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Scottish Prisoners

Posted: 3 May 2003 6:05PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 5 Dec 2008 8:00AM GMT
Surnames: Ferguson
Looking for origin of John, James, and Damiel Ferguson (Fargason, Farquharson) c. 1650 who came to USA as prisoners following Cromwell. Know of any sites re prisoners??

Re: Scottish Prisoners

Belinda Ferguson/Bailey (View posts)
Posted: 4 May 2003 5:02PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Ferguson
There is a list of prisoners and their sentencing. I think I have seen these names in search for my ancestor Robert Ferguson who came to Virginia sometime around 1665. I will try to find them and get back with you. Also on the ship's lists, some will tell you they were prisonors. Do you know where the ancester you seek settled?

Re: Scottish Prisoners

Belinda S. Bailey (View posts)
Posted: 4 May 2003 5:27PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Ferguson
FERGUSON DANIEL, Royalist soldier captured at the Battle of Dunbar in 1650. Transported to New England on the Unity, settled in Kittery, Maine c 1656. page 48 (NWI)

http://terwin.home.texas.net/nasettlers.html

Source: 269 BANKS, Charles Edward. "Scotch Prisoners Deported to New England by Cromwell, 1651-1652." Massachusetts Historical Society Proceeding. 61 (Oct 1928), pp 4-29. (Lancour 53A)
Book not available at Texas State Library for details

FERGUSON, Daniel, NE, 1651, page 16 Source: 269
http://terwin.home.texas.net/immi.html

Re: Scottish Prisoners

Posted: 4 May 2003 5:44PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 24 May 2003 7:24PM GMT
Thank you for responding -- I have scoured the available ship lists and Dobsen books -- but the other one you cited, will try to find. We are trying to get a link to Daniel, as well as a James Farquhar who was a prisoner in 1651. I recently wrote Worcester to see if someone there had made any attempt, and am hoping someone in the UK had researched this more than in the States. My guy is John Ferguson, have no idea where he was from, but have records of him in CT. My gut says he came to New England, but he could have come via Virginia or the West Indies. If you can get that list you used for Robert, please let me know of any Ferguson variants that may appear. Thanks much.

Re: Scottish Prisoners

Belinda Ferguson/Bailey (View posts)
Posted: 5 May 2003 4:44AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Ferguson

Re: Scottish Prisoners

Belinda Ferguson/Bailey (View posts)
Posted: 5 May 2003 5:04AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Ferguson
this person posted this message two years ago, perhaps if you email them they have more information? It appears they are talking about the same family.

drfmmf@aol.com; Marcia

Some Fergusons were aboard the ship Unity that left London 11/11/1650 after they were exiled from Scotland by Cromwell following the Battle of Dunbar. The Unity made stops in Barbados, Virginia, and Massachusetts. We are descended from a Daniel Ferguson that landed in Massachusetts early 1651. We are trying to locate point of origin in Scotland. Do you know how your Robert arrived in Virginia?

Re: Scottish Prisoners

Belinda Ferguson/Bailey (View posts)
Posted: 5 May 2003 5:46AM GMT
Classification: Query

Re: Scottish Prisoners

Posted: 5 May 2003 11:02PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 24 May 2003 7:24PM GMT
Thanks for the contact and websites. If they are from Daniel, we may be kin! Thanks for taking the interest in helping me, most appreciated.

Re: Scottish Prisoners

Belinda Ferguson/Bailey (View posts)
Posted: 6 May 2003 4:35AM GMT
Classification: Query
is this the book you have?
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~connolly/cromwell.h...
this is very interesting to know.

First name: Last Name:

English Civil War and Scottish Prisoners
Excerpt from passengers to America
[A Consolidation of Ship Passenger Lists from The New England Historical and Genealogical Register ]
Edited by Michael Tepper
[Ref 929.1 P 287]
Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
Baltimore 1988
pp.148-9
"Scotch [sic] Prisoners to Massachusetts, 1652, by Order of the English Government"

The following from Governor Hutchinson's Collection of Original Papers ...

Extract from a Letter written by Rev John Cotton to Lord General Cromwell, dated at "Boston in NE 28. of 5th 1651," respecting some prioners of the same class of persons included in the above list sent over before these arrived. They all probably were taken at the battle of Dunbar [Dunbarre], Sept. 3 1650, wehn Cromwell was victorious and four thousand were slain and ten thousand made prisoners.

The Scots whom God delivered to your hands at Dunbarre, and whereof sundry were sent hither, we have been desirous (as we could) to make their yoke easy. Such as were sick of the scurvy or other diseases have not wanted physick and chyrurgery. They have not been so for slaves to perpetual servitude, but for 6 or 7 or 8 yeares, as we do our owne; and he tat bougt the most of them (I heare) buildeth houses for them, for every four an house , layeth some acres of ground thereto, which he giveth them as their owne, requiring 3 dayes in the weeke to work for him (by turnes) and 4 dayes for themselves, and promiset as soone as they can repay him the money , he layed out for them, he will set them at liberty."



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Accompanying list of passengers aboard the John and Sarah of London John Greene mr bound for New Englan[d].

