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Scottish Clan DNA study

Scottish Clan DNA study

Posted: 8 Feb 2002 11:06PM GMT
Classification: Query
Dear All:

There is an emerging interest in looking at the
possibility of a Project to evaluate the use
of DNA markers for ancestry studies in
the Scottish Clans and Septs. There are already
several Scottish Studies underway and several more
are forming. Their initial results are interesting.

The Scottish clans are very unique in that the
Clans have been identified and family relationships
tracked for hundreds of years. Some Clan family
have documented histories stretching back to
before 1000 AD ( and some back to 500AD) .

So this leads to some interesting possibilities
of identifying current clan family members and
determining if the Scottish ancestry line can
be identified. Some have cautioned: be careful
because you may find out that you are not who
you think you are :-). Non-paternity events
were as frequent then as they are now.

There is also an interesting mailing list here on
Rootsweb :

It turns out that A couple of factors make this
a very interesting study for the Clans to be
involved in.

A: The mtDNA passes down the mother to daughter
line. ( All of her children receive the MtDna
but only the daugher passes it on.) So all the
current children can provide mtDNA. The matriarch
of the family becomes clearly identified and her
ancestry traceable. Scottish history is one of the few in
the world where female lineage was often documented.
Iceland is another. Note that non paternity events
don't occur very often in this DNA since obviously
the mother knows her daughter is her offspring.

B: The Y DNA passes only from father to son. Then the
tests can see if there is a line of potential coordination
between the written documentation and the Y DNA

C: The Most Recent Common Ancestor ( MRCA) should
also give some interesting insights into the common
ancestor lines that they may share.

There are some other fine points of the DNA identification
and you can find out a lot more in the archives of the
mailing list.

Anybody that is really interested in participating
should please reply to me at the email address below
or reply to this message post.
Then just list only your interest, surname , contact info
and potential Clan association. I don't want to
clog up the archives with a lot of "me too" emails
and board posts. :-) Any comments or questions are
appropriate to post.

Someone will then contact you for further details and
how to proceed. Please note there will probably be
cost of some amount for the DNA test. I don't know
what that amount is for the test, but it is probably about
$250. My initial survey indicates that we will want
the 23 marker DNA test to get some definitive answers.
I expect to get more details next week.

We are also interested in obtaining Volunteers to
assist on the Project committee
in the various aspects of this massive project. We need
someone to select and co-ordinate the Labs, handle
the Project co-ordination with each Clan etc. The role
of Project Manager is also needed desperately.

Please feel free to pass this message along to other
mailing lists and boards that may have a high per centage
of Scottish Clan or Sept descendants.

Should be an interesting database over the months and
years :-)

Best Regards
John A Hansen
Clan Board and List Admin

Re: Scottish Clan DNA study

Mary Allison Yonan (View posts)
Posted: 4 Mar 2004 4:50AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Allison, Hamilton
Dear John,
I am the co-ordinator of the Allison/Ellison DNA Project with Family Tree DNA. Several participants trace their ancestry back to Lanarkshire, Scotland. There is a family tradition that says that Allisons were part of the Clan Mac Alister several hundred years ago but we lack "paper trail" evidence.

Some of the Allisons in the DNA project have DNA scores very similar to participants in the Hamilton DNA project. Those Hamilton men also have Lanarkshire roots. We know there were marriages between Allison men and Hamilton women in the 1600s and later in Lanarkshire, but that would not account for similar Y-chromosome DNA scores.

Does the ongoing Scottish Clans DNA project have members who are descendants of Clan MacAlister and Clan Hamilton? Is there a similarity in their DNA scores?

Is there a website that shows the results of the Scottish Clans DNA project? We are working on the development of an Allison/Ellison DNA Project Results webpage.

Thank you.

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