Phillips, a bookbinder from Devon. They moved to Halifax about 1836 and were probably the reason some other MARTIN siblings came. I have found the headstones for both George and Hannah Phillips in Halifax.

The death of a William Martin was also reported in the Times & General Commercial Gazette in St. John's on 2 Dec 1874. No age was given but a note was also for "Halifax Papers Please Copy". So I assume I need to look for something in the Halifax newspapers in December 1874.

Finally, is anyone out there with access to a Halifax newspaper circa October 16 1879. I believe that this John Martin was a brother to Hannah Martin PHILLIPS

Harbor Grace Standard & Conception Bay Advertiser
8 Nov 1879

At Halifax, on the 16th ult., John MARTIN, a native of St. John's, N.F., in the 83rd year of his age, leaving a family to mourn the loss of a kind and loving father.

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/nfld-roots/200...

I have checked the free online resource novascotiagenealogy.com without success for this family and specifically John's death in October 1879.

Any suggestions, feedback, directions gladly received to resolve this 9 year quest.

Geoff Martin
Calgary

MARTIN from St. John's died in Halifax

Posted: 27 Apr 2013 12:56AM GMT
Classification: Query
Right, so I have looked for John in the 1871 Census HFX and found a John Martin age 73 from NFL. With him are Emma Martin, age 24 (born in NS)and found she married a Fenton in 1874, and a Frederick LC martin age 16 (born in NS).
Emma was a dau of John and Margaret Martin. Could these be your folks??

Re: MARTIN from St. John's died in Halifax

Posted: 27 Apr 2013 5:07AM GMT
Classification: Query
Thanks for your quick reply. John is a real puzzle and blank in my database at this stage. I'll check the various census records and see what I can cobble together from this. The dates from the newspaper and the census fit closely.

Re: MARTIN from St. John's died in Halifax

Posted: 6 May 2013 1:53PM GMT
Classification: Query
Just noticed on NS site, Mrs William Martin death Dec 24 1876 says widow, age 73 parents John and Hannah...died cancer Sheet Harbor, witness Robert Martin...

Re: MARTIN from St. John's died in Halifax

Posted: 6 May 2013 2:03PM GMT
Classification: Query
So is this your John in NFLD? You think he moved to Halifax or just his sister Hannah?

Aug 20 1827 St. Johns John MARTIN, bach, gunner, RA, St Johns Mary FENNESY, n/g, St Johns Thomas Logan, Eben Fitzgerald

By death age, he'd be born 1796ish?

Re: MARTIN from St. John's died in Halifax

Posted: 6 May 2013 7:01PM GMT
Classification: Query
This Mrs. William Martin may have been nee Isabella Watt and her husband William died in Sheet Harbour 1844. I have these people in my database from another Newfie migrant.

Re: MARTIN from St. John's died in Halifax

Posted: 6 May 2013 7:32PM GMT
Classification: Query
My prey are most decidedly Protestant. Could be Congregational or Anglican. I know that Hannah and family moved over to Halifax. I can find nothing on her older brother John born circa 1796 in the St. John's records. Of the 11 children in this family John is the only one I can't track. The HG Standard death notice from November 1879 is the glimmer of hope for the man I seek and I am groping that there is the connection with Hannah.

I suspect that John who married Fennesy, being noted as Royal Artillery, was more than likely British and NOT born in Newfoundland.

John and his two brothers Thomas and Henry were listed in the will of their father Thomas, farmer, of the White Hills area near St. John's. Thomas senior died age 85. The will was dated 1844 and was in probate 1845. Thomas and Henry both stayed and died in St. John's. Thomas junior died age 85 and Henry age 59. John of the newspaper announcement dying age 83 fits.

Re: MARTIN from St. John's died in Halifax

Posted: 7 May 2013 1:05AM GMT
Classification: Query
•ID: I1240
•Name: John Martin
•Sex: M
•Birth: Abt 1796
•Death: 8 Nov 1879

If this is your family, I think there is some English/Brit there, thought I would pass this along, I did not go check the will on NFLD site to see if wife last name was mentioned or not. I will do some digging in my newspaper clippings for John.


Father: Thomas Martin b: Abt 1764 in Chudleigh, Exeter, Devon, England, United Kingdom
Mother: Mary Brace b: Abt 1772 in , St Johns, Newfoundland, Canada

Re: MARTIN from St. John's died in Halifax

Posted: 7 May 2013 1:37AM GMT
Classification: Query
Yes, this was the father who became a successful farmer in the White Hills. Thomas may have come as a servant to a military man who later found religion and started the Dissenting Church of Christ in St. John's. He was a prolific producer of kids as he and Mary had eleven.

The three son's of Thomas were born in the White Hills/Quidi Vidi/St. John's area. Typically the people in the Royal Newfoundland Companies (RNC) and RA (Royal Artillery) were often soldiers from Great Britain.

Thomas Junior died in the White Hills 1883. He married Ann(e) Murren. I have found only one baptism (son Robert) recorded with the occupation of the father Thomas. The father was listed as a fisherman.
The second brother Henry who married Grace Gallop was likewise listed as a fisherman. He died 1861.

So whither "whent" John and why so to speak? I can find absolutely n'ar clue as to his whereabouts or a marriage or any kids or anything. The newspaper clipping for the death notice mentioned a family to mourn the loss.

One of the daughters of Thomas Martin (Mary Jane) married a Hennebury and one of their issue is the link to my family ties.

My direct Martin roots are from Harbour Grace but originally from Jersey and Guernsey. However, I have basically given myself the challenge to sort out the Protestant Martin lines. Those MARTINS in and from St. John's are numerous and challenging but after a nine year struggle and 20,000 in my main database and 24 separate Martin folders waiting to be tied in with families all over the island I am making headway.

John is a loose end that I want to resolve.

There may be nothing more in the original Halifax announcement but I would dearly love to see what was printed.

Thank you for your part in this epic challenge.
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