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FRAHER census mystery

FRAHER census mystery

Posted: 29 Dec 2004 3:54AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 31 Jan 2010 11:30PM GMT
Surnames: FRAHER
Where is my Fraher family?

I am looking for a Mary Agnes Fraher in the 1880 US census. I have found her after her marriage in other US census records. For the 1880 census, I have looked on www.ancestry.com, with no luck finding Mary or her family.

Mary should be about 4 years old, she should have a sister Sarah who should be about 2 and another sister Elizabeth who would be a month or two, if she shows up at all I don't know about any other siblings, but there could be more. Mary's father is beleived to be a John Fraher, from Ireland. Her mother is believed to be Mary, from Ireland.

Mary Agnes Fraher's obituary indicates she was a native of Port Henry, NY. Although, later census records indicate she was born in Connecticut, which is where she spent almost all of her life.

If anyone can help me solve this mystery as to where my Fraher family is in the 1880 US Census, I would be very greatful if you were to post a reply to this message.

Thanks, Jim

Re: census mystery

Posted: 29 Dec 2004 9:40PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Jim,

I had a look at the 1880 census, out of curiosity.

There's one record I don't know if you saw. It's for Derby, New Haven, Connecticut, pg. 156C, ED 67. It contains a Fraher family. The mother, 43-year-old Mary, was born in Ireland and is apparently a widow. She has a daughter Mary who's 13. The daughter's father was born in Ireland, but her middle initial is given as "E". And she has 4 younger siblings but no sisters named Sarah or Elizabeth.

So this is probably not the Fraher family you're looking for, but there are enough similarities that I wanted to make sure you knew about it.

Mike Carroll
Oro Valley, AZ, USA

Re: census mystery

Posted: 29 Dec 2004 11:28PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: FRAHER
Thank you for your interest.

I had noticed this family and wondered if it could be her.

Based upon what I know, it doesn't seem to match my Mary Fraher, but there are enough similiarities that if I find any more details about her family I will revisit the Fraher's from Derby, CT.

Thanks again, Jim

Re: census mystery

Posted: 30 Dec 2004 11:52PM GMT
Classification: Query
There' s also another distant possible...but again no sign of sisters Sarah or Elizabeth.

There is a John and Mary Frawley, both born in Ireland, and they have a 3 year old Mary (on next census sheet). They lived in Derby, New Haven, CT in 1880.

Re: census mystery

Alan Downes (View posts)
Posted: 2 Jan 2005 9:27PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Fraher, Fryher, Friar, Friher
Because Jim Sanders posted his mystery on several boards, I am summarizing here the report I gave on the Connecticut Genealogy Forum. The two main barriers to finding Mary Fraher in 1880 were the given birthdate and the pronunciation of the surname--classic census problems. I was able to recalculate the birthdate from obituary data Jim added on the other site, coming up with about 1865. I was able to get a short list of Marys in 1880 New Britain which included a 17-year-old Mary "Fryher." That was one vowel I had not tried with the asterisk! Subsequently, I found the family in 1870 as "Friher;" and Mary's siblings in 1900 included "Fryher" and "Friar," along with a transcriber's contribution of "Fryler." It was another reminder that we should not assume that the family was missed by the census enumerators. And it was another reminder of how hard we have to listen for the ancestral pronunciation of the family name.

Re: FRAHER census mystery

Posted: 14 Apr 2011 12:01PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Fraher
Hi, this may not be anything to do with your enquiry but I am also looking for Mary Agnes Fraher married to John Fraher in 1877, records show that she was born in New York Oct. 1856, with parents born in Ireland. I am finding it very difficult to track her any further as I believe Fraher was a married name and not a maiden name, if any of these details seem to match your searches I'd be interested in getting more details.
Regards,

Bill.

Re: FRAHER census mystery

Posted: 14 Apr 2011 10:53PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: FRAHER
Hi Bill,

Sorry, this is not the same Fraher family as mine. My Mary Agnes Fraher was born in 1863 in Port Henry, New York. She ended up New Britain, CT and married Joseph Sanders.

Regards, Jim
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