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Shands of Aberdeenshire, Scotland

Shands of Aberdeenshire, Scotland

Posted: 21 May 2005 2:49AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 13 Jun 2012 12:40PM GMT
Surnames: Corssar, Duncan, Esson, Hunter, Jolly, Norrie, Stewart, Shand
Interested in sharing information with others who are researching the SHAND families of Aberdeenshire (Kennethmont parish, Old Mach parish, Belhelvie parish). Marriages are to ESSON, STEWART, CORSSAR (Banffshire), DUNCAN, NORRIE, HUNTER and JOLLY.

Re: Shands of Aberdeenshire

Neil Shand (View posts)
Posted: 7 Oct 2005 10:20AM GMT
Hi

Have several Shands in my family tree who were born and lived in Old Machar Parish.

Alexander Shand b c1790 Old Machar
Married Elizabeth Simpson 02.06.1821

Had the following:

Elizabeth Shand b 1822
Isobel Shand b 1823
Alexander Shand b 1824
John Shand b 1840

The family then moved into the city to St Nicholas and I have a LOT of info and names on them.

Possible that Alexander born c1790 had brothers- William, Arthur and James, but haven't managed to prove a link yet.

Let me know if you want more info/dates and if there's a connection?

Re: Shands of Aberdeenshire

Posted: 23 Nov 2005 11:21AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 13 Jun 2012 12:41PM GMT
Surnames: McLean, Shand, Elder
My Shands came from Yonder Bognie, Forgue in Aberdeenshire. Associated names are McLean, Elder, Maitland & Cruickshank. Always happy to find extra info and happy to share.
Rhona

Elizabeth SHAND b abt 1821 Aberdeenshire

Posted: 22 Mar 2006 8:55PM GMT
Classification: Birth
Edited: 5 Jul 2012 11:55AM GMT
Surnames: Shand, England
I am also looking into the Shands of Aberdeen. My line started with an Elizabeth Shand circa 1821 child of Robert Shand and Jane England. Have further info if you would like to contact me. Julie

Re: Shands of Aberdeenshire

Heather Schieren (View posts)
Posted: 11 May 2006 1:16AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 13 Jun 2012 12:41PM GMT
Surnames: SHAND, MINTO
My SHAND's also came from here, and have the same related Surnames.
My Paternal 4x G. Grandmother Janet SHAND, 1728-1797, married William MINTO. Janet's father was John SHAND.
Would love to correspond with you.

Re: Shands of Aberdeenshire

Rhona (View posts)
Posted: 11 May 2006 9:20AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 13 Jun 2012 12:41PM GMT
Had a quick lookn but couldn't find the Minto name - tho something tells me it's familiar. My email is rmclean@ihug.co.nz if you'd like to chat directly - Cheers Rhona

Re: Elizabeth Shand

Posted: 21 Jul 2007 5:23AM GMT
Classification: Query
Dear Julie,

Elizabeth Shand (d 6/6/1877 @ 21 Berry Lane Aberdeen ABD) was my gg gran. Based on censuses, I would put her birth earlier: abt 1816 @ New Aberdour. Here are some FreeCEN transcriptions:

Piece: SCT1841/225 Place: New Deer -Aberdeenshire Enumeration District: 3
Civil Parish: New Deer Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: New Deer
Folio: 3 Page: 9
Address: Land Of Broomhill
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Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
FOWLIE John M 69 Farmer Aberdeenshire
FOWLIE Jean F 80 Aberdeenshire
SMITH George M 30 Ag Lab Aberdeenshire
MELDRUM John M 13 Ag Lab Aberdeenshire
SHAND Elisobeth F 25 Female Servant Aberdeenshire
ROBISON William M 2 Aberdeenshire


Piece: SCT1851/248 Place: Tyrie -Aberdeenshire Enumeration District: 6
Civil Parish: Tyrie Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: New Pitsligo
Folio: 183 Page: 7 Schedule: 30
Address: 12 School Street
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Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
SHAND Elizabeth Head U F 34 Laundress & Wheat Bread Dealer Aberdeenshire - Aberdour
ROBERTSON William Son - M 11 Scholar Aberdeenshire - Tyrie
SUTHERLAND Andrew Son - M 2 Aberdeenshire - Tyrie

My g gran, Elizabeth Cowie (d/o Thomas Cowie + Elizabeth Shand) was probably only 17 in 1851, but this still makes an 1821 dob for Elizabeth Shand rather improbable.

