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Johnston/Johnstone 19th century St. James area

Johnston/Johnstone 19th century St. James area

Posted: 25 Apr 2011 7:43PM GMT
Classification: Query
I am looking for any pictures, or family stories/specific information from the descendants of:

James Johnston (1810-1856), his first wife Mary Dunning, their son James Johnston (1848-1911) who married Sarah Atkinson.

James (Sr's) Second wife Mary Foulds (1830-1867), and their daughter Jemima Johnston who married Alexander Black.

I would very much like to learn more about these families: whoe they were as people, what they did, etc., etc.

James Johnston (Sr) was my 2nd great grandfather. I descend through his daughter Jemima.

Thanks,

Lynton (Bill) Stewart

Re: JOHNSTON/ JOHNSTONE 19th century St. James area

Posted: 26 Apr 2011 7:07PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: JOHNSTON, DUNNING, ATKINSON, FOULDS, BLACK
Hi Lynton,
Did the marriages occur in Canada ? Manitoba?

James JOHNSTON Sr. 1810-1856-m Mary DUNNING.
James JOHNSTON 1848-1911 m Sarah ATKINSON

James JOHNSTON Sr. 1810-1856 m Mary FOULDS 1830 -1867
Jemima JOHNSTON m Alexander BLACK

LAST NAME: BLACK GIVEN NAMES: JEMIMA JOHNSTON BLACK
DATE OF DEATH: 05/01/1916
AGE: 56
UNITS OF AGE: YEARS SEX: FEMALE
PLACE OF DEATH: ST JAMES
REGISTRATION NUMBER: 1916,006071
REGISTRATION DATE:

LAST NAME: JOHNSTON GIVEN NAMES: JAMES
DATE OF DEATH: 16/02/1911
AGE: 84
UNITS OF AGE: YEARS SEX: MALE
PLACE OF DEATH: SHELL RIVER
REGISTRATION NUMBER: 1911,004754
REGISTRATION DATE:

There are 5 Alexander BLACK deaths shown.

1901 Census:Manitoba/Provencher/#10/Franklin C-3, Page 8.
8 69 Black Alex H M Head M Aug 12 1851 49
9 69 Black Jemima F Wife M Sep 20 1858 42
10 69 Black Mary A F Daug S May 10 1879 21
11 69 Black John W M Son S Feb 20 1881 19
12 69 Black Eliz.E F Daug S Mar 18 1883 18
13 69 Black Jemima M F Daug S May 22 1885 14
14 69 Black Leslie A M Son S Apr 27 1887 13
15 69 Black Martha F Daug S Jul 23 1889 11
16 69 Black Joseph M Son S Oct 11 1891 9
17 69 Black Edith E F Daug S Jan 22 1895 6
18 69 Black Pearl F Daug S Sep 30 1900

1906 Census:
Manitoba/ Provencher /#7 02 - Page 2.
23 14 Black Mrs. A H Head F W 48
24 14 Black John W Son M S 25
25 14 Black May Dau F S 20
26 14 Black Leslie Son M S 18
27 14 Black Ethel Dau F S 16
28 14 Black Joseph Son M S 14
29 14 Black Elva Dau F S 9
30 14 Black Pearl Dau F S 5

1906 shows Jemima as a widow? - 1911 as married to Alex.
1911 Census:
Manitoba /Orovencher /29/Township 3 in Range 3 - Page 1
40 9 Black John William M Head S Feb 1881 30
41 9 Black Alexander Hillman M Father M Aug 1851 59
42 9 Black Jemima F Mother M Sep 1858 52
43 9 Black Elva Allice F Sister S Jan 1897 14
44 9 Black Pearl Verda F Sister S Oct 1900 10


http://mb.canadagenweb.org/
You are probably aware of the above - may prove helpful.

Off subject: are you still pursuing the Canadian Citizenship issue? Was thinking of you - when Randy Quaid and his wife came to Canada.She has Citizenship through her father.

Cheers Stella

Re: JOHNSTON/ JOHNSTONE 19th century St. James area

Posted: 26 Apr 2011 7:20PM GMT
Classification: Query
Stella:

I have all of the marriages, and other vital statistics information on the family, at least through the early 1900's. They were all in Manitoba (Rupertsland before 1870) until at least 1900, and most after that.

What I really want is to flesh out who they were as people. To learn about their lives, obtain copies of any pictures (if any are available), any family Bible pages, collect family stories, etc., etc.

