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Schubeck family name butchering was Von Schuboeck

Schubeck family name butchering was Von Schuboeck

Posted: 7 Sep 2008 11:14PM GMT
Classification: Query
I have no idea why the Von was dropped when they came over to the States... but here is informtaion I found to our Schubeck/ Lowther lineage.


Technically The have misspelled our name so badly throughout the records... it is a difficult find... even in the records. My great - great grandfather was from the Autrian -Hungarian Monarchy Charles Leopold Von Schuboeck (with umlauts of course) who came over to Westpoint to train the soldiers for both sides of the Civil war. He fled because of the fall of the empire and his son also served in the civil war. They stripped our name of the title when the other family members came over and changed the spelling. The census people changed the spelling as it sounded... so I have found our name five different ways thus far. I would be very curious if anyone has any other information....

Also... The Lowther family is tied to ours as well. I have history traced back to the Vikings.

Here is a thread on the family reunions in Northumbria

You know David Low was actually the Lowther family Reunion tour director. I have the contact information is you would like to go as I have many family member that are interested.. I know Sarah Lowther is (DOB Jan. 4) is godchild to Her Majesty the Queen. I have a geneology chart that ties our connections and the Lowthers in our family to the Vikings(WODEN King OF Wessex and "Alfread the Unready"....The "Yellow" Earl as they called him, Lady Godiva,Old King Cole, Alexander the Great, Edward III (also a distinct tie in to the Cliffords) The Feast at Broughms castle (Wm Wordsworth) There is also another Wordsworth poem that he specifically worte when he was visiting the Lowther Castle Grounds. (Just called Lowther). Very fascinating history. They have activities at the Driving trails at Lowther usually in August. Hugh Clayton Lowther is now the 8th Earl of Lonsdale. When the Schubecks came over they dropped the Von and changed the spelling of the name. Please let me know if I can help.......
SIncerely,
The Schubeck family

Re: Schubeck family name butchering was Von Schuboeck

Posted: 30 Jan 2010 5:00AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Schubeck came from von Schönburg changed in 1918 monarchy law
Schubeck line from the Monarchy came from the von Schönburg line. A law was passed in 1918 to strip nobles of their titles and change the spelling of their name. When the monarchy fell; most likely reasoning for the name changes were for protection and required to become a new US citizen. Charles Leopold was Leopold von Schönburg. The nobles that fled to America were in danger and did leave families behind.This is why you see variations. People spelled it as they could say it back then. Just as when some of the Von Habsburgs came over to the US the title was dropped and the spelling of their name changed. Some are Von Hapsburg, though the true name is Von Habsburg with their rightful titles. The law of 1918 therefore, explains a lot. Many noble names were changed several times, and many of the new America citizens were required to do so. A born name is not complete as all names and titles were given at a child's christening/baptism by customary law.
I am glad to forward you any documents you may need.

Re: Schubeck family name butchering was Von Schuboeck

Posted: 30 Jan 2010 5:04AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Schubeck,von Schönburg
Classification: Query
Surnames: Schubeck came from von Schönburg changed in 1918 monarchy law
Schubeck line from the Monarchy came from the von Schönburg line. A law was passed in 1918 to strip nobles of their titles and change the spelling of their name. When the monarchy fell; most likely reasoning for the name changes were for protection and required to become a new US citizen. Charles Leopold was Leopold von Schönburg. The nobles that fled to America were in danger and did leave families behind.This is why you see variations. People spelled it as they could say it back then. Just as when some of the Von Habsburgs came over to the US the title was dropped and the spelling of their name changed. Some are Von Hapsburg, and simply just Hapsburg, though the true name is Von Habsburg with their rightful titles. The law of 1918 therefore, explains a lot. Many noble names were changed several times, and many of the new America citizens were required to do so. A born name is not complete as all names and titles were given at a child's christening/baptism by customary law.
I am glad to forward you any documents you may need.
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