Piece: SCT1851/169 Place: Aberdour -Aberdeenshire Enumeration District: 3
Civil Parish: Aberdour Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 182 Page: 14 Schedule: 31
Address: Glaslaw
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Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
WHYTE Lewis Head M M 34 Farmer Of 30 Acres Aberdeenshire - Aberdour Employing 1 labourer
WHYTE Jane Wife M F 38 Farmers Wife Aberdeenshire - New Deer
WHYTE William Son U M 9 Scholar Aberdeenshire - Aberdour
WHYTE Alexander Son U M 7 Scholar Aberdeenshire - Aberdour
WHYTE Lewis Son U M 2 Farmers Son Aberdeenshire - Aberdour
WHYTE Jannet Daur U F 6m Farmers Daughter Aberdeenshire - Aberdour
COWIE Elizabeth Servnt U F 18 Houseservant Aberdeenshire - Aberdour

Please email me at greig@sfu.ca

Regards - Malcolm

Re: Elizabeth Shand

Posted: 21 Jul 2007 11:54AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Shand
Although not related to this strand (to the best of my knowledge), I wonder if the Elizabeth SHAND chr. 9 Feb 1815 Rathen parish to Eliz. SHAND might not just be the one found at the Land of Broomhill in 1841. New Aberdour is not very far from Rathen.

Re: Elizabeth Shand - England - Esson

Posted: 22 Jul 2007 12:36AM GMT
Classification: Query
I'm convinced that Eliz Shand (d/o Eliz Shand), b 9/2/1815 @ Rathen, is not my Elizabeth, and I've found my Eliz on the censuses.

From her marriage rego: on 5/6/1867 @ 21 Berry Lane Aberdeen (St Nicholas), And. Sutherland a=44 s/o James + Barbara Sutherland MS Watson marr Elizabeth Shand a=46 d/o Robert + Jane Shand MS England.
The 1871 census of 21 Berry Lane shows Andrew Sutherland 44 (Scavenger), wife Elizabeth Sutherland 57, Wm Robertson 32, Alexr Shand 19. William R + Alexander Walker S are described as boarders (and Railway labourers), but we know from the 1851 + 1861 census that they're Eliz's sons. I think Alexr is also Andrew's son. Alexr would later change his name to AW Sutherland, and use this name when signing Eliz's death rego.

My g gran Elizabeth Massie MS Cowie's 1911 death rego gives her parents as Thomas Cowie, mason's labourer (reputed) + Elizabeth Shand afterwards wife of Andrew Sutherland, scavenger.

I think Robert + Jane Shand had 1 son (Alex) + 9 daurs, b abt 1800 thru 1823. The IGI has LDS member submissions for 5 daurs, but only 1 OPR extract (for the son, naturally). Aside from Alex + Eliz, I've only confirmed daur Helen Grieve MS Shand so far (the rego of Helen's 15/6/1887 death @ 60 High St Fraserburgh says she is the d/o Robert + Jane Shand MS England).

In view of your surname list I mention: I think Helen + William Grieve's grand son Alex b 8/12/1858 @ Crimond (s/o Alex + Ann Yule MS Grieve) marr Mary Jane Esson b 5/1/1864 @ Crimond (d/o Christian Esson). Helen's son-in-law Alex (and Alex's father) were @ Lothian, Crimond in 1851 (g son Alex is at home with his parents, next door to his gran in Fraserburgh in 1881). Mary Jane Esson is @ Longlegs, Crimond in 1881. I haven't found Longlegs on a map, but think it's less than 1km SW of Crimond village, which would place it halfway to Lothian.

Thanks for your observation - you weren't to know I had supplementary information, and it might have alerted me to my heading off on a wild goose chase.

Regards - Malcolm

Re: Shands of Aberdeenshire

Posted: 22 Jul 2007 4:35PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Shand, Dawson, Elder, Esson, Stewart, Cooper, Martin, Mattheson
Thanks Malcolm for the clarification about Elizabeth SHAND.

I believe I'm managed to push my search back one generation. John SHAND married Helen DAWSON 10 Apr 1784 Cluny. Their children all born Cluny are: Alexander (1785); George (1787) = Janet ESSON 1823; John (1790); and Barbara (1792) = Alexander ELDER 1820.

It appears that Helen DAWSON died Cluny 21 Apr 1794 & husband John SHAND died Cluny 2 Jan 1832 (does the MI indicate their ages?).

Descendants of Alexander ELDER include Janet (Jessie) who married George STEWART 1842 Cluny and their married children: Alexander Elder STEWART = Isabella; George STEWART = Margaret COOPER; James STEWART = Margaret MARTIN; Isobel Gray STEWART = William R. MATTHESON; and Charles STEWART = Catherine

Do these connections fit in anyone's tree?
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