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Ryan - Templemore Tipperary

Ryan - Templemore Tipperary

Posted: 18 Jan 2013 8:12AM GMT
Classification: Query
Looking for information on John Ryan - wife Julia O'Shannessy possibly married around 1820's and a son Thomas born 1830 who emigrated to Australia. Would like information on any other siblings. Believe John and Julia may have married in Roscrea.

Help much appreciated.

Sue

Re: Ryan - Templemore Tipperary

Posted: 18 Jan 2013 4:03PM GMT
Classification: Query
Templemore is in Tipperary North Riding. The RC parish records are on line from 1815-1877 for baptisms and 1827-1894 for marriages.
These records are available for a fee from a not for profit History Foundation.

You have both parents names which is an advantage as you can search for all the children's (siblings)names as a group for less than an individual search x how ever many siblings. Sort of a package. Most Irish genealogy is not free and also usually spotty with gaps.

Griffith Valuation is used now as a census substitute for 1850 Tipperary. www.askaboutireland.ie
Look for those in either Thurles or Roscrea Poor Law Unions.

There are 7 John Ryan's living in the Parish of Templemore.You will be able to count the number of houses to determine how many there really were, often people would occupy/rent/lease several parcels of land to make farming
viable.

I wasn't able to find the spelly O'Shannesy so tried
O'Shaunessy but came up with no record for the Parish

The spelling was present in Ireland as the 1841 UK Census which identifies Irish born person's shows 4 people with that spelling.

Also a Marriage license in 1832 in the Grant Book for Dublin also show a Francis O'Shanessy and spouse to be
Elizabeth Wait.

Many programs are spelling specific rather than being
forgiving on spellings which is necessary in Ireland.

The 1901 Census shows 2 spellings the same, one from Clare and 1 from Limerick. www.census.nationalarchives.ie
the are the only ones in Ireland by 1901.

www.genealogy.nationalarchives.ie gives the Tithe Applotments for 1820-1839. You might find something there.
There are 62 Ryan's in Parish Templemore.

www.familysearch.org was look for a death of Rose Ryan, there are many but too young these are just examples
you will need to search further.

Rose Ryan born 1837 died July-Sept 1917 (too early for an 1830 birth.

Irish Prison Records
1849:Rose Ryan born 1799 age 50 Clonmel, Tipperary for stealing turnips
18551: Rose Ryan born 1799 age 52 Clonmel, Tipperary for
stealing hay

The Irish telephone book shows 1000 Ryan's living in Tipperary but this includes those with a first name Ryan or a name beginning with R. There are Ryan's living in Thurles
and Roscrea and Clonmel. I think letter writing is out because of numbers as well as not knowing the actual location. (couldn't look up OShannesy as the telephone book is spelling specific)

Annette Code

Re: Ryan - Templemore Tipperary

Posted: 19 Jan 2013 7:41AM GMT
Classification: Query
Annette

Thank you for the information it is the best info I have yet received.

O'Shaughnessy is the spelling for the mothers maiden name on Thomas' marriage certificate but it is difficult to read so am really guessing.

Thanks again

SUe

Re: Ryan - Templemore Tipperary

Posted: 20 Jan 2013 2:18AM GMT
Classification: Query
No spelling for O'Sh..... but plain Shaughnessy shows in the Griffith Valuations in Tipperary N.with 9 occupants.

There are 3x Michael, John, James, Edward, Lawrence and Bridget. His father's name will show in their children if not named after him its easier to spot. Usually 1st. son his father, 2nd. son her father.
www.askaboutireland.ie

Spellings from the 1800's in Ireland can differ widely another reason that makes it hard to find people. Often the Irish dropped the 0' as they were no so easily identified as Irish when under the British occupation and put it back after leaving.

Good luck. Annette

Re: Ryan - Templemore Tipperary

Posted: 20 Jan 2013 7:39PM GMT
Classification: Query
The Templemore R.C. parish records are now available online at the paysite www.rootsireland.ie They work on a credit system and you can search the database for free when you have registered but to view any record costs about 4-5 euros.
annclare

Re: Ryan - Templemore Tipperary

Posted: 21 Jan 2013 12:59AM GMT
Classification: Query
Annclare

Thanks for the information will try

Sue
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