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black dutch and english gypsies names who were deported

black dutch and english gypsies names who were deported

sue (View posts)
Posted: 25 Jun 2002 10:44PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Smiths/Boswell/Loveridge and all romany.
Just a general note having done quite allot of research on gypsies here in england for nearly ten years I have been browsing the queries on the list,and its funny how the same names are still popular over in usa.The black dutch were seperate but some were also gypsies ,and I know some boswells fall into this group as they are documented in england.There were quite a few boswells and smiths and
lee and coopers transported and the boswells as well as most gypsies allways used aan alias or two! the boswells used Lewis and Boss as well and the smiths also used Butler etc .They are all well known here and some are quite well documented if you have a specific date and name will check what records I have for you.

Re: black dutch and english gypsies names who were deported

Posted: 27 Jun 2002 8:24PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 21 Apr 2004 8:08PM GMT
Surnames: Barniro, Snelling, Olivars, Ribera, Haman, Green, Trevis, Mighill, Hope, King, Dowen, Gruald?, Arnaud (Arnold)?
Hello,

Would happen to know the surname Green that might have departed the UK to come to colonial America.

All input much appreciated!

Re: black dutch and english gypsies names who were deported

Markham&KING (View posts)
Posted: 28 Jun 2002 5:14AM GMT
Classification: Query
Interested in KING surname.Any information on Gypsies in Oxfordshire with this surname.

Re: black dutch and english gypsies names who were deported

Posted: 7 Jul 2002 1:48PM GMT
Classification: Query
Sue, Would you please check if you have anything on the surnames of Chapman, Studley or Norton in Yorkshire in the 1700s to early 1800s? Thank you,
Warren Lawrence

Re: black dutch and english gypsies names who were deported

sue (View posts)
Posted: 7 Jul 2002 1:57PM GMT
Classification: Query
I knoe that the greens were in somerset and dorset and married into a few well known english gypsies what names and dates are you looking for as there are loads of greens?
regards sue in england.

Re: black dutch and english gypsies names who were deported

sue (View posts)
Posted: 7 Jul 2002 2:00PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi warren I have heard of chapman in dorset and surrounding areas ,but studley and the other name I have not sorry .

Re: black dutch and english gypsies names who were deported

Tessa Crowley (View posts)
Posted: 4 Aug 2002 2:40AM GMT
Classification: Query
Sue

I wondered whether during your research in England you had noticed whether there was much Gypsy activity in the West Midlands - particularly Halesowen, Old Swynford, Pedmore etc. I have the names Wood, Lee, Saunders, Humphries and Brazil in my family from this region.

I realise that these are fairly common names in the UK, but while looking through the Romany and Traveller family history site, I couldn't help noticing how many of these cropped up as gypsy surnames. I have to say, there is no anecdotal evidence in my family that there were any gypsy ancestors, so it's probably unlikely. But I would be intrigued to know if you have records of gypsy activity in this area of the West Midlands.

Re: black dutch and english gypsies names who were deported

Carolyn (Parsons) Smedley (View posts)
Posted: 12 Oct 2002 1:10PM GMT
Classification: Query
I am trying to find information ont he Black dutch from the UK. The name associated with it ...is HORTON.

We were told the dark features came from the gypsies that were known to be Black Dutch..the maiden name of the ancestor was HORTON. Cannot find a lead yet. The grandmother's picture shows in 1883..Isabelle (Isibelle( Horton at about 15 years of age with "dress like" gypsy look....a terra on her head..long dangling ear rings, boots and jacket with lots of beading along the chest and neckline.

Would appreciate any imput you might have.

Re: black dutch and english gypsies names who were deported

Posted: 13 Oct 2002 1:58AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 21 Apr 2004 8:08PM GMT
Hi Sue,

I don't know why but I never received your reply. My Lewis Green appears now to have been born in VA ca 1724, so I'm on the look out for his parentage now before I try to trace it back.

The reason I caught your post is because someone just posted to me below and I believe it was meant for you.

I appreciate all your hard work. The reason for my research is that many Melungeons in the SE USA appear to have Siddhi genes in recent DNA tests. So much so that Siddhi progenitors appear to comprise 7% and probably more earlier on.

Thanks,
Donalyn

Re: black dutch and english gypsies names who were deported

Posted: 6 Nov 2002 3:36PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 14 Nov 2003 5:08PM GMT
Surnames: Botting
Hi

I know that my grandfather was a gypsy but left his clan to marry my grandmother. His name was Botting and the area he settled in was Ifield, Crawley. I believe there may possibly have been some German background but apart from that I don't know any more. Any help appreciated.

Sue
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