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Crom, Dave & Zicot families in Farciennes, Hainaut provence

Crom, Dave & Zicot families in Farciennes, Hainaut provence

Jeanne Zangerle (View posts)
Posted: 21 Mar 2005 7:50PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: CROM, DAVE, ZICOT
My great grandmother, Marie Francoise CROM married twice: 1st to Adrien ZICOT & then to Isadore DAVE. All 3 were born in Farciennes in the 1st half of 1800. She was known in the USA as Frances. Frances & Isadore were Catholics and spoke French.
I am looking for info on Marie & Adrien's 5 children, Adrien's death (probably in Farciennes, year unknown), Marie's marriage to Isadore, and Marie & Isadore's passage to the US about 1855-1856.
Any help or resources would be GREATLY appreciated!!

Re: Crom, Dave & Zicot families in Farciennes, Hainaut provence

Posted: 17 Dec 2005 1:09PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Jeanne we may have corresponded before.....

I have Zicot ancestors too. And since it's such a rare name in Belgium and from that same locale they're definitely related. My widowed g-g-g-grandmother Marie Zicot (b ~1798)came to Green Bay Wisc area in 1855 with her daughter Cecile Josse and son-in-law Francois Martin from near Perwez (Petit Rosierre) I have more Zicot info, but nothing on descendents you listed

Brian

Re: Crom, Dave & Zicot families

Posted: 6 Mar 2006 8:17PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello from Canada ! I am very excited to contact you regarding the Zicot family connection to the Dave family. I am actually doing research for a cousin who is a descendant of Marie Francoise Zicot and Isadore Dave. I wonder if you would please email me some information concerning Marie Francoise/Isadore Dave that you may have. I can say with a 99.9% certainty that the family in Green bay, Brown, Wisconsin in 1880 headed by Isadore Dave and his wife Francis Dave is the connection you are also seeking. They had several children and their one son Joseph Dave then married Eugenia(aka Eugenie aka Jennie) Wilmer. They had several kids as well, and of the Clifford Joseph Dave Sr. came Clifford Joseph Dave Jr. who later changed their names to Clifford Joseph Wilmer which was the mother's maiden name. Anyway, my connection to this family is through a marriage between Clifford Dave Sr. and Blanche Pratt. In 1920 they were going by the name Dave. By 1930 they were Wilmer and so were their kids.

My cousin would really appreciate any information you could provide and I will be passing it on via "snail mail" because he does not have a computer at this time.

My name is Loopy Pratt of Cranbrook, B.C. Canada
If you would like to exchange phone numbers and addresses, please let me know.

I look forward to hearing from you soon.
Thanks !!

Re: Crom, Dave & Zicot families

Jeanne Zangerle (View posts)
Posted: 6 Mar 2006 10:17PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thank you for your reply. We, indeed, are working on the same family.
Please contact me at jmzangerle@yahoo.com and we can correspond privately to exchange addresses & phone #'s.

I am descended from Isidore & Frances Dave's youngest child - Maria Juliana. She was my grandmother.
I live in the greater Milwaukee (Wisconsin) area & have done extensive research in Green Bay. I would be happy to compare info on the family. Perhaps we can complete the tree between us!!

I am interested in the ancestors of Isidore & Marie Francoise in Belgium. Have you done any research on them?
Have you been able to find Isidore & Frances's passage(s) to the USA? Have you found their marriage record?
Were you aware that Francis was married before she married Isidore? Or that she had children from that 1st marriage - only SOME of whom came here?

This is SOOOO exciting!!! Hope to hear from you soon.
Jeanne

Re: Crom, Dave & Zicot families in Farciennes, Hainaut provence

Michel DENIS (View posts)
Posted: 5 Jun 2006 6:28PM GMT
Classification: Query
My former mother in law is one "ZICOT".
I am busy with the genealogy of my children for more than 30 years.I know very well the story of the families " ZICOT" and CROM.Do you need my help?
Adrien Joseph ZICOT( born in Farciennes 24/5/1828 and died in USA 15/10/1904 ) son of Gabriel Joseph and Marie Thérèse SANDRON.
Marie Sylvie CROM (born in Farciennes 13/9/1834 and died in USA ?), daughter of Jean Joseph and Marie Catherine JOUAY.

Re: Crom, Dave & Zicot families in Farciennes, Hainaut provence

Michel DENIS (View posts)
Posted: 5 Jun 2006 6:57PM GMT
Classification: Query
One mistake in my former message : Marie Sylvie is the Christian name of the sister of your ancestor Marie Françoise.
Your ancestor is born in 8/10/1836 also in Farciennes.
They married two brothers : Léopold and Andrien ZICOT.
Marie Sylvie CROM and Léopold Joseph ZICOT are the ancestors of my children.
Michel DENIS
Chaussée de Nivelles 198
Gosselies (Belgium)
denis.menoncello@skynet.be

Re: Crom, Dave & Zicot families in Farciennes, Hainaut provence

Jeanne (View posts)
Posted: 6 Jun 2006 7:08PM GMT
Classification: Query
Michel, Thank you for the correction. I looked at the FHC microfilms of Farciennes civil records & found the marriage of Marie Francoise & Adrien, but none of the births for any of their children. They should have been on the film because the film spanned the time frame of the births. Do you know of any way I can find the birth records for Adrien's children with M. Francoise? Do you know if they lived near Leopold & M. Sylvie? Could they have moved to Marcinelle (where Adrien's mother died) or to Chatelineau where another brother lived (& died in 1855)? Whatever help you can give would be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks again,
Jeanne

Re: Crom, Dave & Zicot families in Farciennes, Hainaut provence

Zicot Emmanuelle (View posts)
Posted: 2 Oct 2006 1:37PM GMT
Classification: Query
hello,
perhaps I can help you...
My grand father and his parents were living in farciennes. My grand father was named René Zicot (probably born in 1916...) as my great grand father. Perhaps Adrien was my great great grand father?
my grand father had two sisters ( Marthe and Rachel) and a brother(died young and had two children: Daniel and Anne). My father is Michel Zicot born in 1943 (3 girls: Anne françoise, Emmanuelle and Catherine).
If you need precisions or corrections I can ask my grand mother who has such an exceptionnal memory of dates.
Bye
Emmanuelle Zicot/Sala


Re: Crom, Dave & Zicot families in Farciennes, Hainaut provence

Posted: 13 Oct 2012 7:29AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Zicot, Josse, Duffeler, Martin
Hello,

wonder what you or older family members know of the origin of the Zicot family name in Belgium? It is a rare name suppsoedly from my information with its origin in Croatia in early 1600s.

Any insights?

Re: Crom, Dave & Zicot families

Posted: 13 Oct 2012 7:36AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Zicot, Duffeler, Josse, Martin
My ancestor Marie Zicot also lived in Wisc in 1850s. But she came to Wisc as a grandmother (widow of Josse) with her daughter (Cecil Josse) and son-in-law Francois Martin. Be interesting to see if there might be a close connection between our two Marie Zicot relatives. It is a rare name. My Marie Zicot was from Perwez, Brabant or nearby(Petit Rosiere)
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