London this 11 : of Nouember 1651:
Mr. THO:KEMBLE
Wee whose names are vnder written , freighters of the shipp John & Sara whereof is Comander John Greene Doe COnsigne the said shipp & servants to be disposed of by yow for our best advantage & account the whole proceed of the Servants and vojage retourne in th a jounct stocke without any Division in such goods as you conceive will turne best to accott [sic] in the Barbadoes & consigne them to MrCharles Rich .... [consignment noted May 3 1652] ..among them John Scott, John Macklude, Henry Mack

Among passengers in Aprilis 1635; a transport from Faulcon de London to the Barbadoes The Irish Minister .. etc is one Irish "John Scott".



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Also papers of the time list [later] an English John Scott with a Samuel Scott, merchant bound for Barbadoes (West Indies). The Scotts in Maine with Durgins settled in Limerick & Cornish & the Scotts especially re-plenished Samuel John & John & John (also as sea captains) .. and as late as 1882 re-married: Charles H Scott & Mary Ann Durgin ..one pair of Scott M Connolly's paternal great-grandparents.
Scotch-Irish & Stuart themes interplayed in Boston March 17, 1776 - celebrated as Evacuation Day - when Gen'l Washington waited the day of the 16th to the next to unveil the cannon against the British Fleet at Dorchester Heights and force the British Naval withdrawal from Boston.
Though Washington also served faithfully, a constitution and a balanced legislative power. [We're checking .. but we're sure he slept at Limerick .. he got at least as far north as Bucksport.]
The William Durgin of Ipswich and Portsmouth New Hampshire sailed to and from Barbadoes and the WI, c. 1630-60 .. and Massachusetts Bay Colony, then was the most Cromwellian Colony in North America. [Ipswich famous today for 'fried clams' is north of Boston between Portsmouth, NH and near Salem.]


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Scott M Connolly's ancestry joins the John Scott and other families bound in this and who migrated to or settled eventually in Maine, as well as Massachusetts and New Hampshire. Some were transported to Barbados.
Parliamentary supremacy was established in England (Great Britain) by a bloody civil war ..King Charles I was captured, tried and executed, publically beheaded, by order of Parliament assented by the Lord Protector General Cromwell ... after Cromwell's death, the Stuart kings were restored (Restoration) followed by the Glorious Revolution - the seating of William & Mary - that rebellion against them in Stuart favor chiefy through 1681, also held out through 1689 with a French allied fleet and ground forces for eight years until a withdrawal was negotiated and peace established - that port was Limerick, Ireland.

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An ancestral John Scott of Maine connection joins that history to deportations of prisoners like this one .. a John Scott is amng them also in other 'transport' lists with new allegiances sworn in the 1651 era. A famous 'John Scott' was also son of James Scott -Duke of Monmouth, who also opposed Parliament, lost a battle at Bothwell Bridge, and was beaded. He was son by a mistress, of King Charles II. Two other John's Scott also settled western Massachusetts -Springfield Plantations in the period 1630-90.
After William & Mary, Britain tasted the Stuarts once again with Queen Anne -who had no children - and was thus acceptable. On her death, Parliament assertive [Act of Succession -requiring a Protestant monarch acceptable to Parliament] again denied the Stuart succession, and selected the Elector of Hanover, who became King George I -- who speaking little English, became a perfectly balanced monarch for an English Parliament.
many more Scottish lost fortunes and lands in rebellio again for James V and 'Bonnie Prince Charlie' 'the Spirit of 1745" [just like the Drambuie bottle].

The Georgian period also brough an appreciation of early expanded German imigration -- but those are myMay ancestors in the first third of the 19th century; afer the early Germans from Hesse (including some US Revolutionary War prisoners).
By 1775, a new America would rebel and make its independence. Limerick, Maine was settled from a Sokoki Indian training camp on the Saco River in 1775 [safe name now] and a Cap't'n John Scott would be mentioned in packet dispatches to Commissioner John Adams.

New England Genealogical Historical Society .. with no frown on good amateur genealogy the NEGHS also publishes many fine standard reference works and invites membership ..and certifies genealogists.




Re: Scottish Prisoners

Belinda Ferguson/Bailey (View posts)
Posted: 6 May 2003 5:50AM GMT
Classification: Query
Ferguson varients:
Fergusson,Fergason, Forguson, all in William Ferguson's will
from the clan Fergusson society;
Clan Fhearghuis
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The Clan Fergusson
Regular membership is open to those persons, male or female, who bear or have borne the names Fergusson (all spellings) or those listed at the right or who can establish a reasonable presumption of direct descent from an ancestor of eligible name.http://www.cfsna.org/cfsn1d.htm
Fergie, Fergus, Fergushill, Fergussill, Ferrie, Ferries, Ferris, Forgan, Forgie, Grevsack, Hardie, Hardy, Keddle, Keddie, Ketchen, Kidd, Kiddie, Kydd, MacAdie, MacCade, MacErris, MacFergus, MacFhearghuis, MacFirries, MacHerries, MacInlay, MacIrish, MacKeddie, MacKerras, MacKersey, MacKestan, MacMangus, MacTavert (all spellings)

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