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Agnes Stewart, b.St.Cuthberts, Edinburgh, 1821

Agnes Stewart, b.St.Cuthberts, Edinburgh, 1821

Posted: 15 Oct 2012 2:38PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 15 Oct 2012 4:08PM GMT
Surnames: Stewart Whitton
I will be honest and say I have posted on this individual before to no avail but this time I am looking for ideas as to why she seems not to appear on the 1841 or 1851 census (at least not in an obvious manner).
Agnes Stewart, b.St.Cuthberts, Edinburgh, 1821. Christened in Athelstaneford 22/05/1822. Parents James Stewart and Annie Gordon resident in the Schoolhouse at Drem, East Lothian on 1841/51 census until they retire to Ormiston in 1850's. James dies in 1860 and widow dies 1873 in Ormiston.
Before James dies his daughter Agnes the oldest of 8 siblings has had 3 illegitimate children and died herself on 16/04/1859 in Ormiston. The three children always show with her parents on census 51/61/71. The children John 1849, James 1852 and Janet 1855 all born in Drem at Schoolhouse. She comes home for all the births/death to her parents but never shows on a census, the births are closely spread around the 1851 census but no sign of her. The first son has a William Whitton a mason named as the father the other two blank. The birth of her daughter Janet was not registered until six months after her birth and by her mother so she was around or not in a hurry to leave.
More difficult to trace because she was born in Edinburgh and not Drem but have tried both, she never shows on any record as married/wife off etc., A William Whitton is not near an Agnes Stewart in East Lothian or any other place I can find. Angus area is only place with any amount of Whittons but even then not so many.
Cant be Canada/America/Australia etc as she wouldnt have come home three times from there.
The local church records dont even mention her but do chastise one of her sisters (Janet) who had an illegitimate child to a man who was killed in an accident just after she got pregnant so they werent slow to act.
As you know the longer you stare at something sometimes the less you see, hoping some people on here may have some experience of tracing people who do not seem to appear on the relevant census and can suggest some reasons as to why I cant find her. (15 years trying) I admit the born in Edinburgh is a bit of a problem.

Re: Agnes Stewart, b.St.Cuthberts, Edinburgh, 1821

Posted: 20 Oct 2012 1:28PM GMT
Classification: Query
found this on FREECEN, Haddington is just few miles from Drem etc and easily reached if pregnant and going home to have the bairn.

Also found bit about the family on familysearch.org that someone has entered. it might have been yourself that's done that.https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/39QK-KMD

1841 census
Piece: SCT1841/709 Place: Haddington -East Lothian Enumeration District: 4
Civil Parish: Haddington-Landward Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 0 Page: 9
Address: Sommerfield

Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
REID Hellen F 55 Independent East Lothian
REID Jane F 25 Independent East Lothian
REID Margaret F 25 Independent East Lothian
REID James M 20 Saddler East Lothian
STEWART Agnes F 15 Female Servant Outside Census County (1841)

Familysearch

name: Agnes /Stewart/
gender: Female
birth: 1821
St Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
baptism: 22 May 1822
Athelstaneford
death: 16 April 1859
Ormiston, Scotland


Parents
father: James /Stewart/
mother: Annie /Gordon/

Marriages (1)
spouse: William (Disowned) /Whitton/
Show children (3)

child 1: James /Stewart/
gender: Male
BIRTH 1852
Drem, East Lothian, Scotland
DEATH 4 April 1925
Ford Mills, Northumberland, England (Glendale)

child 2: John Muir /Stewart/
gender: Male
BIRTH 1849
Drem, East Lothian, Scotland, Midlothian
DEATH 25 May 1895
13 Murdoch Terrace, Edinburgh

child 3: Janet /Stewart/
gender: Female
BIRTH 29 July 1855
Drem, Scotland, East Lothian
DEATH 1888
6 Gayfield Street, Glasgow, Scotland


Submission
submission date: 20 Oct 2012
submission id: MMC8-3PH
person count: 1,235

Notes
■22/05/1822 is DOB listed in Scotlands people, suspect is baptism.
Bainfield Terrace is in St. Cuthberts.

Buried in graveyard for Ormiston (West Byres/old yard) as are her parents, both unmarked.

Ann or Nancy are suggested as nicknames.

Burial ServicesAddress: Landscape and Countryside, East Lothian Council, Block C Brewery Park, Haddington, EH41 3HA.

Tel: 01620 827430 (useless)

name: William (Disowned) /Whitton/
gender: Male
birth: 1820
Scotland/England


Marriages (1)
spouse: Agnes /Stewart/
Show children (3)

child 1: Janet /Stewart/
gender: Female
BIRTH 29 July 1855
Drem, Scotland, East Lothian
DEATH 1888
6 Gayfield Street, Glasgow, Scotland

child 2: John Muir /Stewart/
gender: Male
BIRTH 1849
Drem, East Lothian, Scotland, Midlothian
DEATH 25 May 1895
13 Murdoch Terrace, Edinburgh

child 3: James /Stewart/
gender: Male
BIRTH 1852
Drem, East Lothian, Scotland
DEATH 4 April 1925
Ford Mills, Northumberland, England (Glendale)


Submission
submission date: 20 Oct 2012
submission id: MMC8-3PH
person count: 1,235

Notes
■Cad and a bounder was William Whitton, no record of him marrying Agnes who had three children. His son John Muir had his surname changed (1873) from Whitton to Stewart by court order. Obviously some sort of family problem. John Muir lived with his grandparents in Drem and Ormiston, East Lothian as a boy/youth as did James.
Check the 71 census for him, could be he died just after leaving John out of will and causing bitterness to provoke change of name back to Stewart.

Only one who nearly fits is in Leslie, Fife in 1870. Dont think so.

There is a William Whitton (wills and probate) who dies in 1875 and had of late been an inmate at Dundee lunitic asylum.


Re: Agnes Stewart, b.St.Cuthberts, Edinburgh, 1821

Posted: 20 Oct 2012 1:58PM GMT
Classification: Query
if you search on scotlandspeople site there are 2 William Wightons in the Midlothian/east lothian area. both would fit age wise. There's also a Robert Whiton age 21 staying in Ormiston with his big sister and their mother.

You'll probably never know what happened there

good luck

Re: Agnes Stewart, b.St.Cuthberts, Edinburgh, 1821

Posted: 20 Oct 2012 4:44PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thanks June, the Agnes Stewart staying with the Reids is interesting. A bit young at 15 when she should be 20 but her younger sister Alice b.1842 was given the middle name Reid which I have never been able to account for so will look into that one. Also was not aware of the Wighton men on the census.
Alan.
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