NOBODY (and I do mean NOBODY) in the family knew that James Johnston and both of his wives were part Native. This was a deeply hidden secret. In fact, one cousin in Canada refuses to even respond to me, because I proved his mother was at least 1/4 Indian, and thereby I "ruined my memories of my mother".

I am now a Canadian citizen, retroactive to the day I lost my citizenship back in 1967. Legally, I have been a Canadian citizen since 1 January 1947 (and a British Subject before that date, as all Canadians were). I also get my citizenship from my father, who was born in Winnipeg in 1909, a grandson of Jemima Johnston and Alexander Black.

I remain a US citizen too of course. I was born in the US, and my mother was also born here (as were her parents, and so on). In fact, I am a VERY rare breed, a 3rd generation native Oregonian on my mothers side.

Good to hear from you again,

Lynton (Bill) Stewart

Re: JOHNSTON/ JOHNSTONE 19th century St. James area

Posted: 26 Apr 2011 7:27PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: BLACK, STEWART,REID,MARSHALL
GROOM'S LAST NAME: MARSHALL. GIVEN NAMES: JAMES ROBERT.
BRIDE'S LAST NAME: BLACK. GIVEN NAMES: PEARL VERDA .
DATE OF MARRIAGE: 19/03/1924
PLACE OF MARRIAGE: WPG
REGISTRATION NUMBER: 1924,011130
REGISTRATION DATE:

PERHAPS
GROOM'S LAST NAME: STEWART. GIVEN NAMES: JOHN HECTOR
BRIDE'S LAST NAME: BLACK GIVEN NAMES: ANNIE MAY
DATE OF MARRIAGE: 16/07/1905. PLACE OF MARRIAGE: FRANKLIN.
REGISTRATION NUMBER: 1905,001184
REGISTRATION DATE:

GROOM'S LAST NAME: BLACK. GIVEN NAMES: JOHN WILLIAM.
BRIDE'S LAST NAME: REID. GIVEN NAMES: ANNIE PEARL.
DATE OF MARRIAGE: 18/02/1914. PLACE OF MARRIAGE: FRANKLIN.
REGISTRATION NUMBER: 1914,080074
REGISTRATION DATE:

GROOM'S LAST NAME: STEWART. GIVEN NAMES: PETER NORMAN.
BRIDE'S LAST NAME: BLACK. GIVEN NAMES: ETHEL U.
DATE OF MARRIAGE: 24/06/1908
PLACE OF MARRIAGE: FRANKLIN
REGISTRATION NUMBER: 1908,002359
REGISTRATION DATE:

Cheers, Stella

Re: JOHNSTON/ JOHNSTONE 19th century St. James area

Posted: 26 Apr 2011 7:34PM GMT
Classification: Query
Happy to hear - that you were able to obtain citizenship. I often wondered.

Family secrets -We loose so much by rejecting a truth. a heritage. Hopefully one day - families will learn to appreicate their histories.

I wasn't certain what information you had. Thought I would send what I found - including the family connected surnames - which might attract attention of other family members, persons researching the same line - or even those who may want to help - may have some resources.
Always a good idea to show all names of Interest -
Cheers & Good Luck, Stella

Re: JOHNSTON/ JOHNSTONE 19th century St. James area

Posted: 26 Apr 2011 7:49PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 26 Apr 2011 7:50PM GMT
Peter Norman Stewart was my grandfather. Ethel Mildred Black was my paternal grandmother.(not Ethel U as it says on the Vital Stats web site. I have found a LOT of incorrect data there.)

John Hector Stewart was my grandfathers older brother. Annie May was my grandmothers older sister.

All of the Black's listed are siblings of my grandmother.

The only one that I do NOT know anything more about was Pearl Verda Black (Verda was a nickname. Her real name was Pearl Edna) and her husband James Robert Marshall. The only thing I know is that when her father died, she was living in New Jersey.

For some reason, every one of the girls in the Black family changed at least one of their names. My grandmother was born Ethel Martha, but went to Ethel Mildred. He oldest sister was born Mary Ann, but became Marie, and so on.

Thanks again.

Bill Stewart

Re: JOHNSTON/ JOHNSTONE 19th century St. James area

Posted: 26 Apr 2011 8:02PM GMT
Classification: Query
re errors at the site: these are transcript errors - wish we could see the originals [as in B.C.].Don't know who does the transcripts for the site

Ladies like to change their names - to something they prefer. or is in fashion at the time. -makes research difficult. Grandmothers name changed, don't think by choice -the worst was Clininka [not a known given name anywhere]should have been Julia.
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