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Scottish Clan DNA Testing

Scottish Clan DNA Testing

Posted: 13 Feb 2002 1:38AM GMT
Classification: Query
Dear All:

There is an emerging interest in looking at the
possibility of a Project to evaluate the use
of DNA markers for ancestry studies in
the Scottish Clans and Septs. There are already
several Scottish Studies underway and several more
are forming. Their initial results are interesting.

The Scottish clans are very unique in that the
Clans have been identified and family relationships
tracked for hundreds of years. Some Clan family
have documented histories stretching back to
before 1000 AD ( and some back to 500AD) .

So this leads to some interesting possibilities
of identifying current clan family members and
determining if the Scottish ancestry line can
be identified. Some have cautioned: be careful
because you may find out that you are not who
you think you are :-). Non-paternity events
were as frequent then as they are now.

There is also an interesting mailing list here on
Rootsweb : Genealogy-DNA-L@rootsweb.com.

It turns out that A couple of factors make this
a very interesting study for the Clans to be
involved in.

A: The mtDNA passes down the mother to daughter
line. ( All of her children receive the MtDna
but only the daugher passes it on.) So all the
current children can provide mtDNA. The matriarch
of the family becomes clearly identified and her
ancestry traceable. Scottish history is one of the few in
the world where female lineage was often documented.
Iceland is another. Note that non paternity events
don't occur very often in this DNA since obviously
the mother knows her daughter is her offspring.

B: The Y DNA passes only from father to son. Then the
tests can see if there is a line of potential coordination
between the written documentation and the Y DNA
markers.

C: The Most Recent Common Ancestor ( MRCA) should
also give some interesting insights into the common
ancestor lines that they may share.

There are some other fine points of the DNA identification
and you can find out a lot more in the archives of the
mailing list.

Anybody that is really interested in participating
should please reply to me at the email address below
or reply to this message post.
Then just list only your interest, surname , contact info
and potential Clan association. I don't want to
clog up the archives with a lot of "me too" emails
and board posts. :-) Any comments or questions are
appropriate to post.

Someone will then contact you for further details and
how to proceed. Please note there will probably be
cost of some amount for the DNA test. I don't know
what that amount is for the test, but it is probably about
$250. My initial survey indicates that we will want
the 23 marker DNA test to get some definitive answers.
I expect to get more details next week.

We are also interested in obtaining Volunteers to
assist on the Project committee
in the various aspects of this massive project. We need
someone to select and co-ordinate the Labs, handle
the Project co-ordination with each Clan etc. The role
of Project Manager is also needed desperately.

Please feel free to pass this message along to other
mailing lists and boards that may have a high per centage
of Scottish Clan or Sept descendants.

Should be an interesting database over the months and
years :-)

Best Regards
John A Hansen
jahansen@qwest.net
Clan Board and List Admin

Re: Scottish Clan DNA Testing

betty romeo (View posts)
Posted: 2 Dec 2002 8:49PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Ross
Im very interested in the research of the Scottish Clans DNA testing. Im descended from Francis James Ross through my mother Helen Ruth Ross six generations. Scotland, Ireland, America, Florida.The line was passed straight through the Ross males, untill my mother,who would have gotten the gene from her father.
Please contact me if you think I would be a candidate
for testing.Betty Romeo

Re: Scottish Clan DNA Testing

Posted: 2 Dec 2002 9:04PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 1 Aug 2005 4:14PM GMT

Dear Betty:

You and your mother would carry the mtDNA genes
from her mother. This is one line.
Your Mother's father plus her brothers would carry
the Y DNA from the male side. Each of these can
provide certain DNA trails and results.

Best Regards
John A Hansen

Re: Scottish Clan DNA Testing

betty Romeo (View posts)
Posted: 3 Dec 2002 12:45AM GMT
Classification: Query
Dear John,my mothers line descended from her great great grandfather to her father all Ross's,but her mother{my grandmother} was not a Ross by blood , but by marriage to a Ross. Could the Ross genes pass from my grandfather to my mother to me? Could the my DNA tests show a link to the old Clan Ross? My mother and her family are deceased. I have two sons and a daughter.Thankyou for your previous reply.Betty

Re: Scottish Clan DNA Testing

Posted: 3 Dec 2002 1:34AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 1 Aug 2005 4:14PM GMT
Surnames: Ross

Dear Betty:

No the male Y DNA does not pass to the female
descendants. The mother mtDNA passes to all
of her children ( Male and Female) but only the
Female child can pass it along.

Since you are looking to trace the Male line ( Ross)
then you need to find male cousins. These could be
descendants of your mothers brothers or even your
grandfathers brothers etc etc. You just need to go back
until you find some male descendants. Then your claim
to the Clan Ross is done by association. ie this was my
xxxx and I'm related to them by yyy .

Hope this works for you.
Best Regard
John A Hansen
brother

Re: Scottish Clan DNA Testing

betty romeo (View posts)
Posted: 3 Dec 2002 2:42AM GMT
Classification: Query
Re: Ross clan

I do have a male cousin,that is decended from our mutual GGGgrandfather,he is a Ross.I understand he is also researching the Ross line,will try to locate him and send the information. Thankyou for your information,who knows we might be related too!
Betty

Re: Scottish Clan DNA Testing

Posted: 21 Nov 2004 12:01PM GMT
Classification: Query
I was born Denise Ross,
My father John Campbel Ross born- 1916. Australia
Grandfather Arthur Lancashire Ross born- 1892 Australia
G.Grandf. John Thomas Dickenson Ross born- 1856 ,Australia
G.G.Grandf. James L Ross we believe born - abt 1820-30? Scotland
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